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Grisham, Martin join authors suing OpenAI: “There is nothing fair about this” (arstechnica.com)

Yesterday, popular authors including John Grisham, Jonathan Franzen, George R.R. Martin, Jodi Picoult, and George Saunders joined the Authors Guild in suing OpenAI, alleging that training the company’s large language models (LLMs) used to power AI tools like ChatGPT on pirated versions of their books violates copyright laws...

mindbleach ,

The fuck is an English language AI supposed to be trained on, if not popular examples of the English language? Churning the entire global corpus down to a mess of algebra is extremely transformative. Nevermind the end goal is a generalized program to produce anything, in limitless quantities, based on high-level descriptions and incomplete examples.

We can’t even offer to use texts from thirty-odd years ago, in the public domain… because copyright maximalism like this shit right here have ruined the public domain. Surprisingly - A Game Of Thrones would still be in-copyright. It’s from 1996. But there’s another generation of living authors, and a whole mess of dead people, who haven’t written much since well before then, and made quite a lot of money off what they did. That culture belongs to its audience now. That’s what the money was for.

mindbleach ,

Disagreement isn’t lack of understanding. Some of us are opposed to copyright, entirely. I’m personally not. But: this is not what copyright exists to protect against. And the more it feeds on, the less it resembles any specific work.

Fuck all the replies calling people unfeeling worthless robots over this. Miserable dehumanizing hypocrites.

mindbleach ,

LLMs and AI aren’t even new, I studied about them in college. 10 years ago. It’s just that we have faster hardware that can finally support them.

This theoretical sci-fi stuff from barely a decade ago is now real enough to threaten entire industries. Yawn, am I right?

mindbleach ,

pro privacy, anti big tech, and anti capitalism

And you’re surprised this correlates against letting authors control information for money?

The software-freedom crowd just wants OpenAI’s models published, so no single company gets to limit access to the distilled essence of all public knowledge. Being against “big tech” has never meant being against… tech. We’re not Amish. We’re open-source diehards. Sometimes that comes through as declaring a vendetta against intellectual property, as a concept. No kidding those folks aren’t lining up behind GRRM, when he declares a robot’s not allowed to learn English from his lengthy and well-known books.

mindbleach ,

It is impossible to generate CSAM.

That’s the entire goddamn point of calling it CSAM. To stop people mislabeling drawings as CP, when they don’t understand that Bart Simpson doesn’t have the same moral standing as a real human child.

You cannot abuse children who do not exist.

Whether you’re opposed to those generated images anyway is a separate issue.

mindbleach ,

Stolen! Theft! Robbery!!!

Fuck that. They used publicly-available documents, and they used them to measure letter frequencies. The model just guesses what letter comes next. That’s it. The more English text we shovel in, the more generic the model gets.

You don’t pay royalties on every work you’ve ever read, before writing these comments.

When this technology is working properly, that’s the level of impact each work has.

mindbleach ,

These two groups massively overlap, as evidenced by the quantity of open source topics to be complained about.

You don’t get to hand-wave about a group of people, based on their opinions on this subject, and then complain about someone addressing your summary on its merits.

mindbleach ,

e.t.c.

Only the cetera in et cetera is shortened.

mindbleach ,

We knew that day law enforcement was held back.

mindbleach ,

It’s the only browser made for users.

mindbleach ,

You tell the IT guy your webcam keeps falling off, and he’s gonna show up and commit violence. Only probably against you.

mindbleach ,

Your mouse driver needs A* pathfinding.

mindbleach ,

Vertical is so nice for text and so bad for video.

And for games… apparently Zandronum renders 4:3 regardless of resolution. So one time I played Knee Deep In The Dead looking like Marathon.

mindbleach ,

Yeah, and a shadow mask.

mindbleach ,

Corporations have a legal department that will run in and slap the words back into your mouth.

mindbleach ,

I mean… the situation depicted predates capitalism.

mindbleach ,

Pyspark, Numpy, and Krebase really ought to be.

mindbleach ,

With a few shots where you go “oh, the Wachowskis saw this.”

mindbleach ,

Y’know that infamous quote about Rick & Morty that doesn’t understand how enjoying things made by smart people is different from being smart yourself?

You have to be smart to appreciate this movie.

For better and for worse.

You can definitely enjoy it, taking it at its word that everything makes sense. It has some fantastic ideas casually sprinkled in, to make you worry and wonder, but not as part of any larger puzzle. The major thread of the film, and its conclusion, still work if you’re only kinda following it.

But when you trace what’s going on, you will find that the filmmakers did all their homework, and everything does make sense, even if it takes you ages to work out how.

mindbleach ,

God Bless America is a much more self-aware take on that… for better and for worse.

It also illustrates what I call “the woods.” Some works have a filter where half of the audience bails. The namesake is The Hobbit, where the characters go into the woods, and if you are not enthralled by Tolkein’s writing style, you are not making it out of the woods. There’s a point real early on, in this movie, where you are either laughing your ass off or hammering the nope button. Neither group will regret the decision.

mindbleach ,

Endlessly amused that Dopesmoker has two tracks, and one of them is “only” ten minutes long.

mindbleach ,

Thrash metal does a line and plays nine songs instead.

mindbleach ,

Close To The Edge has two of Yes’s best songs.

Close To The Edge has three songs.

Soft Machine’s Third has four songs.

Soft Machine’s Third has four sides.

mindbleach ,

If you count 7 Skies H3 by The Flaming Lips - you shouldn’t.

mindbleach ,

I think it was Treeful Of Secrets that featured a one-side version “Shine On You Crazy Diamond” parts 1 & 2, and that’s still not as long or as good as “Echoes.”

mindbleach ,
mindbleach ,

‘Someone discussed us somewhere else - unacceptable.’

Uh huh.

mindbleach ,

All models are wrong, some models are useful.

mindbleach ,

One of the best details in the first episode is that a protagonist’s phone is cracked to hell. Magical future tech, transparent screen, lightfield camera, voice AI that works… and he still dropped the damn thing and can’t afford to replace it.

mindbleach ,

The MST3K mantra.

mindbleach ,

Being good enough is hard work and slow going.

Being better than paid alternative is just a waiting game. At a moment’s notice, they can decide they’ll keep the money and give people nothing… and that’s when people realize they’d rather have the opposite.

Philosophy doesn’t move the needle. But it’s hard to compete with free. Especially if you expect people to pay serious money just to be told “no.”

mindbleach ,

Seems utterly forgotten, in terms of mainstream presence. I only saw it because we had it on VHS. Never seen it on TV, never had it recommended on streaming, never even noticed a torrent available.

It follows a theater production of some screwball comedy, but mostly focuses on backstage tensions. Michael Caine, Christopher Reeve, John Ritter… Carol Burnett. Just a perfect cross-section of early-80s actors for complete chaos.

mindbleach ,

Kentucky Fried Movie is highly influential, routinely sampled, and yet I think mostly unseen. Like, everyone’s seen Airplane. They’ve probably seen Naked Gun and heard of Police Squad. But this and Amazon Women On The Moon are those writers… doing Rick & Morty’s interdimensional cable, basically. Freeform skits lasting however long they need to. The dumbest ideas you’ve ever heard, going in bizarre directions, and working far better than you expect. One of them stops the movie to have a panel discussion of the stereotypes present in the previous skit, and it is masterful.

I wouldn’t say either is better than the straight spoofs. But they’re what skit shows have been chasing for fifty years, and they’re not gonna waste your time.

mindbleach ,

Idle Hands.

2000-era disaffected teen horror-comedy. Not shy about the horror elements. Absolutely bombed. Basically a forgotten stoner comedy that you reeeally shouldn’t watch high.

Devon Sawa, Seth Green, Elden Henson, Jessica Alba, Vivica Fox.

mindbleach ,

Welcome to reality as a team sport. Words don’t mean things. It’s all just signalling - ingroup always good, outgroup always bad.

mindbleach ,

The line should be, “Sir - Klingon relationships weather far worse than polite rebuke.” As written, it is bone-dry, even in the context of Worf getting pulled aside and chewed out.

mindbleach ,

More generally: conservatism is hierarchy. It is inseparable from separation. It is humanity’s default tribal loyalty, as a theory-of-everything, and it demands both the veneration of powerful individuals as god-kings who can do no wrong, and the exclusion of arbitrary outgroups as though they are lesser human beings. Where that leads when unchecked is obvious. Where that leads when backed into a corner can be worse.

mindbleach ,

He only fucked up 1/3 of it.

That math doesn’t math. He was directly responsible for 2/3s of it, and the other third he plowed over.

Rian’s script was a genuinely excellent anarchist critique of space opera. Whether or not that belongs in a numbered Star Wars movie is debatable. But the real disconnect with the audience is the edit. The film we got is not excellent. The film we got is not exactly good. And yet - all popular criticism is this same irrelevant fluff.

Luke being a hermit was JJ’s fault. It was immutable, when Rian began. Rian’s explanation was fine. Jesus Christ, his description of the Force is incredible. People keep shitting on his opinion of the Jedi as if the Jedi way didn’t fail the Republic, fail his parents, and fail his mentors, all two of whom kept playing mind games even after death. Some girl shows up expecting How To Hero 101 and of course he says no.

I ask you - as opposed to what?

Sketch it out for me. What does Luke’s motivation look like, when a Force-sensitive rando shows up on his extremely private retreat, offering a tool he built from scratch and obviously abandoned? The man knows smugglers, bounty hunters, militants, and diplomats. He’s attuned to a psychic power that permeates all life and matter. Some glorified barkeep having his backup glowstick in her basement would not stop him from getting it, if he set aside a month and gave half a shit. Tell me what it would look like, if it looked like that Luke Skywalker was well-written, in your eyes.

Me, personally? I’m quite happy with him kicking Rey straight down the only-what-you-take-with-you hole. He doesn’t toy with her except to show her she doesn’t need training and shouldn’t want training. Yoda played some Mister Miyagi shit while he was looking for a level-up before 1v1-ing the scariest motherfucker in the universe. “Ben” was a dutch uncle his whole life and never mentioned he had space-wizard bona fides, nevermind that his dad was alive and well and the scariest motherfucker in the universe. Jedi hermit Luke points out: the fact this trilogy exists means that what Luke did did not work. Of course he tells her not to repeat his mistakes. His ambition did not solve the problem.

mindbleach ,

Whoops. Yeah fair enough on mathing that math.

Still no idea what you think was missing from the explanation of how he got there. Him being there was a given. It awkwardly ended the previous movie, with a bizarre helicopter circle shot. Sprinkled throughout two whole acts, we got a Rashomon overview of him doing what we expected and having that blow up in his face. Short of making the movie about him–

And we’re glossing over how Luke in Return Of The Jedi very nearly turned to the dark side. The Emperor was fuckin’ thrilled until he got chucked down that elevator shaft. Luke Skywalker was always a hold-my-beer archetype. Plan A for Darth Vader was murder. There was no Plan B. Even with Jabba and the Emperor, his idea of a diplomatic alternative was to surrender his way in, and then murder his way out.

Luke being grumpy is infinitely more explicable than having the empire ‘return, somehow.’ Especially for an audience that’s spent decades joking about the prequels, and wonders if the whole franchise would’ve gone better if Qui-Gon hadn’t yelled “duck.” Having the prescience to see Kylo ruin everything is the fuzzy precognition we’ve long since known about. Seriously considering murder as a solution is his go-to. He’s not Batman.

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