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Lizardking27 ,

Actually that’s allowed, google en poissant.

stringere ,

Googling “en poissant” yields “en passant” as a suggested term.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_passant

En poissant = in sticking En passant = in passing En poissant = in fish

Je suis hereux d’apprendre quelques psuedo-homonymes en francais ce jour!

Merci!

Krauerking ,

WOOOSHHH

Is the sound the pun made as it just whizzed by you.

Lizardking27 ,

Merci à vous! I do not know French, and my comment was a pun on “en passant” using the word “poison”, but I appreciate the free lesson!

stringere ,

Vous etes remerci. “You’re welcome” is literally “you are rewelcome”. :)

amansman ,

Holy nightshade!

Leate_Wonceslace ,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Actual Russian.

necromancyr ,

“I learned it by watching you, Vlad!”

some_guy OP ,

Someone grew up in the 80s.

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

What a weird way to try to poison someone. Mercury is really only poisonous under specific circumstances. Specifically, it is extremely dangerous to breath its vapors.

Touching it, or being near a small amount of it a few feet away really doesn’t do anything. It’s a safe-ish substance to make casual contact with (still not safe, but not profoundly noxious either).

There have been cases of people surviving drinking and even injecting mercury, as it isn’t toxic the way you might think it is under most circumstances.

It is still quite a dangerous thing, and using it maliciously (even if you have no idea what you’re doing) is no joke. Fortunately, the person targeted here is likely unaffected by mercury exposure.

isolatedscotch ,

should’ve used dimethylmercury

Wilzax ,

The potion of instant dementia

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

And kill everyone in the building?

CanadaPlus , (edited )

I don’t know what the exact rules are here, but if there’s no specific clause about it one surviving competitor is technically a win.

rob_t_firefly ,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

Cut to the chess judges frantically flipping through the rulebook like in Air Bud…

redhorsejacket ,

I mean, the article states that the victim did suffer some symptoms, so I wouldn’t say they were totally unaffected. If the article is accurate, would it be possible that she was inhaling vapor from the spill? The victim is quoted as saying she had to be at that board for 5 hours, and the Wikipedia article indicates that the primary danger of elemental mercury is inhalation of vapor (it claims 80% absorption rate via respiration, as opposed to the 1% via direct contact). Unfortunately, I am pretty ignorant of chemistry, so I’ve no idea if my speculation is plausible. How much room temp mercury would need to be sitting in front of you before you felt the effects of the vapor. Or even if you would at all, since the CDC website says the vapor is more dense than air.

Additionally, I noticed that one of the symptoms of mercury inhalation is cognitive impairment. Obviously this is more speculation, but perhaps the intent was not to kill, but rather to sabotage the victim’s play? After all, it seems like the perpetrator and the victim were rivals. Could be a Nancy Kerrigan-Tonya Harding situation, just more classically Russian what with the use of poison rather than brute force.

DoctorButts ,

What an imbecile. Mercury is a planet. It is too large to be hidden anywhere on a chess board

homesweethomeMrL ,

I hear it’s in Gatorade

cdf12345 ,

This comment is an underrated gem.

Bravo sir.

Bocky ,

Gators are too big to fit in the bottles, can’t be that

strawberry ,

not in microwave?

some_guy OP ,

Wrong. Mercury is a god. He’s much too powerful to do the biddings of a puny mortal.

makyo ,

You’re both wrong, it’s a car. I’m pretty crazy about one though.

perslue ,

You all were close but, still wrong. Marie Curie was a scientist.

wildncrazyguy138 ,

And that scientists name? Albert Einstein.

veloxization ,
@veloxization@yiffit.net avatar

You’re also wrong. He’s a singer known as Freddie. And I don’t know what kind of necromancy was used to get him on a chess board.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

what kind of necromancy

This whole thread is a clue about that.

The necromancers used myrrh & curry.

x4740N ,

Your wrong about that

She used mer-curry which she got from mer-people

It’s a mer-people specialty

Evil_Shrubbery ,

Is mer-curry really worth all the murmaider?
(Prob yes)

Chee_Koala ,

Marc Anthony is a singer/songwriter, pfffff.

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

Furthermore, you can’t poison a chess board. It’s only poisonous if it kills you when you eat it. That chess board is venomous.

AFC1886VCC ,

Poisoning people, pushing people out of windows, and shooting people twice in the back of the head. The holy trinity of Russian assassinations.

Angry_Autist ,

You had the chance to legitimately used ‘defenestration’ and you didn’t jump on it?!

Shou ,

No no, the point is to make someone jump on it. In this case, it was you!

Natanael ,

I’m not taking the fall!

Shou ,

No no. You see. You didn’t actually chose to jump on it, the other person made you. You have no say in the taking the fall.

ZILtoid1991 ,

They also started a misinformation campaign about a female boxer’s gender.

Th3D3k0y ,

Russian suicides you mean? Russian has never once in its history killed anyone, they died of their own accord.

aidan ,

This wasn’t assassination though, the headline is just deceptive. It was just a lone psycho in Russia trying to kill another Russian. Not an international competition, like was implied in the headline. (Or at least that’s the impression I got from the headline.

bdonvr ,

Seeing as mercury fumes are the real danger (you can fairly safely handle elemental mercury, it won’t absorb into the skin) this seems like an exceptionally poor poisoning attempt. Maybe if you put a fan behind you so the fumes only waft into the opponents face…

Hikermick ,

Yeah I have so many questions. How would both players not get poisoned? Does mercury evaporate? I played with thermometer mercury as a child, does that explain things?

Commiunism ,

These chess strategies are getting more and more creative

AlolanYoda ,

I bet all the people who said “chess is a solved game” are feeling really silly right now

vxx ,

People that say that should always feel silly because chess isn’t solved.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

FYI

endgame tablebases (strong solutions) have been found for all three- to seven-piece endgames, counting the two kings as pieces.

BeardedGingerWonder ,

So not solved then.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Correct. It is interesting to know just how unsolved.

ours ,

They’re thinking out of the box now. Or out of the board.

jaybone ,

Out of the window.

Cataphract , (edited )

Once again, 105 comments and nothing about the actual article and it’s information. Plenty of xenophobic comments against a population of a country (like the U.S. government is that great, so therefor I must be exactly like my political leaders). The Chess players had already competed against each other and the other player who was poisoned won by a default with a tie. There’s some other reporting about a confrontation between the two and they’ve known each other for years apparently.

Chessbase said the dispute was over a recent match between the two in which “both chess players scored the same number of points, but the victory was awarded to Osmanova, based on additional factors.”

Another Telegram channel says that the issue was about negative statements made by Osmanova about Abakarova and her family members.

One Russian news outlet said that the two had known each other for years but had recently fought. In this version of the story, Abakarova showed up to one recent match with a phone, which is against the rules. Osmanova was upset but did not tell the judges. “She should have been grateful to me that I didn’t make a fuss and forgave her,” Osmanova said. “Instead, Amina refused to shake my hand during the competition last week.”

Definitely not ok either way and I hope that they get a sentencing that matches the crime. This is just a bitter crazy person it seems and has nothing to do about poisoning to win a match. Love the disconnect on the sports world and rampant cheating like it doesn’t exist everywhere lol.

edit: some grammar

RubyRhod ,

…guy fucking lemms.

ArugulaZ ,

Between this, the antisemitism of Bobby Fischer, and the guy cheating with the power of teledildonics, I have to wonder what the hell is up with chess players.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nice to see an instance of my favorite word in the wild.

AnxiousOtter ,

Teledildonics?

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Good guess.

volvoxvsmarla ,

Should I be scared to google it?

photonic_sorcerer ,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You might like what you find.

volvoxvsmarla ,

This sounds like a mini threat

Edit: holy macaroni the future is now

Ulfhethnar ,

The only murder in Antarctica was a Russian killing somrone with an ice ax over a game of chess.

CanadaPlus ,

The Russians did it again in 2018, apparently. This time either over a rude comment or a book spoiler.

naevaTheRat ,
@naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Hmmm lets examine this statement.

Isolated weird place, scary Russians, Russian stereotypes of intellectual game + tremendous violence.

Gee, it almost sounds like this is a too convenient racist lie. Any proof? The oldest reference just says ‘it totally happened’ and cites something I can’t access on Google books. It’s 20 years after the fact and not a primary source.

TranscendentalEmpire ,

Hell hath no fury like a competitive nerd being put on a pedestal.

I think this happens a lot anytime someone who perceives themselves as being shunned by society gets too much positive feedback and an iota of power over people.

I think its the same reason why every nerdy twitch streamer ends up being outed as an abusive child predator.

umbraroze ,

Intercepted message:

No no no no no no.

You throw the board out of the window.

The opponent goes “Oh no! My board!” and runs after it.

You have failed the basic training, agent.

ZeffSyde ,

Self defenstration! Genius.

phoenixz ,

What is it with Russian athletes (being it mental or physical) just always cheating so much that at this point it’s just expected?

Would it have anything to do with living in a dictatorship with a leader who always needs to be perceived as the best with the best countryband the best people because of his policies?

drunkpostdisaster ,

Its pretty common practice to cheat. Jon Jones has been getting away with cheating for years.

theacharnian ,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

Russia has enough of a population that crazies pop up. Think Florida man.

tleb ,

Probably because they were raised in the post-Soviet mafia era.

Bluefalcon ,

Season 2 of The Queen’s Gambit sounds crazy.

Socsa ,

Mad Max crossover confirmed

Socsa , (edited )

Tankies: is this critical support?

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

russians prove they can’t win anything legitimately

circuscritic ,

…this was a regional tournament, in the Caucasus Republic of Dagestan.

So calling them Russian is technically accurate, but really they are a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia.

Also, you’ll find this kind of crazy anywhere you go. She literally just dumped mercury around her opponents chess board when she thought no one was around to notice.

I get why it’s catching headlines, but give me a break. It’s just crazy being crazy.

HomerianSymphony ,

So calling them Russian is technically accurate

The word Russian has two meanings in English. It can mean relating to the country of Russia, or relating to the Rus ethnicity.

The Russian language distinguishes the two. The first is росси́йский. The second is ру́сский. Both words are translated as “Russian” in English, which causes confusion in English, but there’s no such confusion in Russian.

These people (Dagestanis) are Russian in the first sense, but not the second sense.

Historically, the second sense of “Russian” included Ukrainians and Belarussians (so you could say Ukrainians were Russian in the second sense, but not the first sense) but it’s become controversial to do so since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Chee_Koala ,

Interesting! thanks for elaborating. A week or month ago, a local Ukrainski politician, I thought it was a lady person, proclaimed that using the Russian language the invaders use is like spitting in the face of your home country. She got a hell of a lot of pushback on that. That made it seem that a lot of locals still prefer Russian to Ukrainian language. Can you shed some light on those conflicting sentiments?

Was inspired to educate myself a bit extra on Cyrillic script, so, from the english wiki:

"As of 2011, around 252 million people in Eurasia use it as the official alphabet for their national languages. About half of them are in Russia. " … "The Slavic languages are conventionally (that is, also on the basis of extralinguistic features) divided into three subgroups: East, South, and West, which together constitute more than 20 languages. Of these, 10 have at least one million speakers and official status as the national languages of the countries in which they are predominantly spoken: Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian (of the East group), Polish, Czech and Slovak (of the West group), Bulgarian and Macedonian (eastern members of the South group), and Serbo-Croatian and Slovene (western members of the South group) "

circuscritic ,

I can only approach this from the English language, which is why I said technically correct. But I also feel the article should have done a lot better job explaining that they were Dagestani, which is not unreasonable as if this had happened in Chechnya, it would have said Chechen.

Also, I have never seen Russian used interchangeably with Ukrainian, or Belarusian, before or after, 2014. But again, maybe that’s just my English language only bias.

That said, I do appreciate you writing on the explainer for other users who aren’t familiar with the status of, or distinction between Russia and the Caucasus.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

they are a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia

TBF even Russia is a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia.

Mango ,

Dina would like a word.

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

who?

Mango ,

youtu.be/AdGMUA-lGAM

Klear ,

Yeah! Take that Kasparov! You can’t win anything!

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Very not true, Kaspersky® just won a legitimate label as malware.

MP3Martin ,
@MP3Martin@programming.dev avatar

Kasperskyⓜⓐⓛⓦⓐ®ⓔ

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Except maybe the competition for most war crimes committed, but they are closely rivaled by the Israeli fascists

feedum_sneedson ,

she cute

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