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minorkeys ,

If you want a robot then hire a robot!

We’re trying. We aren’t quite there yet. Just keep suffering for a feeew more years, then you won’t have to worry about our micromanaging.

orl0pl ,

It’s good that Amazon is not dominant in Poland.

Banik2008 ,

Allegro really is much better for many things. I find myself using it much more than Amazon nowadays.

boonhet ,

It’s not dominant here in Estonia either, but neither is there a clear alternative. But maybe that’s a good thing, you can still order your things from different online retailers rather than relying on just one

bamfic ,

Wear a mask

Anticorp ,

No. Fight these assholes passing these policies just so they can save a few pennies on insurance.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Wear a mask printed with your own face.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Oh no, the camera lens broke! Oh well 🤷‍♂️

Seriously though, as a software engineer, this is some grade A USDA choice bullshit. The solution isn’t “don’t move your mouth”. The solution is fix the fucking ML training set.

Bertz ,

No, the solution is to throw all that machine vision micro-managing shit away. It belongs in the factory sorting goods.

gravitas_deficiency ,

Well, yeah, but I’m not here to do an RCA - I’m just calling out the fact that they’re treating the symptom, but it’s the wrong symptom that’s being treated.

memfree ,
@memfree@lemmy.ml avatar

Exactly! In fact ENCOURAGE singing to get a better data set for fixing the software!

NauticalNoodle ,

I mean Amazon started it’s driving program to undercut UPS -A union shop. How is this not just scabs getting their comeuppance?

xantoxis ,

Did you really just blame the drivers for this?

NauticalNoodle , (edited )

The non-union drivers in cooperation with Amazon* actively undermined another established union. Sure, yeah. I’d say until they organize or shut-down, they can share some of the blame.

There is no game-changing paradigm shift to Amazons delivery driver business model. It was always simply to undercut an established middle-man that already had unionized. It’s just deregulation & union-busting with an extra degree of separation. It’s disappointing that so many laborers don’t recognize this.

InternetUser2012 ,

I love driving. I’ve had delivery jobs and I really enjoyed them. There is absolutely no fucking way I’m working for anyone that has a fucking camera pointed at me. That is some fucking bullshit. I can’t believe anyone works for that shit hole company and puts up with that garbage. No camera, no microphone. I’ll do my job. If you don’t trust me to do my job, then it’s best for the both of us I’m not there.

I understand needing a job. I’ve been there. Don’t put up with that bullshit, unionize, or find something else. There’s jobs out there much better.

On a side note, If you drove holding the steering wheel with your middle fingers out, what kind of punishment would that be?

AngryCommieKender ,

On a side note, If you drove holding the steering wheel with your middle fingers out, what kind of punishment would that be?

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

MutilationWave ,

I’ve got a camera in my work truck. I hate it but I can’t make this much money anywhere else. I was actually sent for a drug and alcohol test a few weeks ago because I kept dozing off while I was sitting in the truck on break. I passed because I was nice and charming to the young girl giving the test. The only thing I popped on was weed anyway.

The reason I was nodding off in the truck is I was fucking exhausted from making them a shitload of money.

omarfw ,

I pray for the downfall of Amazon.

patacon_pisao ,

It amazes me how they go great lengths to piss off both consumers and their workers to maximize profits

LadyMeow ,

Why? Theyre making gobs of money anyway. How many people car? Everyone keeps using it anyway. Just good business at this point

Anticorp ,

They are the size of a world power, and they have their hands in everything. They’re not falling any time soon.

_sideffect ,

“What? No I wasn’t singing, I just kept saying “FUCK YOU BEZOS” during my trips”

Banik2008 ,

Jeff Bezos hasn’t been CEO of Amazon for a few years. Now it’s that bland twat Andy Jassy, who has all of the fascism but none of the intelligence of his predecessor.

Rooskie91 ,

Why spend all the money union busting then do shit like this. Won’t this just starts another round of unionization?

TokenBoomer ,

We’re not far from incurring debts from suicides that our families will have to repay.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Not sure if you think those don’t exist

TokenBoomer ,

That moment when you realize that dystopian future you’re imagining already exist.

Fosheze ,

They don’t at least in most of the western world you can’t inherit debt. It all comes out of the estate and if the estate isn’t worth enough then the lenders are out of luck. Now that doesn’t mean that unscrupulous lenders won’t try to go after the family but legally they don’t have a leg to stand on as long as you don’t start paying them. At least in the US if you pay them anything then they can take that to court as you agreeing to pick up the debt but if you just tell them to go pound sand then they can’t do anything.

Anticorp ,

They spent all that money union busting so they can do shit like this.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh man…I want labor to have a massive comeback so soon, absolutely put the screws to the corpo scum.

roofuskit ,

I’m going to wager this was implemented to keep drivers from talking on the phone all day and because it’s using machine vision it doesn’t know the difference.

MutilationWave ,

Exactly what I was thinking. I wish I was an extrovert. I enjoy the occasional phone call but mostly I just wish I could hang up, even with friends.

My main USPS worker talks on the phone at all times. I see her every weekend and she is NEVER not excitedly or angrily talking on her earbuds. I bet it makes work a lot better for her but holy shit who can just talk on the phone literally all day long.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

When we eating the rich? I’m pretty hungry.

blindbunny ,

Starved even

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Perhaps even peckish.

undergroundoverground ,

Positively famished, myself

pingveno ,

I’m sorry, that’s too much mouth movement. You are now on probation.

spirinolas ,

We should keep mouth movement to a minimum so…chew the rich with your mouth closed.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Maybe we could make a fine paste. Space program style, and just squeeze it into a closed mouth.

Soylent Gold is rich people.

spirinolas ,

Eat the rich with a straw!

catloaf ,

Drink the rich?

TodaviaTyler ,

I will maliciously comply!

Burninator05 ,

Just make sure you’re either not driving or somehow learn how to eat without using your mouth.

catloaf ,

Boof the rich

Agent641 ,

You dont need to wait for everyone else to say grace, you can start now.

Octospider ,

Well if you’re ordering food… I’d like to order one large Bezos with extra Musk, please. Wait, make that Buffet… no no, Gates. With Branson on half.

MedicPigBabySaver ,

Set the goddamn table!

srecko ,

It’s 1964, you read this in a short story. You think its funny impossible distopia.

CptEnder ,

Phillip K Dick would be out of a job in 2024.

Nommer ,

I have a drive cam for work that dies something similar. While they don’t ding us for singing, they will for everything else like us scratching our ear because it thinks there’s an earpiece and we can’t have any electronic devices including GPS. But the camera screaming “FOLLOWING DISTANCE” every time we get cut off or a car 3 semi truck lengths away in 25 taps their brakes and forcing us to slam the brakes so we don’t get written up is perfectly safe.

nnullzz ,

This is absolutely terrible and definitely feels like an invasion of, idk, being a human?! But with that said, even though people find out stuff like this happens to drivers and workers, they still enable it by ordering from Amazon because of convenience.

Until we can pull away on our reliance on these services, the companies are just gonna keep crossing more and more lines because they know they’re getting away with it with their customers.

TheSambassador ,

Until we can make crossing those lines painful for those companies, they’ll keep doing it. Unfortunately, I think convenience is always going to beat morality if you leave it to “voting with your dollar”, we need actual regulations from our governments to combat this shit.

WarlordSdocy ,

It’s just that most people just genuinely don’t care enough about what’s happening to other people enough to do anything beyond just saying that Amazon is bad. On top of that as Amazon starts to drive other stores out of business it does start to slowly become the only choice for getting certain things. So with those two combined expecting personal consumer choice to really make a difference is not realistic, this is the kind of thing that needs the government to intervene on to force Amazon to unionize and to potentially break it up like is being discussed with Google.

TokenBoomer ,

If the workforce was 100% unionized, they may realize they don’t need bosses. There’s a word for this, but I can’t think of it right now.

bufalo1973 ,
@bufalo1973@lemmy.ml avatar

If it’s step 1, cooperatives. If it’s step 2, communism.

TokenBoomer ,

Yeah, we should totally stop eating to show the grocery stores they can’t control their employees. /s

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