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garbagebagel , to lemmyshitpost in "Gems stolen from British Museum seen for first time" Bruh, how are you going to get mad someone stole what you stole?

The vast majority of the recovered items have come from Danish gemstone dealer Dr Ittai Gradel, who first alerted the museum to the thefts in 2021.

Is it me or does it make it sound like they have so much shit they didn’t even realize they were gone?

Side note though, those look beautiful.

Skullgrid OP ,
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yeah. They aren’t “displaying them for everyone around the world” they’re hoarding them in basements and taking them out every once in a while.

thoralf , to news in Russian opposition leader Navalny has died, prison service says
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„has been killed“ would be the proper wording

tesseract ,

Murdered. It’s not like this execution has a legal standing.

Devi ,

Nah, something happened, probably suicide, he stabbed himself in his own back, that’s called extra suicide, definitely nothing weird going on here.

100_percent_a_bot , to lemmyshitpost in "Gems stolen from British Museum seen for first time" Bruh, how are you going to get mad someone stole what you stole?

Hot take but it’s good that the British museum “stole” so much stuff. To quote everyone’s favorite archeologist: ‘This belongs in a museum.’

Pogogunner ,
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I think there's a continuum here

Items being left in their context > Items in a museum in the area they originate from > Items in a museum in a foreign area > Items in private possession

I don't know enough about any particular thing to say that being in the british museums is an improvement, but I don't think we should take it for granted that a museum is the ideal place for historical artifacts

1rre ,

> items decaying due to not being cared for > items being actively destroyed because people don’t care about them (Elgin Marbles moment, if they hadn’t been stolen they would’ve been pulverised to make building materials and yet now Greece are crying for them back) > items being actively destroyed for political reasons

There are huge amounts of things in Western museums that were looted, stolen, or otherwise illegitimately acquired (Koh I Noor among other things), but equally a lot of stuff was a case of “eh we don’t want it so if you’re going to pay for it in cash we’ll snap your hand off” - if you took something valued by the people then yeah you should give it back, but if you saved something unwanted from getting destroyed then I think the moral high ground is with the museum when they get a request for it to be returned

zout ,

These gems probably weren't even on display in the museum, just hoarded in storage forever.

Lith ,
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the museum announced up to 2,000 objects from its storerooms were missing, stolen or damaged

Not only were they in storage, they don’t even know what’s missing lmao

Buddahriffic ,

It’s funny because I came here wanting to make a comment about how that aspect of Indiana Jones didn’t really age well because it’s emblematic of the West thinking we are custodians of the world.

thesmokingman ,

It’s even more funny because there’s so much stuff that really doesn’t belong in museums if you talk to curators. The average person thinks a Picasso would go for millions and be on display anywhere; there are sketches Picasso did that only have value because Picasso drew them not because they’re good Picassos or moving art. This piece has a good perspective. If we hoarded everything ever we’d get to the point where future generations couldn’t make any new art because there would be no space.

I will never be able to actually touch one of these gems because no museum would let me. At the end of the day there’s not much difference between me flying across the world and standing in line with a bunch of people taking shitty selfies in front of a ton of protective glass to catch a glimpse of one side of this gem and seeing a virtual scan I can move around. Digitize it, send it back where it came from, and look toward new art.

Son_of_dad ,

Not in YOUR museum though, unless it was loaned by the country it belongs to. And to say “oh it’s safer here in our nice white museums” is nothing short of the continued patriarchal attitude that the British have towards other countries and races. You think it’s safer with you? Too bad, it’s not your call to make.

100_percent_a_bot ,

In so many cases that exact sentiment just turned out to be true though. How many ancient artifacts have been destroyed by political/religions extremists? How many more were lost due to neglect or because people tore them apart to use them as building materials? It probably wasn’t right to take them at the time but man, am I glad they took them.

Worx ,

British people are also not good at preserving history. Almost every ruined castle was at one point torn down for building materials. It’s probably the most common theme I read about on the little information plaques on them

100_percent_a_bot ,

You’re just underscoring my argument. If the British were about to tear down Stonehenge for building a shopping mall and out of nowhere the Black Panther’s stealth jet materialized to take the entire thing to the Wakanda national museum, I’d be absolutely fine with it.

Worx ,

Ah, you were talking about the British museum specifically, rather than Britain in general. I didn’t read your first comment properly :)

Szymon , to news in Russian opposition leader Navalny has died, prison service says

Sounds about right. RIP I hope your name is remembered for the changes you tried to bring to your people.

tesseract ,

He will always be remembered for his fearless investigations. Especially the one where he conned a Russian agent who had attempted to assassinate him into giving up sensitive information.

_lilith , to lemmyshitpost in "Gems stolen from British Museum seen for first time" Bruh, how are you going to get mad someone stole what you stole?
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I want so badly for someone to steal shit from the British Museum only to give it to its country of origin. Like oh yeah we found the Benin Bronzes but they gave them back to Nigeria. What are they gonna do loot them again?

Pumafred9 , to lemmyshitpost in "Gems stolen from British Museum seen for first time" Bruh, how are you going to get mad someone stole what you stole?

Not stolen, the gems are just resting in the museums…

Jiggle_Physics ,

They just went on vacation in good ol’ brittan

Icalasari ,

So what you're saying is that I should convince the British I'm an artifact to get a free vacation?

NigelFrobisher ,

On behalf of all Britons I declare you an artefact.

Jiggle_Physics ,

If you can, you will get a good visit to the british museum at least.

PatMustard ,

Down with this sort of thing

FlashMobOfOne , to news in Russian opposition leader Navalny has died, prison service says
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Reminds me of the time when Saudi Arabia murdered Jamal Khashoggi.

moistclump , to world in Russian opposition leader Navalny has died, prison service says

“Died” or “made dead”?

hitwright ,

He was tortured long time. Little food, humiliation. In time he died afaik.

Battle_Masker , to lemmyshitpost in "Gems stolen from British Museum seen for first time" Bruh, how are you going to get mad someone stole what you stole?
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Sly Cooper and the gang in

The Great British Break-In

bobs_monkey , to lemmyshitpost in "Gems stolen from British Museum seen for first time" Bruh, how are you going to get mad someone stole what you stole?

When average folk steal stuff, they’re “thieves,” but when well-to-do folks steal stuff, it’s “archeology.”

agegamon , to news in Russian opposition leader Navalny has died, prison service says

Putin might as well just say the quiet part out loud at this point. Classic sociopath dictator, gotta pretend blood isn’t on his hands.

Rest in peace Navalny. You and your people deserve better than this.

jarfil ,

Part of the strategy of a terror state, is to have people fill in the blanks themselves. That way they can never know whether “let’s have some tea”, “let’s go for a walk”, or “have you looked out the window” are actual death threats or not, keeping everyone in a constant state of paranoia, that makes them try extra hard to not displease the dictator.

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In an interview last week with US journalist Tucker Carlson, Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed long-standing rumours that the Kremlin was considering a prisoner swap with Vadim Krasikov, who was jailed in Germany after murdering a Chechen dissident in a park in Berlin in 2019.

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