Are there any paid services for either Lemmy or Mastodon? Something where, given it is a subscription service, you would expect them to stick around long-term?
I’d love to self host one for everyone but not allow communities. The idea would be that I federate with everyone no matter what and leave a what the user wants to sub to up to them. No censorship at all.
Not having communities would mean I don’t have to worry about what I host and have other instances defederate with me. Plus, I have no interest in being mod, dealing with DCMA,user reports, etc.
You could check out lemmy.world/c/dragonage? Obviously it’s a bit dead at the moment, but this is the thing: all of these little communities need to be restarted from scratch, and to do that you need to contribute your own content until enough people show up that the feed starts rolling on its own. Lemmy.world is currently the biggest instance, and that community has 102 subs already. Seems like a great place to start if you want to recreate r/dragonage on lemmy.
Now that a lot of the commotion has subsided I’m just curious to know how y’all are finding the Lemmy experience in general and whether you use it regularly like you did reddit?
I like it and I think I can say with confidence that I’ve made the switch from Reddit to Lemmy as my default “internet frontpage.”
Still rough in spots, though. The defederation drama is making this a bit of a rocky experience, so I’m not sure I’ve landed on my final instance just yet. I understand this is an unavoidable aspect of the Fediverse (i.e. relations between instances), but I still haven’t settled on an instance where I can say, “Yep, this is the one for me.”
On the positive side, I love Infinity for Lemmy, even with some of the remaining bugs, and I love that I can open a discussion that’s on the top of my feed and I can still have meaningful interactions with the community. I hope my favorite subs from Reddit will eventually come to life here, because then I’d be golden.
Overall, this all feels like a fresh new start and I love it.
I miss episode anine episode discussions and isk what im doing wrong but sometimes I find a good instance but cannot access their feed from my account, and I dont wanna create another account or add the subs individually, you even see it has more post than subs most of the time. Aside from that its great, feels like im not required to say something that fishes for upvotes thus I comment a bit more
Feels like OG reddit back in the day with less niche subs and with an /all that is more readable (and with the occasional surprise nsfw reddit used to have). I feel that in reddit I had drifted to only reading my own curated sub list, and barely reading /all due to the toxicity
Only rarely do I get back to reddit, mostly because one of the sport subs, which has a repost bot on lemmy, shows an article I want to read the comments on.
Yes sometimes the polarized instances get a bit annoying, I find them managable and interesting to see what these communities are talking about every now and then.
Mastodon has imo dogshit discoverability. For Lemmy it feels like posts across the federated instances are all elegantly aggregated onto my front page. I can also easily subscribe to subs on other instances.
On Mastodon the client has to work around the backend to do simple stuff like aggregate the posts of multiple instances. Most stuff in the federated feed is pretty much random and the local feed is restricted to your account’s instance.
User discoverability is also awful. If I dont have a user’s exact name and instance it’s nigh impossible to find them outside of my own instance. Searching lemmy is much more effective when it comes to external instances.
Mastodon is trying too hard to be a twitter clone in some ways I feel. If it had instance subscriptions a hit like how lemmy lets you subscribe to subs it would be way more useful. Right now it feels like everyone is shouting into the void.
I use the ‘official’ Jerboa app and the web interface and duuude is it a Hassle to add a sole unknown community!
I’m doing them all for what I know ; pasting different link types into jerboa search, pasting the instance, !first, /c/ … Going to web UI, doing the same, doing the lemmy.mysite.com/c/[email protected] or what the correct thing is (I have it somewhere) and obviously it still doesn’t work.
For like 30 minutes.
Then it “just works” 😅
It would be great if admins at least (I can see the possible abuse if anyone can force-feed communities to the instance, but well they can today so… ) can add communities to their instances by some “add-list” the server grabs quickly (I know we can by subbing to them but see above, it sure is not easy). Could be cool to be able to grab a bunch of fun communities, or art communities, or sport communities or whatever someone shares, and just force feed them to your instance.
I thought whitelisting was something along those lines, I sure was surprised 🙂.
Great job though Lemmy Developers, I’m quite sure Lemmy will roam the internet for ever!
It would be great if admins at least (I can see the possible abuse if anyone can force-feed communities to the instance, but well they can today so…) can add communities to their instances (I know we can, by subbing to them but see above, it sure is not easy).
Isn’t that how Lemmy’s all feed works? If someone else subscribes to an outside community it shows up under everyone’s all tab?
Their “power” would be relative to other lemmy instances, not absolute.
The comparison to reddit isn’t really fair, as by the time they were getting thousands of subs with more than 127k subscribers, they had been bought by Conde Nast, and were also making money through ads.
These servers don’t just magically run for free, someone is paying for it. And I don’t know about you, but I don’t want lemmy to change in order to appear more appealing to advertisers.
Are the admins of lemmy.world somehow responsible for what their members do, even if it´s not on their own instance?
They are not responsible for what their users do, but for what is saved on their instance. And by any lemmy.world user interacting with content from a different instance, their lemmy.world will host a copy of that content. That’s how lemmy works.
So if a lemmy.world user subscribes to a pirate sub, that whole subs content is now mirrored on lemmy.world.
Not just related to piracy that’s a huge liability issue for admins.
In the former instance there was an actual concerted effort to specifically murder people of a certain minority. In the latter there was a misguided attempt to squash an insurgency and build a new government at all costs. This is documented history and I can only assume you’ve been drooling on some communist furry subs for the past decade and just left adolescence. You can’t just change word’s definitions for your own childish deranged goals.
This is in regard to Lemmy.world blocking piracy communities from other instances. This post is not about whether you agree with the decision. It’s about how the admins informed their users....
It’s BS to not announce, on lemmy.world something that affects lemmy.world.
Be open and transparent.
I don’t like that you blocked the piracy communities but I recognise that you see a reason to do so.
I’ve already begun migrating my subs to another instance because that’s the great thing about the fediverse - I can.
If you want to be the big Lemmy instance with a lot of traffic then you’re going to have to protect yourself, I get it. But at least have the balls to announce your unpopular decisions.
AFAIK /r/trueoffmychest on Reddit was a reaction to people feeling that the mods/rules of /r/offmychest were too restrictive (I have no horse in this race, I don’t know if that was actually warranted or not.) A quick search shows me that !goodoffmychest exists, and seems to be the most active offmychest community on Lemmy currently.
I have no real experience with that community and its mods, or if any of them are the same people who ran either reddit sub, but at a glance their rules seem reasonable enough to me, so perhaps start there.
Lemmy is new enough that I doubt there are enough users dissatisfied with the moderation on that community to warrant forming a breakaway community already, and if there were there’s a decent chance that they’d just start a second offmychest on a different instance instead of calling it trueoffmychest, if not go with a completely different name entirely.
If you do find their rules too restrictive, you could always take the initiative to start your own community, otherwise you’d have to wait for enough people to splinter off and do it themselves so you can join, or learn to play by the rules of the existing community, or just do without entirely.
Yeah I’ve really loved the culture of niche instances like startrek.website, lebowski.social, sffa.alliance. I think they provide an interesting and friendly local feed, have a more general federated feed, and then of course you can have your own subs. I say go for it!
@CandleTiger@Frub >I see lemmy and mastodon going the same way if they grow enough.
This is one of those things where exactly what happens depends on what group of people you're in. There's lots of sub-100 person instances which are basically "using your cool friend's server" or "using some cool rando's server."
The reality is that if you ask someone to pay to shitpost on fedi, they'll cap the cost at "whatever it costs to self-host," which ain't much.
Also to note in, there are a few ‘subscriber bots’ out there on github to help a new instance get some seed communities out there. It can make the DB and loval storage swell like crazy but is nice when you don’t feel a need to manually sub to everything.
We aren’t defeferated from them. That’s different from hosting that content ourselves though.
I’m not personally against piracy, however hosting that kind of content here ourselves would put our primary reason for creating this space (that of providing a safe social space for trans and LGBTQIA+ people) at risk.
I just wanted to point that out before we get a whole bunch of piracy subs created on our instance that we’d have to remove.
They’re not just talking about piracy, they’re linking to it. There’s piracy subs on Reddit too and they’re allowed because they are very careful to only talk about it and not link to it, and they’re severely gimped because of that. What’s great about lemmy is that instances that are on with the risk can do so without having to follow anyone else’s rules and users can access it by simply having another account.
It would but then that bath water comes with the baby.
I can get people talking about piracy but it comes with Russian propaganda, Hitler love, fat shaming and homophobia.
It would be kind of cool to have a client where your communities come from specific instances where you want them. If an instance goes down have it pick a backup instance and pull the community from there. Of course it would require separate accounts in separate communities with separate subs on each instance, making each user weigh many times there normal cost for lemmy operation.
There’s always self-hosting, but it has its own discovery pitfalls. When you’d like a pie hole and public rated block lists where you can tell it what you do and don’t want to see
Actually no, or maybe combine that with a pop-up to move to another more open, freer instance - with automatic subs, blocks and settings migration. That would be productive.
sdf has a few instances, they might be more resilient. I’m hesitant about the ones spun up by some random person who says they’ll keep it going forever, but at the end of the day I’m not too worried about switching instances when I need to.
Exactly. I don’t get why people are freaking out so much when it’s easy to create a new account and clients support multiple accounts anyways. Big instances are a big target so they need to protect themselves. On Reddit the piracy subs are neutered because they can’t link to anything. What’s good about the fediverse is you can have sub verses within it. It’s dumb to have your piracy account linked to your main account anyways.
Paid Servers?
Are there any paid services for either Lemmy or Mastodon? Something where, given it is a subscription service, you would expect them to stick around long-term?
Communities similar to r/dragonage?
Is anybody aware of lemmy communities similar to r/dragonage on reddit?...
how is Lemmy going for you?
Now that a lot of the commotion has subsided I’m just curious to know how y’all are finding the Lemmy experience in general and whether you use it regularly like you did reddit?
If everyone was spread out onto different instances, and communities were based all over the fediverse, the decisions of one instance would be less impactful. (media.kbin.cafe)
Official Statement from Lemmy.world admin about community removal (lemmy.world)
Ukraine to compete at 2024 Olympics on one condition: athletes from Russia and Belarus must perform under neutral flags (www.rt.com)
Lemmy.world announces blocking communities via Discord [update]
This is in regard to Lemmy.world blocking piracy communities from other instances. This post is not about whether you agree with the decision. It’s about how the admins informed their users....
Is there a "True off my chest" Lemmy community here?
I’m looking for one, but the search on mobile is difficult.
Would there be interest and support in potentially building an art focused lemmy instance?
cross-posted from: literature.cafe/post/462140...
What's the difference betone lemmy instance or another?
They all look the same to me, and I can communicate with other Lemmy users so what’s the point? (I don’t know anything about Lemmy lol I just joined)
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This still baffles me, but I guess it's good for federation? (i.imgflip.com)
Context: sh.itjust.works/comment/2181865
lemmy.world blocked the largest piracy community in all of lemmy (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
cross-posted from: sh.itjust.works/post/2881638...
It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community (sh.itjust.works)
!piracy has also been blocked from lemmy.world....
What happened to the main Piracy community
It’s gone. Wanted to ask over here before I went to check on Reddit.
Right to Repair (images.squarespace-cdn.com)
!right2repair...