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If that’s given, every entity (@‘person, @‘community, …) on each instance is unique.
Therefore, there can never be a duplicate identity = <entity>@<instance.domain>
Which allows the general assumption (all implementations adhere to the standard) each instance (homing instance, where the user is based) can verify the every identity within it’s domain.
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Red Hat is going full evil mode and Fedora, which is largely controlled by Red Hat, is also pushing forward with questionable decisions. At this time, as some Fedora users look for a new $HOME there are many recommending OpenSUSE but before doing this, please read the post below....
I started using Fedora after RH killed CentOS, mainly for this reason. However now I feel bit differently about all of this.
At the end of the day, it’s clear RH is not doing this out of good of their heart. They are looking for mutually beneficial relationship, yes. But importantly they are also steering the Linux ecosystem towards that mutually beneficial direction.
And I no longer feel like I can support that. I don’t trust Red Hat as a company to keep innovating and improving the ecosystem in such way it is truly mutually beneficial in long term. I expect that they are mainly interested in directions that benefit RHEL, and allow RHEL to maintain commercially viable, private codebase.
I think that without pushback, they will make desktop linux like so many other Open Source projects: in practice the commercial product is the only really working and well-rounded implementation, because developing alternatives is very complex and requires so much developer time.
So I’d much prefer sending my bug reports to some other community with some other domain. And I’d like to contribute towards pushing the mutually beneficial relationship to a direction where RHEL is just another distribution, and Gnome just another DE. I don’t want a future where it makes sense to say a user is missing Gnome-functionality or RHEL-features, when discussing software that has no reason to be exclusive to either.
If RH is the primary developer of Fedora, and Fedora is the exclusive testbed for desktop-linux, I feel like that’s likely to happen.
no you need a domain - if you already have one you can use a subdomain, e.g. lemmy.mydomain.com - then you deploy a server, point the (sub)domain to it, then install and configure lemmy. Then, if you’re so inclined, you can create communities on that instance that federated systems can participate in. The content is hosted on your instance but the subscribers are logging in mostly though other instances.
I have Mastodon running on a VPS running Debian 11. Now I would like to add a Lemmy instance on the same server. I tried using the from scratch method from Lemmy documentation, but ran into errors that likely stemmed from minor version incompatibilities of the dependencies. I tried using the Lemmy easy deploy script but it wants...
Nope don't feel bad - it's totally understandable. Kbin is new, so the documentation is lacking.
Almost all content on Kbin, including users, has a follow / subscribe button in the sidebar beneath the magazine or user description. There's also a block button. These buttons can be used on almost all Kbin content, so it's very powerful - after spending about a week adding subs, my Kbin feed is far more active than Reddit was, even at its height.
Kbin breaks down your content into Magazines, Microblogs, and Threads. Magazines are synonymous with Communities on Lemmy, or subreddits on reddit. Microblogs are where the Mastodon Toots go, and how you interact with instances based on that architecture. Threads are just like posts on reddit, and can be text only, a link, a pic, or a video (although it seems video is still under development).
The best place to start getting subscriptions are in the magazines section:
...which lists all of the currently federated communities. Putting a domain search into the search bar will bring up all magazines in the instance on that domain:
This domain searching is extremely powerful, especially when you use the domain section (which can be hard to find) - you can get a breakdown of any domain currently federated on kbin by using the following link:
...where you'd put the domain you're interested in in place of 'lemmy.world'. You can then subscribe to the entire instance through that feed, or block it f you'd like. This also works for standard domains as well:
I this this requires some more subtlety: defederating from a corporate-controlled competitor can prevent Embrace/Extend/Extinguish.
Meanwhile, I think it would be perfectly sensible for businesses to create their own Fediverse instances on their own domain to control their social media presence, and avoid paying to be recognized as who you are. Communities on their instance could replace the once-ubiquitous forums.
I REALLY want to get away from using all Microsoft products. My spouse and I use Linux but not for our kids just simply because I have yet to find anything that does what Microsoft Family does - being able to remotely set time limits, keep an eye on screen time stats, block websites and apps remotely, see what websites they've...
For the app side of things, technically you can build a Linux install that you manage remotely and the kid doesn’t get root access. You can use SELinux to restrict what the kids can do, or even stop a good chunk of code execution by making all the folders they can write to noexec. There will always be the problem of interpreters like Perl/Python just inherently existing on pretty much every system, but if your kid is that far they’re probably close to just installing their own distro anyway.
You can set up some rsyslog or similar log shipping to log every app being accessed to a central database. You can monitor network traffic both via DNS (others mentionned PiHole), you can also set up a transparent proxy server so you can log not just the domains but the contents of all traffic including HTTPS, and potentially block based on keywords or just passively log all activity and act on it after the fact. Knowing you’re monitored is a decent deterrent in itself.
Depending on your coding skills, screen time can be pretty easy to monitor and configure via SSH. You can configure it like it’s a server and use tools like Ansible or Puppet to make the computer automatically pull your scripts and policies.
All of those things involve a certain amount of work though, it’s understandable to want to stick with known tools that do the job well. I think the community generally don’t like these kinds of tools so very few people make them. I’m also somewhat on the side of educating kids about the risks rather than bubblewrap the tech, but I imagine these days we’re talking very young kids going online for YouTube Kids and whatnot. I’ve personally had unrestricted access to the Internet since ~7 ish and already had Mandrake 9 installed when I was like 9-10, and probably contributed to my self teaching sysadmin and code very early on and had a web dev job when I was 17. I also was definitely exposed to some sketchy adult stuff as a side effect of pirating all sorts of enterprise software to play with, but I think my mom did a good job of teaching me what it was and grossed me out of it so much that unlike my peers I just didn’t feel like seeking porn or anything until I was well past the age of legally going to those sites.
I want to pull the wmctrl’s latest source code for my projects, but for some reason I can’t find the git repo anywhere online, just old (5yr+) Git re-uploads....
Let me preface by saying, I would love to hear counter points and am fully open to the fact that I could be wrong and totally out of touch. I just want to have some dialogue around something that’s been bothering me in the fediverse....
The cycle of social tech becoming mainstream and conversational norms being dragged down to a least common denominator predates modern social media. The earliest example I can think of is Usenet (newsgroups):
During the 1980s and early 1990s, Usenet and the Internet were generally the domain of dedicated computer professionals and hobbyists; new users joined slowly, in small numbers, and observed and learned the social conventions of online interaction without having much of an impact on the experienced users. The only exception to this was September of every year, when large numbers of first-year college students gained access to the Internet and Usenet through their universities. These large groups of new users who had not yet learned online etiquette created a nuisance for the experienced users, who came to dread September every year. Once ISPs like AOL made Internet access widely available for home users, a continuous influx of new users began, which continued through to 2015 according to Jason Koebler, making it feel like it is always "September" to the more experienced users.
It's the same cycle. Social tech starts off being used by a smaller number of technically inclined people. Communities are smaller and normalized civility is more commonplace. Peer pressure holds people to those norms. Once a social tech balloons from mainstream interest, the norms (or zeitgeist if you prefer) shift toward the incoming population because they outnumber the early population and exert more peer pressure. The new norms become a compromise between the norms of the incoming mob and what the community moderators are willing/able to enforce.
It's tempting to put labels on an incoming demographic and use it in a derogatory way, but removing the label from the equation doesn't change the source of unhappiness; the memory of what once was and the knowledge that it can't last when cultural dilution sets in.
(no, I'm not providing any solutions to the problem, this is just rambling that might provide more insightful people with a starting point)
They’re defederating smaller entities because the network got consumed by corpos. And abuse, but lots of that comes from big services and they don’t defed those.
It’s tempting to believe the email issue really is some conspiracy to keep the little guy down, but it really is just that a new domain, with low volume, is a strong signal for abuse. That is true with or without trouble from Gmail, Yahoo, etc. If you wrote a machine learning algorithm to find spam, your ML would come to the same conclusion. There’s no obvious solution to that.
Fediverse instances aren’t just providers, they’re communities.
Just like email list serves. Should a listserv block gmail subscriptions? I would again argue not.
This is in essence what FB/Meta is doing, all the time, except it’s not individual spam it’s an algorithmically backed manipulation mechanism using it’s users as tools ^.^
Presumably people using Threads want that. Or they’ll tolerate it.
Presumably people using Threads want that. Or they’ll tolerate it.
They will do it to us, not just Threads users.
Fediverse instances aren’t just providers, they’re communities.
Just like email list serves. Should a listserv block gmail subscriptions? I would again argue not.
Its more like email lists blocking people from other email lists. If there is a massive email list that has continually and specifically coordinated to destroy or consume other email lists and spent massive resources learning specifically how to do this via social manipulation, yes, I would think blocking people from that email list is a very good idea ^.^
It’s tempting to believe the email issue really is some conspiracy to keep the little guy down, but it really is just that a new domain, with low volume, is a strong signal for abuse
Perhaps if it wasn’t already corporate agglomerated, this wouldn’t be so true. But fediverse isn’t email, we have easier indicators for abuse because most content is public and we can guesstimate how much of an instance is “real” users ^.^
A lot of people dislike it for the privacy nightmare that it is and feel the threat of an EEE attack. This will also probably not be the last time that a big corporation will insert itself in the Fediverse....
In the grand scheme, though, no one uses either mastodon or lemmy. I’m sure, to the devs and people who joined before 2021, that a couple million users seems like an enormous victory (and it is), but relative to a half billion twitters, the 1.5 billion instagrammers, or even the 5+M that signed up for Threads on the first day, it’s nothing.
Those Threads users aren’t part of Lemmy or Mastodon, they’re part of Threads. They don’t have to know what Lemmy or Mastodon are, even as they benefit from content created there. Once Threads is big enough, they either DOS non-corporate instances with mountains of data, disable those instances with protocol-breaking customizations, or just ignore them because all the biggest communities and content are hosted at Threads.
When mozilla & google started working together, Firefox was the majority browser and chrome a ridiculous upstart trying to squeeze into a domain dominated by IE and FF. The fediverse does not have mozilla’s power in that analogy. I mean, fediverse may survive after that, but the commercial players will absolutely siphon off anyone who cares more about the user experience and content than about privacy on a public forum, which probably means the user base of July 2022, not July 2023.
As the title says, I’m ready to fire up a Lemmy server of my own. I have a suitable VPS running Debian 11. I think I can probably make short work of it once I get past this one difficult point. What should I call my Lemmy server? With catchy names out there like “Lemmy.World” and “sh.itjust.works”, I really want to...
.global requires at least 3 characters, unfortunately.
is.legal and by.ninja cost $110/yr, a questionable price for a domain that makes no money. In this case, by.community would probably be better at the same price.
without.rest is available, and only $40/yr. without.me has a $5000+ premium fee, but the following are available for $50/yr or less[^1]:
snails.forsale $30/yr; probably a lot of weird .forsale available
yourname.eating.rocks $13/yr
backdoor.icu $18/yr
backdoor.dad $15/yr
backdoor.lawyer $40/yr
up.inyour.business $12/yr
[^1]: Some of these might be first-year-only offers, I didn’t check. I was just finishing this list when I realized that Google Domains is probably only showing the premium prices for some registrars (it’s also being inconsistent about the price of without.me), so some of them might also have an extra fee (backdoor.icu is shown as premium, but doesn’t say what the fee is)
I tried searching loser and Google domains is giving me suggestions for loserbeck.*
I like it! Main issue for me is that there is not enough content on my hobbies, and “all” content is mostly filled with reddit-this and lemmy-that (or now threads) stuff, which is annoying because I don’t want to talk more about the platform than actually using it. But I hope this will change with some time.
I use only the browser, UX and UI is pretty straight forward, but subscribing to communities of other instances is really weird. I need to copy the “handle” (i.e. !lemmy_support), and add it manually to my instance domain (i.e. lemmy.world/c/[email protected]), and then I subscribe to it. I don’t know if there are other ways (besides finding new communities via “all”).
I’m not into the technicals of lemmy or the fediverse, but I guess this is not easily solvable, as an instance doesn’t know that I am the user of another instance.
The primary incentive that comes to mind is improved availability. Often, instances can become slow, so I use another. By hosting a local instance I could always have a smooth experience....
If you host your own instance you are your own admin. That gives you personal control over content and settings. However, you need to pay for a domain name and you need a 24/7 server so there’s some expense involved. Then there’s maintenance like software updates and user needs if you take them on.
I think most admins take on an instance simply to contribute in building the Fediverse and create something to take some pride in. You get some clout in the community for doing that.
I joined the fediverse like 2 weeks ago. I’m trying to find the answers to all my doubts reading discussions around, watching videos etc, but there are still some questions I’m looking an answer for. Here they are:...
Up to you, I would just avoid big instances like .world or .ml. People do congregate on big instances in most of the fediverse, so IDK that "professional" enters into it. It's not as if you're running a law firm on a @hotmail email address. I like hosting stuff for myself, so I am running my own instance.
For yourself you could get away with spending around $5-$10/mo, plus ~$10/yr for the domain name. More users/load would need more resources, .world is spending >$150/mo for the server(s) alone, and that will only grow as the instance grows.
Big thing would be site-wide moderation and managing federation. Dealing with reports, illegal content, communities that break server rules, users that are harassing others, etc. If you slack too much on that (or have overly lax policies) you may end up defederated by instances. Making the decision to defederate other instances. Etc.
Entirely gone.
Mostly just changes what you'd see on local. Federation can be wonky/slow at times, but that is true of federation between big instances as well, it's just something you have to get used to when using Lemmy.
If the descentralization of social networks continue, we will have to prepare for the eventual rise of the instances wars, where people will start to fight about which instance is better and which one is weird to be in and so on, but that’s for the future of us all.
@fluke in case this is not a joke, yes instances host communities, but the lemmy.world is just a domain name. Federation just means lemmy.world and another server/instance such as geddit.social can share and exchange communities, comments, and threads they host with each other. I'd be happy to answer additional questions you might have, but I'm not as expert as I don't share links in that format much.
If I understand it correctly, someone could create a “cars” community on lemmy.world and someone else could create a “cars” community on another instance. Neither community gains enough traction to take off but if they had all been one it would have worked.
That seems problematic to me. Am I understanding it wrong?
You’re not necessarily understanding it wrong, and there is a potential problem there, but I think this view focuses on the problems over the benefits that this can provide. Think about how certain communities on Reddit were the only community for their subject there, and if you didn’t like the culture of the community or the moderation, your only choice was to create your own community with some variation on their name or some clunky name like “carswithblackjackandhookers” to signal how/why your similar community existed.
Here, you have the benefit of being able to create communities around the same subject with the same name (besides the domain, e.g. @lemmy.world/lemm.ee) but with different rules and moderation to make the community as you like it. There is the possibility it means neither community takes off, for sure, but there’s also the possibility both do well enough & have distinct enough posts & conversation that you now get two communities focusing on the same subject but with a greater variety of perspectives.
I realize that latter view may be a little on the optimistic side, but tbh we saw this even on Reddit with different communities around the same subjects. If anything finding those communities was harder there thanks to them having to adopt more & more arcane names thanks to abandoned, and existing communities but with different focuses.
I want to self host my own lemmy instance for personal use. I have seen there Github page and it is really easy to set up but I have some questions?...
1: If you have it public facing with a valid SSL certificate for the domain it’s hosted at then it should work fine.
2: Yes, I have no actual communities on my own box but here I am :)
3: I’d say the biggest thing is storage for attachments if it’s the only thing running on the box. Mine is set to offload all the attachments to a separate storage box, but if the mastodon instance is any indication it could balloon to a pretty large storage amount over time.
4: It’s relatively easy and you have all the powers of an admin to shape your experience to be what you want. There’s the responsibility to deal with moderation and maintenance, but if you’re the only one using it then there’s nobody to be upset if it goes down for a bit here and there.
Fediverse is not ready yet, that’s for sure, BUT we don’t need it to be “ready” to take on big tech giant backend to be usable user dispersion. IMO, smaller but high quality user that cross critical amount to sustain the community is good enough. I don’t need to engage with another 20k people, I just need to engage with maybe 1~2000 high quality post/comment(not lurkers) in different domains that I am interested in. All the rest can have their own thing and we never really cross each other and that is fine.
What I think Fediverse currently lacking is the following:
subscription can be abused, I don’t know the underlying detail, but if one user from small instance sub to another instance that have really big traffic, I guess it won’t deal well with that. There should be ways to tier or tag posts/comments so good informative one can be kept longer, but shitpots, meme, etc can expire quicker and not even archived. We really don’t need to keep all the stuff like tech giants do. (heck, even email provider starts to trim your old emails if your account exceed certain amount of storage(cause 80% is spam/notification mail that no longer serve any purpose.)
easier way discover existing community. I really don’t like to checking “All”, search community function is updated to a bit reddit like so it’s really mixed up with post/comment and actual community. And low traffic community can be buried really far down the list. ie. I created Rocket League on lemmy.ca, and periodically searching for another to see if there are better ones. Then I found out there is none and my community link keeps “sinking” in the result list. There needs to have better filter for searching.
there should have a say, a common bestof or community of this week community. Which helps with discovery as well. (up to instance admins decision of course.)
the web interface can still be improved. One thing that’s very hard to keep track of even on reddit is how the branching thread and responses can be all over the place. It’s still kind like that here on lemmy(but less user make it more bearable. I am not smart and do not have a better alternative, I hope someone can come up with a better more readable one.
So I just started with the fediverse, I heard about it for years, but never did the real jump to go full in. For now I started with lemmy because it seems to be the easiest option. I wanted to do a small recap of tip, tricks and general usage flow....
As Lemmy starts maturing, there starts being so many communities out there that it’s pretty hard to keep track. I’ve been browsing for about a month now, here’s a list of popular communities I’ve subscribed to that others would find interesting!...
So I'm on Kbin.social right now. Let's say I wanna view our gaming community. like how Reddit has:
Reddit.com/r/Subredditname
I would go to:
kbin.social/m/magazinename
You on lemmy.world would go to:
lemmy.world/c/communityname
Super simple so far I hope lol.
Now whichever one is applicable to you (and if you're on other instances, sub in the url where appropriate.
Let's say I on kbin wanna see your gaming community. If I did kbin.social/m/gaming, I would get mine. The url though can act like how an email address does, by adding a domain to the end of it. So if I did kbin.social/m/[email protected], I'll see your gaming community. Same if you do lemmy.world/c/gaming you see yours, but lemmy.world/c/[email protected] you should see ours.
It is indeed a Mali domain, but of course people choose their domains because of their niche community - in case of .ml, it often stands for "Machine Learning". In this case I am pretty sure you are right and it is meant to represent " Marxist/Leninist" in this case, it is known that the instance admins are close to that ideology.
why can't we have federated identity ?
Why can’t we have federated identity to login into fediverse instead of creating login for each instance?
Read this post by /u/[email protected] before recommending OpenSUSE during these trying times.
Red Hat is going full evil mode and Fedora, which is largely controlled by Red Hat, is also pushing forward with questionable decisions. At this time, as some Fedora users look for a new $HOME there are many recommending OpenSUSE but before doing this, please read the post below....
If I created my own instance, what would prevent all the others not federating with mine, or is it accepted by default ?
Anyone hosting Lemmy and Mastodon on the same server?
I have Mastodon running on a VPS running Debian 11. Now I would like to add a Lemmy instance on the same server. I tried using the from scratch method from Lemmy documentation, but ran into errors that likely stemmed from minor version incompatibilities of the dependencies. I tried using the Lemmy easy deploy script but it wants...
Don't Join Threads - Make Threads Join You (www.wired.com)
Is there any self-hosted version of Microsoft's Family Safety/Parental controls? (kbin.social)
I REALLY want to get away from using all Microsoft products. My spouse and I use Linux but not for our kids just simply because I have yet to find anything that does what Microsoft Family does - being able to remotely set time limits, keep an eye on screen time stats, block websites and apps remotely, see what websites they've...
wmctrl source code - Where is it?
I want to pull the wmctrl’s latest source code for my projects, but for some reason I can’t find the git repo anywhere online, just old (5yr+) Git re-uploads....
Rant: I hate the term “normie”. (kbin.social)
Let me preface by saying, I would love to hear counter points and am fully open to the fact that I could be wrong and totally out of touch. I just want to have some dialogue around something that’s been bothering me in the fediverse....
Why Defederating from Facebook/Meta is So Important (ploum.net)
I strongly encourage instance admins to defederate from Facebook/Threads/Meta....
What should we do about Threads?
A lot of people dislike it for the privacy nightmare that it is and feel the threat of an EEE attack. This will also probably not be the last time that a big corporation will insert itself in the Fediverse....
Ready to take the plunge and spin up a Lemmy server but I'm already stuck trying to come up with a domain name.
As the title says, I’m ready to fire up a Lemmy server of my own. I have a suitable VPS running Debian 11. I think I can probably make short work of it once I get past this one difficult point. What should I call my Lemmy server? With catchy names out there like “Lemmy.World” and “sh.itjust.works”, I really want to...
Reddit Refugees on Lemmy, how are you guys liking lemmy so far?
What are the incentives for hosting a Lemmy instance?
The primary incentive that comes to mind is improved availability. Often, instances can become slow, so I use another. By hosting a local instance I could always have a smooth experience....
Fediverse questions I couldn't find the answer anywhere
I joined the fediverse like 2 weeks ago. I’m trying to find the answers to all my doubts reading discussions around, watching videos etc, but there are still some questions I’m looking an answer for. Here they are:...
If Lemmy and Mastodon continues to get popular, we will eventually get Instance wars.
If the descentralization of social networks continue, we will have to prepare for the eventual rise of the instances wars, where people will start to fight about which instance is better and which one is weird to be in and so on, but that’s for the future of us all.
Anyone want the domain name homelab.community ?
Posting to homelab and selfhosted communities: like many domain names I had ideas for, the plan did not pan out....
Do you believe Lemmy/Mastodon can become mainstream and fully replace their centralized counterparts?
What the title says. I think there is still a long way for that to happen but i’ve been hopeful. What do you think?
How to self host my own lemmy server?
I want to self host my own lemmy instance for personal use. I have seen there Github page and it is really easy to set up but I have some questions?...
So where are we all supposed to go now? (www.theverge.com)
But fediverse isn’t ready to take over yet...
Getting Lemmy right
So I just started with the fediverse, I heard about it for years, but never did the real jump to go full in. For now I started with lemmy because it seems to be the easiest option. I wanted to do a small recap of tip, tricks and general usage flow....
List of popular communities you should visit!
As Lemmy starts maturing, there starts being so many communities out there that it’s pretty hard to keep track. I’ve been browsing for about a month now, here’s a list of popular communities I’ve subscribed to that others would find interesting!...
How did Lemmy.world become more popular than Lemmy.ml?
I don’t understand how Lemmy.world developers managed to surpass both Lemmy.ml and Beehaw.org instances in user activity.