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Treczoks ,

I wonder where they are going to test those weapons. Maybe in Kyiv?

alienanimals ,

Russia has been threatening to use nukes for years. This is just fear mongering because not even Putin is dumb enough to launch a nuke.

Why9 ,

“Have you ever seen a fierce animal you were sure would never bite?” -Zoro

I just think Putin is being backed into a corner, and things are likely far more dire with inflation soaring in Russia, military supplies being replenished by the likes of Iran and N.Korea, army morale at a low point, with desertions rising, and suffering huge losses both in soldiers and equipment and having to rely on what’s at the bottom of the proverbial battle.

Someone like Putin? Might just use the Nuke and then kill himself, like a coward. I just don’t think we should take the threat of Nuclear war so lightly.

With so many -capable nations in the world now, I’m sure if a Nuke gets used once, it’ll be used many times.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

you’re missing the point

for putin the primary objective is staying in power. during his term, starting a war to drum up nationalist sentiments in order to ignore economic shitshow and decaying state apparatus worked pretty well already three times - in 1999 bombings blamed on chechens which served as a pretext for second chechen war, invasion of georgia in 2008 and invasion of donbas and crimea in 2014. it even worked for few first weeks in 2022, it just happens that he bit way too much than he could chew.

putin will try to go forward at current slow pace because backing off would be a political suicide, and escalation to nukes would be an actual suicide (there’s already nuclear bunker buster with putin’s name on it somewhere in the midwest). he won’t do either, instead he’ll try to limit western aid to prevent western escalation which would also be catastrophic to him. here you have it explained nicely with sources www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKGYnO0Jf4

Amaltheamannen ,

Reminder that the US never even signed it, so hypocritical to be angry at Russia for leaving.

echodot ,

Yes but the United States has never tested nuclear weapons after the band came in place. Russia’s actions meanwhile have the feel of a country that intends to perform a test.

Implications matter.

In the same vein the United States does not recognise the international court of human rights. But Russia’s refusal to recognise the court is entirely so they can carry out atrocities. The United States refusal to acknowledge it is because they’re stubborn.

Amaltheamannen ,

No it’s because the US refuses to answer to their own war crimes.

febra ,

Why are people getting angry over this? The US hasn’t ratified it either. China hasn’t either. Nor Israel. India hasn’t even signed it.

Just read it from the wikipedia article: states that need to take further action for the treaty to enter into force: China, Egypt, India, Iran, Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, United States

Anyway, it’s rich how people get angry now that Russia is doing exactly what the US is.

Guest_User ,

Would you be angry if Russia starts nuclear testing? Because that is what it seems their intent is. I don’t think anyone is mad about the document itself, rather what their actions signify.

febra ,

I honestly don’t care about Russia’s nuclear posturing. It’s just PR on their side. They can nuke siberia as much as they want for all I care.

LemmyIsFantastic ,

Moscow can fuck off. China and India ain’t going to tolerate that shit and it’ll open the door western and eastern operations. Nobody in the fucking East wants to deal with nuclear fallout.

bitsplease ,

Yeah China and India are tentatively siding with Russia right now, but this would put a stop to that in a hot second

Especially since there’s literally nothing to be gained beyond dick waving - it’s not like they don’t already know that their nukes work, sadly nuclear warheads are a solved technology

febra ,

I think that’s wishful thinking here. China hasn’t ratified the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty, and India hasn’t even signed it. [1] I highly suspect they care.

[1] en.wikipedia.org/…/Comprehensive_Nuclear-Test-Ban…

rambaroo ,

I think they’ll care if they have to deal with fallout from Siberia

ghostdoggtv ,

Worst case scenario, Putin finally brings lasting peace to both Russia and Israel. Best case scenario, he irradiates a huge swath of Siberia to attempt to deter China from seizing territory in the northeast.

crimsonpoodle ,

MacArthur if Truman fell out a window

Poteryashka ,

defense.gov/…/department-of-defense-announces-pur…

i_have_no_enemies OP ,

should we be scared?

FlowVoid , (edited )

I don’t know, but one thing to consider is that the treaty in question never actually came into effect because not enough countries ratified it.

The US, China, Israel, India, North Korea, and Pakistan are all nuclear powers but have not ratified the treaty. Now Russia has joined that list, leaving France and UK as the only nuclear powers that ratified it.

aodhsishaj ,

Considering the russians couldn’t maintain something as simple as tires, I’m not worried about their nuclear capabilities.

half_built_pyramids ,

They’ve treated nukes like 100s of times now. For every new technology add they’ve threatened nukes.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

no, why

ubermeisters ,
@ubermeisters@lemmy.world avatar

What a stupid fucking question.

LemmyIsFantastic ,

Are you in Asia or eastern Europe?

HotelRoom ,

Great. Hopefully he ends the war soon, with the head of the corrupt Zelenski on a plate and a party with a lot of cocaine and hookers

KevonLooney ,

Hmm… account created today, random user name, negative karma…

Just block and walk away. Don’t even vote. Block and walk away.

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Report, block, then walk away

The report is an important part to keep the community less filled with whatever they said before it got removed

BombOmOm ,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

A war of conquest cannot be won using nukes; allowing that to come to pass would result in dozens of countries arming themselves and using nukes for territorial gain. This is the reason the US has stated they will directly intervene in the war if Russia uses nukes.

Socsa ,

Who the fuck cares. This generation was born with the threat of nukes and has lived with it the whole time.

Try harder boomer.

Tammo-Korsai ,
@Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social avatar

"Don't make me nuke myself!"

HotelRoom ,

Great. Hopefully he ends the war soon, with the head of the corrupt zelenski on a plate and a party with a lot of vodka

HikingVet ,

The easiest way to end the war would be for him to withdraw behind the 2014 borders.

And then surrender to the world court.

aodhsishaj ,

Remember, do not feed the trolls people.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

He seems to be trying to end the war in record time by sending his forces to be continuously wiped out. It's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see if it pays off for him!

Tammo-Korsai ,
@Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social avatar

"I kept throwing wave after wave of my men at the kill-bots until they reached their preset kill limit."

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Narrrz ,

with how their military has performed, he needs to know yesterday if the mutually-assured-destruction scenario is still gonna be mutual, or just him.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

They've got to make sure at least one of their nukes hasn't had its components sold to buy vodka, otherwise how can they keep threatening to nuke people?

SirToxicAvenger ,

how else would he be able to prove to the Russians that he’s still a strong leader, deserving of power?

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