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octobob , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

Becomes king

Fucking dies

Lmaooo

Pyr_Pressure ,

And least he got to be king first :P

I haven’t seen any new coins yet with his face on it. It may be the shortest run of coins with a new face. I’ve had the same face on my coins for my entire life, these will be the first with a new one.

Flax_vert ,

Shortest run was probably Edward VIII. My dad found a coin with Charles’s face on it. I also bought a few commemoratives. I think it’ll probably start appearing on £1 coins soon as they are the newest

hakunawazo ,
driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

English taxpayers paying for another coronation ceremony be like: 🥶*

  • can’t pay to heat their house.
Flax_vert ,

I mean, it did bring more money into the economy than it took out of it, same with Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral, so we could profit off of this

Blackmist ,

Don’t knock it, we get a day off when they die and a day off when we get a new one.

Sometimes we get a day off when they’ve been on the throne for a set number of years.

So for that reason I’d like to keep them.

Give us two extra bank holidays a year, and you can King Ralph all these motherfuckers.

Grimy , to worldnews in King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says

So is it the pedo next in line?

Lath ,

I think it's primogeniture monarchy, so it's from parent to child. Next in line is Charles' firstborn.

Chainweasel ,

No, he’s completely out of the running unless all of King Charles children and grandchildren mysteriously die

souma ,

Don’t give the pedo any ideas

QuentinCallaghan , to technology in EU takes action against Elon Musk's X over disinformation
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When some people have argued that there is no use for EU, I have used its handling of technology giants as a counter-argument.

frog ,

It does increasingly feel like the EU is the only institution that has any willingness to stand up to big tech.

QuentinCallaghan ,
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Another thing I point out is “look no further than the bottom of your phone” to bring up how EU forced phone manufacturers to use USB-C.

thejml ,

Good thing that didn’t happen during USB Micro. That was one of if not the worst connector invented.

admiralteal ,

A shame the writers of the law didn't have good enough knowledge of the underlying technology to mandate not just the USB C connector, but specific USB C standards. The fact that USB C cables are very much "you can't even tell what it does without plugging it in" is a bit of a nightmare.

But on the other hand, there's always changes for further revisions in the future.

TheGreenGolem ,

And fortunately they made the law future proof. It doesn’t say that “hey, you should use USB-C” but it says “hey, you should use the connector mentioned in Appendix H which is defined by committee R”. That way they don’t need to start over the whole bureaucratic process the pass the law, just ask a committee to reevaluate the tech and they change the appendix. It can be USB-D from tomorrow.

jmp242 ,

Honestly I never had a problem with MicroUSB and haven’t really seen a benefit to USB-C for basic charging of devices. I guess some might charge faster, but USB-C is so screwed up that you need a magic mix of cable, charger and device to get more than baseline anyway, it works the same as MicroUSB for me.

thejml ,

I’ve had and seen many a device get ruined when the fragile connector breaks off. Combined with the slower charging, lower speed transfer, one way design that isn’t as obvious, etc.

And yes, I’d rather have lightning over usb-c as at least the lightning cables have consistent standards.

_lilith , to news in Home near Washington DC explodes as police surround armed suspect
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Video Here

fleabomber ,
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Holy cow.

girlfreddy OP ,
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Thanks. :)

I couldn’t get a link to work for some reason.

Zipitydew ,

I’m impressed. Was expecting it to be sensationalized title.

That whole house is ready to be scooped into a dumpster.

someguy3 ,

From the headline I expected the guy had it rigged, this certainly confirms it. I expected more out than up though it’s hard to see.

girlfreddy OP , (edited )
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From what he posted on LinkedIn I doubt he’d have the expertise to rig anything.

More likely he punctured his gas main.

Confused_Emus ,

A news clip I saw said the dumb ass was firing off a flare gun inside the house. I’m definitely with you in thinking he didn’t intend for that to happen.

someguy3 , (edited )

You’d have build up gas for an entire day to get an explosion like that. It’s either rigged or he had a crazy amount of explosives that he accidentally set off.

Ilovethebomb ,

If anything, that’s a serious understatement.

Treczoks ,

It may be scooped into a dumpster after forensics have turned over each and every piece several times.

Lophostemon , to mildlyinteresting in Dog walker films winds lifting forest floor during Storm Babet in Scotland

It’s the trees root plates. Not really a safe thing to be around. Not very responsible to let doggo be endangered.

lazynooblet ,
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I would be worried the dog would go underneath and get crushed/trapped

Lophostemon ,

Yes indeed.

Silverseren , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

Took longer than I expected. Hopefully the same thing happens to Putin next.

rdri ,

One thing that can’t happen to Putin is getting assassinated by Putin.

rambling_lunatic ,

Remember the Onion?

Silverseren ,

If anyone can manage to assassinate himself, it's Putin. I believe in him!

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX ,
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The chemicals in his brain will assassinate him.

kartonrealista ,
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PipedLinkBot ,

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=vm1U5E44W90

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

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afraid_of_zombies , to world in Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia

Thoughts and prayers

Jungl1st , to technology in Netflix password crackdown has actually caused a growth in Subscriptions
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I canceled when the news broke about shared accounts. Haven’t missed it at all. Arrrr!

ggq , to technology in Netflix password crackdown has actually caused a growth in Subscriptions

I had a family account, but I stopped using it since going abroad to uni once they cracked down. The amount of content is just at the point where I don't see any value to subscribing.
Generally though, exactly what killed cable TV is killing my use of Netflix and other services. All the interesting stuff is now so spread out on so many different services, it's just no longer worth it.
Dealing with N different subscriptions and different websites, is too much BS to deal with AND pay for, so I'm just going to run my own server.

effingjoe ,
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It is trivial to sign up for a service when you want to watch something, and then cancel it when you don't, until there's something else you want to watch on the service. That is the benefit over cable.

Most people still treat it like a cable subscription: always on, even if they're not watching it.

svahnen ,

That’s a good thought and would probably work if I lived alone and only watched one thing at a time.

But I would say it depends on your use case and the size of your household. We are 4 ppl in my family that watch different content on the same TV at different times of the day. We have Netflix (the wife’s show is here), Disney (kids), HBO (me), Viaplay (family movies in my native language when we all watch together). I have been sharing thease accounts with my brothers family but we are about to move to Plex, I would rather buy DVD or digital releases and host it myself then use all thease subscriptions.

If they would price it better, could work together and all be used in the same interface on my tv then maybe I would be willing to go back.

effingjoe ,
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I have spent thousands of dollars over the years on my Plex setup. I'd caution against the assumption that switching to Plex and hosting your media is going to be cheaper in the short run, or maybe even the long run, than paying for streaming services. Depending on your use case you may even need to pay for Plexpass. (Hardware encoding, iirc, is locked behind their Plexpass subscription.) And factor in the inevitable troubleshooting you'll have to do when something doesn't work for your brother's family.

Do the math for yourself, is all I'm saying. It's not automatically the better solution.

svahnen ,

Those are all good points and I’m happy you replied, as it will probably help other who read this 😊

However I already have a Plex server for my older media (VHS 😅 tapes) that I have converted to digital, that’s hosted on my NAS, and lifetime Plex pass. I have been meaning to look into open source replacements but many older smart tvs only have Plex 🤷

svahnen ,

I should probably have mentioned as well that the inconvenience of having multiple apps are a bigger hurdle for my family then the cost, as that pushes us towards things like Plex where the kids could find everything in one app

dumbass , to nottheonion in A little girl said monsters were in her bedroom. It was 60,000 bees
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Legend ,

The fuckidy fuck is happening there

samus12345 ,
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Altofaltception , to news in Haiti: US guns pour into Port-au-Prince, fuelling surge in violence

Haiti made the wrong choice of demanding freedom from slavery before European powers were ready to adapt to life without human chattel. We’ve never let them forget that.

sugarfree ,
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They “demanded freedom from slavery”, and then shortly afterwards engaged in slave raids in what is today the Dominican Republic.

Altofaltception ,

That’s literally the opposite of what happened.

Once Haiti declared independence, they invaded Santo Domingo, effectively ending Spanish occupation of that part of the island. Slavery ended up being abolished by default once the Spanish were removed in 1822.

ours ,

They also invaded SD because they were afraid Spain would invade them first.

JimboDHimbo ,

Fuck the European powers of old and fuck slavery. I wish that all my ancestors killed their masters tbh.

How can you say it’s the wrong choice for anyone to try to defeat an oppressive evil such as slavery?

Altofaltception ,

How can you say it’s the wrong choice for anyone to try to defeat an oppressive evil such as slavery?

It was a wrong choice from the perspective of their masters.

Sylvartas ,

Well, Haiti did kill most of their masters when they rebelled against them. (Which I honestly can understand given the especially awful brand of slavery that was going on there)

Also, while France is to blame for the insane “reparations” that have been forced upon Haiti, they ultimately sold their debt to some wall street banks, who pressured the US government to invade Haiti (on more than one occasion iirc) to force them to take loans with high interest rates in order to repay the debt (and create more).

When I learned about that I couldn’t wrap my head around the fact that forgiving the debt was apparently never an option for anyone involved. So, fuck the banks and also fuck the USA.

Viking_Hippie , to nottheonion in YouTuber Trevor Jacob jailed after crashing plane for views

Who amongst us haven’t done the same, be honest now?

None of us have? Alrighty then!

StorminNorman ,

I have. In various games. The annoying thing about this to me is that they didn’t even hang around to watch the pretty fireball (cos, you know, “gravity”). That’s like 95% of the reason for doing it.

Edit: actually, I bet there wasn’t even a fireball cos real life physics aren’t the same as game physics.

Viking_Hippie ,

Yeah, reality is pretty mid tbh. Ridiculously unbalanced too.

The “Billionaire” and “Idiot Zealot” classes really need to be nerfed yesterday!

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
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I just want the ability to respec I put my points into idiot zealot all wrong and now I fart bubbles all day

QuinceDaPence ,

There was no fireball, he probably had just a small amount of fuel and shut off the valves before bailing, but we don't know because he had the plane helilifted out and destroyed, destroying the evidence. In his video he went to the plane after to get his gopros, and it's just kinda smushed. If there was a fireball it probably would have started a wildfire, which is part of the reason he's going to jail.

ours ,

Also these kinds of planes tend to keep more or less stable when not given input due to their design. So no dramatic nosedive, probably just steadily dropped altitude as it lost speed.

QuinceDaPence ,

Some other pilot pointed out it looks like he fucked the trim all up before jumping out so it would spiral

FishFace , to technology in BBC: The woman who successfully sued the website that matched her with a paedophile explains how she forced the site to close down. 'Alice', or A.M. as she was known in court says she feels "vindic...

Next year the city park will be forced to close down after the council was sued for by a woman who was allowed to meet a paedophile in it as a child.

Children need to be taught how to not get abused by strangers offline and online. If they aren’t, it’s not the fault of the place that allowed them to meet. When I was a child I was using the internet to talk to adults and had a great time. (The adults who had to deal with my crappy attitude before I learnt some netiquette probably had a less great time…)

biHeart ,

Taught not to get abused? I think you mean “stranger danger” shit, which is taught but the way you phrased that is disturbing. It’s not a child’s job to “not get abused by ‘anyone’”. And all places in general should probably keep an eye on who comes in and out, except for niche/specialized services like vpns, warez, etc. That’s just called being responsible.

Parks and other ‘loose’ non-stores though shouldn’t be held responsible, I agree.

FishFace ,

I just wanted a phrase which encompassed “don’t go home with strangers” and “don’t send strangers photos of yourself” and all other things which either are, or lead to, abuse.

thejml ,

A very large percentage of child abuse, kidnapping and pedo issues involve the child’s own family. “Stranger Danger” isn’t the solution.

HauntedCupcake ,

In the very specific set of examples in the above posts, it’s basically only “Stranger Danger”. It’s literally about Omegle.

But I do very much agree with your point when talking in a wider context

FishFace ,

That doesn’t have any bearing on a comparison between two different types of “stranger danger”.

cannibalia ,

You kinda sound like the bad guy in monsters inc

FishFace ,

It’s been a long time since I watched it so you’ll have to enlighten me.

Nurse_Robot ,

That’s a deeply creepy take

Don’t blame the pedophiles, blame the children!

FishFace ,

Uh, since when is it the children’s fault if they aren’t taught something? I’m blaming the parents!

phx ,

You can still blame the pedophiles while also teaching kids safe internet etiquette so that they don’t fall prey to one.

Teaching somebody how to avoid being a victim in addition to punishing offenders is a good take

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  • FishFace ,

    Why does Omegle being privately owned matter? Does a city council have less responsibility than a private business to prevent harm? Do your parks have security patrolling them? I’ve never seen that. Was Omegle “full” of perverts, or were there are a handful in comparison to the many ordinary users, but our attention naturally focuses on the aberrant cases?

    “club” implies membership, which Omegle didn’t have, which is the whole issue, and why I went with a park which anyone can enter without registering, not a club.

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  • FishFace ,

    Hmm yes, making sure that parents (or someone else) knows what children are doing online is a good idea…

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  • FishFace ,

    You drew a distinction between a park and children doing stuff online (on certain websites) by saying that in a park, everyone can see everyone else (which is not true - there are usually secluded spots in parks). This is no distinction at all if a child’s parents knows what they are doing online.

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  • FishFace ,

    You’re still replying, mate.

    That, in spite of the fact that you seem to have run out of arguments? So replying without contributing… and you’re calling me obsessed. k!

    Haha ,

    There are days like these where I’m glad it’s not morons like you who run things because the world would genuinely be an even shittier place with takes like these. Mental gymnastics to blaming children for being abused.

    FishFace ,

    Children need to be taught

    That does not place the blame on the children.

    ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
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    You forget that children can be easily manipulated as their brains are literally not capable of proper judgement in most situations

    FishFace ,

    Mm, I guess that’s why the park needs to be shut/we can never let children go there unattended.

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  • FishFace ,

    You haven’t said why it matters it was privately run.

    It matters that it had private rooms, but there tend to be private areas in public spaces like parks too. The analogy actually works much better if the kid’s computer is in a public place and they don’t have unrestricted access to the internet through a phone - obviously in either case it’s harder to abuse someone in secret if you have to take the initial risk of meeting somewhere you could be spotted, and only then move it private.

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  • FishFace ,

    He did take action to stop it - he aided in multiple prosecutions. What he didn’t do was turn the site into something completely different, with mandatory registration.

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  • FishFace ,

    How does that contradict what I said, or else what point are you trying to make?

    Even though you’re quite sure the site owner needed to do more to stop paedophiles, you haven’t said what. Is what you think he should have done to have sacrificed anonymity?

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    Statement by Leif K-Brooks:

    Omegle’s moderation even had a positive impact beyond the site. Omegle worked with law enforcement agencies, and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, to help put evildoers in prison where they belong. There are “people” rotting behind bars right now thanks in part to evidence that Omegle proactively collected against them, and tipped the authorities off to.

    Example article: guelphmercury.com/…/article_7b1fca76-cef1-56e5-a9…

    The NCMEC received information from Omegle about the activities of a paedophile and it led to their conviction.

    But your quote is not the opposite of my claim. It says that “the site has been mentioned in more than 50 cases against paedophiles.” How many of those cases included evidence collected and submitted by Omegle?

    Do please answer my question:

    Even though you’re quite sure the site owner needed to do more to stop paedophiles, you haven’t said what. Is what you think he should have done to have sacrificed anonymity?

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  • FishFace ,

    FWIW, LWD’s ability to click “reply” outran his ability fill those replies with meaningful words, and instead of admitting they can’t back up their opinion they’re resorting to insults and insinuation.

    darq , to world in Japan's top court says trans sterilisation requirement unconstitutional - BBC News
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    It strikes me as wild but so much of the opposition towards LGBT rights in Japan is, effectively, a paperwork issue. Backed by bigotry, but fronted by paperwork.

    The koseki system, or family registry system, basically cannot handle same-sex couples or parents. The system only allows for one male partner and one female partner, one male parent and one female parent. So Japan can't register same-sex marriages or parents.

    But this might also be why sterilisation is required for trans people. Because the requirement for recognition of gender isn't actually just to be sterilised. The requirements are to be unmarried, have no children, and be permanently sterile. Because anything less than that could lead to a system where a marriage involves two same-sex partners, or a child has two same-sex parents. Which is impossible using the current paperwork, so it is forbidden.

    So trans people have to be sterilised, and if they have children already, they can never be recognised by the current system. Because bureaucracy.

    superguy ,

    Sounds like they need to update their system.

    Maybe it’s just me, but in the digital age I don’t think there’s an excuse for systems like this to be too difficult to change. Heck, if you designed it like an idiot, then you deserve to pay the costs to fix it.

    I know Japan lives in the stone age when it comes to governing, but that’s simply not an excuse. Do better. Take money from your ruling class to fix these issues.

    It’s do-able. Let’s get off our fucking hands and do it.

    darq ,
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    Sounds like they need to update their system.

    Oh definitely. Desperately.

    Maybe it’s just me, but in the digital age I don’t think there’s an excuse for systems like this to be too difficult to change. Heck, if you designed it like an idiot, then you deserve to pay the costs to fix it.

    Thing is. I don't even think it would be that difficult to change. It's not like it's the first time we've ever had newer versions of forms. And the change isn't even drastic, just de-gender the terms. Partner 1 and Partner 2, Parent 1 and Parent 2.

    One of the simple benefits of the paper-based way Japan tends to favour is that it can be updated and overriden by the person performing the process.

    DarkenLM ,

    Boy, thank God that you don't have to deal with the draconian legacy codebases that governments have. There's a reason no sane engineer wants to get even near them, and it's because any change, no matter how small it is, completely breaks the entire system and no-one knows how.

    Sure, a new system could be developed from the side, but implies getting engineers in a higher level than interns and governments don't have good reasons to hire them. Their broken system gives them the perfect excuse for their bullshittery.

    Excrubulent ,
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    Bureaucracy does tend to be inherently conservative, because it has to condense people into neat and tidy boxes in order to make them legible to an authority, so it will only allow formally defined categories, which will always lag behind culture. It also reduces people to numbers and strips them of their identities, which is another win for conservatism.

    So it’s a great excuse for conservatives, because they can just say, “computer says no” and deny you healthcare.

    prole ,

    Bureaucracy is a necessary evil in a modern society. Perhaps if you’re using a traditional definition of “conservative,” that could be accurate in that it (purposefully) slows things down to allow the administrative state (just a bunch of regular people working in their field of expertise) to review permits, etc.

    But if we’re going by the current definition as used by the Republican party? Absolutely fucking not. These people are actively and openly working to literally “dismantle the administrative state.” That is their stated goal.

    Without bureaucracy, society would be untenable.

    Excrubulent , (edited )
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    No, they’re not doing that, that’s a propagandistic lie. Outlawing abortion and trans people is a massive increase in the powers and scope of the state, not to mention how much they want to increase the powers of the police in the largest carceral system in history.

    And bureaucracy exists primarily to address the legibility problem that states have in condensing millions of people’s lives down to policies that can be enacted by a central ruling party. It doesn’t exist to serve the people or the society, but the state which is the enemy of the people.

    Perhaps that state is what you think is necessary for a “modern society”, but I assure it’s quite old and has a long history from which to demonstrate that it acts primarily to oppress.

    prole , (edited )

    It is literally their stated goal to “dismantle the administrative state.” Please inform yourself:

    apnews.com/…/election-2024-conservatives-trump-he…

    abcnews.go.com/Politics/…/story?id=103160902

    And please don’t just skip over those articles, that “Project 2025” is absolutely terrifying (and should surprise no one who’s been paying attention). I would even recommend reading Project 2025 yourself.

    Yes, they want authoritarian rule. And they are explicitly telling us exactly what they’re going to do once they have it. Their persecution of LGBTQ+ people, and p.o.c. is a completely separate thing. One thing about fascism is that it’s never consistent. It’s a feature. They will say whatever they need to say to do what they want to do and get what they want to get.

    With all due respect, as someone with a career that often works hand in hand with bureaucracy in my day to day working life, you are completely uninformed about the subject. Of course it can sometimes lead to unnecessary red tape, but the alternative would be absolute chaos, with a complete lack of public health and safety, and zero accountability when people literally die because someone thought we didn’t need the FDA anymore.

    I’m not going to get into a big argument about bureaucracy, but so many people are so ill informed about why it is so important, and that’s frustrating.

    Edit: No response? Nothing? Huh, what a surprise.

    Excrubulent ,
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    Edit: No response? Nothing? Huh, what a surprise.

    People have lives, asshole. I just moved my entire house twice in the last two weeks, but I’m so sorry I didn’t drop fucking everything to answer you. I can answer what you’ve said, but after that bullshit you’d have to tell me you’re actually interested in what I have to say, otherwise I won’t bother.

    prole ,

    Truly: don’t bother.

    You should still inform yourself about the (stated) goals of the modern conservative movement in the US.

    Excrubulent ,
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    Okay, so it sounds like you’re saying you’re not curious about what I have to say because you have judged me too ignorant to have anything worth saying.

    Of course how you arrive at this position without being curious about what I think in the first place is a bit of a mystery.

    prole ,

    I’m saying this conversation has been over for like a week, I have no interest in continuing dead threads for some waste of time back and forth that will accomplish literally nothing. Have a nice day.

    Excrubulent ,
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    Okay, so… the fact I took a week to reply is what made you lose interest? That’s not very convincing.

    Or is it the fact you believe it will accomplish “literally nothing”? Are you convinced it will achieve nothing because you lack the curiosity that would be prerequisite to you learning something? I’m afraid that’s circular.

    prole ,

    To be honest, I just don’t feel like spending any additional time and energy having a deeply depressing conversation I’ve had countless times already. I just don’t want to talk about the granular specifics of how conservatives are dismantling our democracy right now. Nothing personal.

    Excrubulent ,
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    So no interest? Nothing? Huh, what a surprise.

    Well anyway, you don’t even seem to know what I mean by bureaucracy, but off you go then.

    prole ,

    Buddy, my JOB is bureaucracy. But sure, I’ll defer to you.

    The fact that you’re so fixating on this is starting to become a bit suspicious.

    Just to let you know for future attempts at gaslighting.

    Excrubulent , (edited )
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    Wow, that completely contentless comment was so convincing.

    If you’re not interested in what I have to say, why are you still replying?

    prole ,

    Why indeed…

    Excrubulent ,
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    It’s a good question. If you think I’m obviously not worth listening to, then what is the purpose of your replies?

    What is the purpose of this reply? It’s just an empty nothing. Do you just need to get the last word? Is that all this is?

    prole ,

    I truly don’t believe you read my last comment. The one before my question.

    Excrubulent ,
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    This one?

    Buddy, my JOB is bureaucracy. But sure, I’ll defer to you.

    The fact that you’re so fixating on this is starting to become a bit suspicious.

    Just to let you know for future attempts at gaslighting.

    You want a response to the content of this comment? What about it? What is so important? Your appeal to your JOB? Your suspicion about me because… I kept replying? Your accusing me of gaslighting?

    What exactly is it about this comment that you want me to read and understand?

    Excrubulent ,
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    Anyway, it turns out that debunking your crap is way easier than I thought it would be, because it’s so paper thin, so I may as well just do it.

    The idea of dismantling these agencies isn’t novel. Republicans have long run on the idea that the federal government is too big and needs to be streamlined. Abolishing the Department of Education, in particular, has been a Republican Party goal since the agency was signed into law by President Jimmy Carter in 1979.

    President Ronald Reagan made it a standard applause line.

    But there’s a reason it hasn’t happened.

    There are so many roadblocks to any such effort, experts said, that none could identify the last time a high-level department was entirely wiped off the map.

    Literally this is just campaign rhetoric that never happens. Exactly the propagandistic lie I said it was. Your own article frames it as such. They are fascists and they are full of shit.

    prole , (edited )

    With all due respect: As someone who works directly with this kind of thing, you need to know that this is more than rhetoric.

    And it is in the process of happening already. Trump did tons of damage to the administrative state at the federal level, and GOP state governments are doing it in their respective states across the country. You maybe just haven’t been made aware of it because it’s “boring” and not “sexy,” so it gets next to no coverage.

    • Look at how they’re dismantling the IRS.
    • Look at how SCOTUS just ruled that over half of America’s wetlands (by scientific definition) aren’t actually wetlands, and therefore no longer need protection from the EPA.
    • Look at what Trump was doing with the USPS (in cases like these, killing the government’s involvement means private companies do it instead. How convenient. And how do those companies curry favor with a fascist leader?
    • You can find lists and lists of regulations that have been killed since 2016. This is very real.
    • There are regulations that have been in place for decades that are being gutted or removed completely.

    Did you read the plan they put out at all? It’s already underway.

    You seem to be missing the point. Fascism demands complete control. That means when millions of career scientists who’s research goes against your goals, you purge them.

    We’re not quite at that level, but it’s in their 2025 plan. Part of it is to, over time, replace career public servants who do their job with no bias, with gop lackeys.

    Complete control doesn’t always mean more. It also means purging those who may stand against you.

    You’re just so confidently incorrect, and I can tell you haven’t actually looked at their very real plans for the near future. Yes, they’ve talked about it in the past… And? Now they’re in the position to do it, so they are doing what they’ve always talked/dreamed/wished about.

    Business plays a big role in allowing fascism to take hold, historically. Please remember that.

    Edit: added more examples as they’re coming to me

    Excrubulent ,
    @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

    None of this actually addresses the point that I was originally making, which is that bureaucracy is inherently conservative.

    Conservatives dismantling certain kinds of regulation has no bearing on that.

    Fascism needs bureaucracy in order to function.

    prole ,

    Yes, everything needs bureaucracy to function.

    In fascism, bureaucracy is not use as intended, it’s just a tool. Fascists (like they do with everything) will pick and choose between agencies, rules, and even individual career scientists with families, and use and manipulate them to fit their needs and reach their desired ends. And usually toss them away after.

    So yes, in that way they do need it.

    I believe that I did originally differentiate between a more “traditional” definition of the term 'conservative," and said that it probably would fit that definition in that it is meant as a check to slow progress slightly so we don’t do insanely stupid shit that puts millions/billions of people in harms way without them even knowing. Not without doing a little math first anyway.

    But when it comes to fascists, it’s simply a tool. It will slow/stop when they need it to, and it’ll speed up (or more likely, disappear completely), when they want that. They use it to their own ends.

    But that says nothing inherently about bureaucracy itself. Which is something a modern society needs to function properly and safely.

    Excrubulent ,
    @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

    You seem to think bureaucracy is synonymous with organisation, which it isn’t. Bureaucracy is about exercising power through rule-keeping. An important aspect of bureaucracy is that it is mandatory and monopolistic. It is imposed by force, and tends to be quite disordered and disruptive to peace for that reason.

    Societies don’t need bureaucracy to function, but top-down societies - like fascism and representative democracy - do. Horizontalist societies can organise without bureaucratic bullshit telling everyone how to live their lives.

    And it always has the feature that it is used selectively, and it favours in-groups, which is another way in which it is conservative. The fact you think this isn’t an inherent feature of your own bureaucracy tells me that you are privileged enough to be favoured by the system as it currently is, and inattentive enough not to see how inconsistent it really is.

    You already said it’s your job, as some sort of assertion that you must be right. In my experience people who do that aren’t very good at their jobs, because otherwise they’d be able to explain their reasons and not fall back on an appeal to authority. You sound like exactly the kind of small-minded asshole that thrives in bureaucracy.

    Also, if you have to admit that bureaucracy actually is conservative, and you’re talking about some special brand of conservatism that you think is different to that, then I don’t even know where you disagree with me.

    prole , (edited )

    A bureaucracy is when a government is set up to allow people who are career experts in their respective fields to make policy decisions that make sense, rather than clueless politicians. They are apolitical by definition. It can only really be considered “conservative” in that it, by design, slows things down to make sure that the rules and laws we are making are safe, make sense, won’t kill people (quickly or slowly), etc. I don’t mean conservative in a political way.

    When you remove replace those experts with unqualified stooges (see current GOP House budget that reduces EPA funding by 40%. See Trump rule that removed protections from over 60% of America’s wetlands. See GOP’s literal stated goals), it stops functioning. Everything stops functioning. Which is the intention of the fascistic “conservatives” that are running the GOP.

    They are breaking down any such system that may improve people’s lives. They’re openly doing it, and gloating about it:

    • They’re doing it to the EPA.
    • They’re doing it to the Dept. of Education.
    • They are doing it to the ATF.
    • They’re doing it to the USPS.
    • They’re doing it to the friggin Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
    • They’re even doing it to the FBI.

    And of course, they’re doing it to the IRS, because obviously that one makes the rest much easier to gut.

    I said already that fascists will pick and choose when convenient, but the idea that “conservatives” (as they are currently defined in the US) are not currently dismantling all sorts of bureaucracy that literally keeps people from dying, is absurd.

    Can you not see it? They want to “dismantle the administrative state,” as they say themselves. When that plays out, and we’ve reverted back to a form of feudalism, they see themselves as being the new feudal lords. THAT is when they “rebuild” the state into something built entirely to serve their own interests. Fascism designed from the ground up, with hundreds of years of lessons on what pitfalls to avoid in order to stay in power indefinitely.

    When you start taking climate change into account, it starts to make even more sense. Big time preppers like Steve Huffman (spez) see themselves as the leaders of a feudalistic, post climate wars world.

    I wish I was kidding. I have a source for that last part specifically if you want to read it. It’s insanity. Huffman is a psycho.

    Excrubulent ,
    @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

    You literally just ignored everything I said or directly nay-sayed it and kept banging the same drum which is isn’t even relevant to this discussion.

    It’s pretty clear you’re not interested in what I have to say.

    Also?

    A bureaucracy is when a government is set up to allow people who are career experts in their respective fields to make policy decisions that make sense, rather than clueless politicians.

    Bless. You sweet soul.

    prole ,

    Lol ok. Clearly you’re the one with no interest in an actual conversation. I made a pretty well thought out comment and I’m not even sure you read it.

    I guess I’m going to be the one to tell you, but that’s exactly what bureaucracy means. Just because you have some warped definition in your mind, doesn’t make it true.

    I can’t say I’m not curious to hear what you believe to be incorrect about what I said…

    I’m actually starting to think that maybe you don’t know what the word actually means? It’s almost like maybe the only context you’ve seen/heard it used is from some commentator on YouTube that HATES bureaucracy so they only ever frame it in a certain way. And because of that, your concept of what it actually means, is completely skewed.

    That’s just the vibe I’m getting.

    But ok hoss, let’s hear it: What is “bureaucracy”?

    Excrubulent ,
    @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

    I already told you the answer. It is literally two of my comments above this one.

    I can’t say I’m not curious to hear what you believe to be incorrect about what I said…

    You need to do better than that. I want to understand what you’re saying here, but it is difficult. I would love to have a real conversation about this, but if you can’t read what I’ve already written and respond to it, and you can’t even pretend to be genuinely curious about what I have to say - not what I think of what you have to say, there is a difference - then I think we’re done here.

    If you can’t admit curiosity and demonstrate it by responding to what I’ve said, I won’t reply. If you can actually do those things after all this defensiveness then you will thoroughly surprise me, which is a genuine gift in this day and age.

    KepBen ,

    Strikes me as awfully convenient that there’s no such thing as a bad guy and all bad ideas are easily dismissed as “campaign rhetoric”…

    Excrubulent ,
    @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

    I didn’t say any of what you’re attributing to me.

    KepBen ,

    I’m not sure what you think I’ve attributed to you, I read what you wrote and shared my impression of it. If my impression is incorrect in some painfully obvious (to you) way, maybe you could take the time to explain that instead of simply calling me a liar?

    Excrubulent ,
    @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

    there’s no such thing as a bad guy and all bad ideas are easily dismissed as “campaign rhetoric”

    I don’t know… like I didn’t say this. This is so obviously a strawman that I don’t think it warrants any more explanation, unless you can explain how what I said amounts to this.

    Such a bad faith first impression doesn’t encourage me to share more, thanks anyway.

    KepBen ,

    I’m sorry, the argument you laid out is spurious and nonsensical. I did the best I could to understand it but it really does seem like something that would apply to literally any subject based on some unstated preference. Did you mean to say something other than “campaign rhetoric therefore obvious lie because it’s impossible for campaigns to be honest”?

    Excrubulent ,
    @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

    How is it spurious and nonsensical? If you can explain that, then you have something more than a strawman, but so far you don’t.

    And I could reiterate what I’ve obviously already said, but I would just be repeating myself. I don’t know where your misunderstanding roots from because you’re not explaining yourself, so I don’t know how to help you.

    TokenBoomer , to world in Israel Gaza: Community frozen as Hamas atrocities continue to emerge

    Is this supposed to distract me from the bombing of churches and children? I can haz multitasking.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    I do feel like the media is trying extra hard right now to toe the line.

    TokenBoomer ,

    Great name

    stolid_agnostic ,

    Thanks! Also real cute that everyone is so edgy that they downvoted your compliment lol.

    TokenBoomer ,

    After the ground invasion they’ll say they never supported Israel. Just like no one in America voted for Bush in 2004 after the WMD debacle.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    I’ll take “we’ve seen this story play out before” for $500 please Alex.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    P.S. revel in the downvotes. You gain karma in the afterlife every time a Zionist cries.

    Brkdncr ,

    It’s possible they are both awful, but individually yes this report is rough to read.

    FederatedSaint ,

    It’s disgusting that as a result of this article, you still feel the need to come here and say Israel is bad.

    Cethin ,

    Are they not? They have killed more innocents (or at least as far as we know they had prior to this current conflict). Israel isn’t “bad” but it’s government is.

    mwguy OP ,

    This is a report from the region about the afteath of an unprovoked raid by Hamas against her neighbor. This is what Hamas chose and intended to happen and it’s nominally the justification for the bombs going off in Gaza right now.

    TheOctonaut ,

    unprovoked

    neighbor

    lol

    mwguy OP ,

    Yes unprovoked. The event that was supposed to justify this action (apparently sacrificing a goat somewhere) never happened.

    BrokebackHampton ,
    @BrokebackHampton@kbin.social avatar

    Those savages living in the modern recreation of the Warsaw Ghetto we created for them attacked us! It was completely UnPrOvOkEd!

    mwguy OP ,

    If this has been an attack launched by West Bank Palestinians you’d have an argument. But this is coming from the Gaza strip. The strip has the 1967 peace borders, no settlements and self rule. In the mid 2000s every Jew was evicted from the strip, every settlement emptied in a model for what peace and a 2 state solution was suppose to look like for the region.

    NoIWontPickaName ,

    Would you like to look back in time a little or just keep on pretending you k ow what you are talking about.

    This did not happen in a vacuum, israel has been stealing more and more land every year, killing children, and killing journalists.

    Shit now they're talking about shrinking gaza again.

    Multiple agencies warned Israel something was going to happen, they ignored it and now they get to take even more land.

    mwguy OP ,

    They didn’t call it the “Shit that happened in the 1940s Flood”.

    Cethin ,

    Wasn’t the attack in internationally recognized Palestinian territory? The fact the attack is considered to be in Israel at all is provocation of some sort. Now, you may argue it wasn’t justified, but it surely was provoked.

    mwguy OP ,

    No, they crossed the internationally recognized 1967 borders (which are in effect on the Gaza Strip) to commit this attack. Israel (specifically Israeli’s left wing coalition) pulled all of its settlers and settlements out of Gaza in 2004,5 and established the 1967 borders to try to demonstrate that pulling back to the '67 borders would lead to peace and would be worth it to do so to establish a Palestinian state.

    TokenBoomer ,

    “Nominally” is doing the heavy lifting.

    gmtom ,

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  • FederatedSaint ,

    I knew this would bring out the despicable “quick, blame Israel!” crowd.

    TokenBoomer ,

    You must be proud of your prescience. Now ask yourself why?

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