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Emperor OP , in Chinese giant Chery could build cars in UK
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Sounds like they are hinting that the UK government should sweeten the deal.

mannycalavera ,
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They probably should. They sweeten every other car maker deal in the UK why not this one? Pssssh it’s like they don’t even want jobs 😋.

Emperor OP , in Ticketmaster to be investigated by watchdog over 'dynamic pricing' of Oasis tickets
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Some people have said Oasis agreed to this, the band have released a statement saying they didn’t know about it, although their management and promoters did sign up to it “to help keep general ticket prices down as well as reduce touting”.

Doomsider ,

Ahh yes, the old stop scalpers by becoming scalpers trick!

Mex , in Term-time holiday fine rise won't stop us, say parents
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High attendance is important… 100% attendance is not.

Hossenfeffer , in Fish and chips price rise tops UK takeaways
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And yet, here am I, contemplating a 280 mile round trip tomorrow to initiate my daughter into the utter delight that is a Sheffield fishcake butty. If you know, you know. Sheffield fishcakes make other fishcake weep at their inadequacy.

essell ,

You know that old saying “if a fish cries in the ocean, does it make a sound?”

Hossenfeffer ,
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It does if it’s going to end up in any other kind of fishcake!

10_0 ,

Gonna have to make a trip down to try them!

Hossenfeffer , (edited )
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We just got back home. We set off a bit after 09:00, got to Sheffield just after 12:00, had our fishcake butties, drove around some of my old student haunts, drove out to Ladybower Reservoir so my daughter could see a little of how beautiful the peak district is, then bombed home.

Her verdict on a 6 hour round trip to eat a fishcake butty: “Worth it.”

My advice: go lots of salt and vinegar. Then add some more vinegar.

Hossenfeffer , in How climate crisis made this UK summer feel like a letdown
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For me it’s not about the actual temperature it’s about the dependability of the weather.

When I was a kid, cough-cough years ago, summer was weeks of decent weather. It might not have had the temperature extremes we’re seeing now but it was warm and sunny for weeks. Glorious, long weeks.

Now it feels like you can’t even plan a barbecue because it might be nice or it might be absolutely shitting down with rain.

GreatAlbatross , in Government should “urgently” legalise e-scooters says shared transport charity - says serious safety incidents are rare
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This seems like a good first step.
Move them out of the “technically illegal, but lots of people use them anyway” area, and into the “legal to use, but you have to register and carry some form of insurance”.

UrbonMaximus ,

Are you going to apply the same rules to pedal assist bikes? Or are you planning to single out e-scooters only, like tfl did for some reason?

GreatAlbatross ,
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Honestly, I might even extend it to push bikes.

And make it so inexpensive to get the insurance that there is no excuse.

ladfrombrad ,
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It’s something that’s irking me.

I’ve been a bicyclist, car driver, drive for a living and also have a VSett that goes a steady 35mph max which means I can lane check but, because I can’t fugging insure the thing means I’m always looking over my shoulder if I need to dump some keen eager copper.

I’m starting to think of selling it so I can get a eBike Surron instead and blend in with the local wildlife around here.

GreatAlbatross ,
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If you give people a reasonable, legal way to do things, people will generally do them.
And the odd twat doing 30mph on the pavement is much more obvious, rather than blending in with people who would otherwise be following the laws.

ladfrombrad ,
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I think one thing that’s missing from the equation is testing and licensing to ride/drive them.

I know it’s an English forum here but you need to have a set of cojones to “drive” an escoot/EUC on our roads and I only use it to travel the short distance to work.

I’ve gone down arterial roads suited up with live Bradford traffic, and it’s not for the faint of heart lemmi tell ya :/

echodot ,

I wish the cycling proficiency test was a legal requirement to ride a bicycle.

There are so many people who drive dangerously and use bad cyclists as an excuse. You know the ones who decide that traffic lights don’t apply to them, and the ones that ride on the pavement at 20 mph and knock over little old ladies.

GreatAlbatross ,
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I get the feeling that in the past, the effort required to cycle self-selected people a bit.
Now with cheap assisted bikes, it’s easier than ever to become a 100KG object travelling at 20mph.
So maybe it should have more requirements, in a “greater good” kinda way.

Kinda like when drones took off (heh). The rules for how to use model aircraft needed refining, because the barrier to flying a 2KG object near an airport became much lower.

echodot , in Outrage as fundraiser launched for family of Bristol rioter who attacked police

How does raising money help? He’s already been sentenced, so it’s not going to go in for legal defenses. And he’s a dangerous individual and therefore unlikely to be eligible for parole.

Seems like a great big nothing burger really.

Also where did his idiot friend come up with 1 grand from? That is not a large amount of money.

Emperor OP ,
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It’s for his family.

obelix ,
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Seems to just be the standard grift by the family to try and pocket some free money.

Baggins ,

To you maybe.

echodot ,

No it’s not a large amount of money to anyone. We all live in the same economy we all have to pay for the same basic things. It’s less 1 months minimum wage. Seems like a very strangely picked limit likely by chosen by someone that doesn’t actually know the value of money and thinks it’s a lot.

Baggins ,

It’s a lot of money if you haven’t got any.

Don’t agree with that fundraiser though. They may just have wanted a new iPhone.

echodot , in Drunken woman defecated on police officer who tried to put her in handcuffs

Arr, youth.

Hestia , in Drunken woman defecated on police officer who tried to put her in handcuffs
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I didn’t need to see what comm it was to know they were briish

echodot ,

Was the sub a clue?

carl_dungeon , in Labour MPs begin quitting X over ‘hate and disinformation’

People still use twitter?

13esq ,

People used twitter?

Wanderer , in Britain ignored its far-right threat and demonized Muslims. Now racist mobs have spiraled out of control.

No one on this website what’s to live in reality. Look you might want to disagree with peoples views but you can’t disagree with what peoples views are.

Consistently since records began British people have wanted less immigration.

The way democracy works is the people get a say on their future. But consistently they have been ignored. For a lot of people Brexit was a vote on reducing immigration and that was ignored immigration went up.

People are obviously sick of being ignored they have consistently voted for the party talking the most about reducing immigration and they didn’t do anything.

People are getting desperate that democracy isn’t working.

People look at how certain cities have completed changed and they do not want that. People do not want Muslim values yet we have them. The influence of Islam in 2024 is way higher than anyone could have imagined from pre 2000. Britain somehow went from religion being less important to people to now it becoming more important.

Attacking people because they are X isnt right. But let’s not pretend this has come out of nowhere. It’s been bubbling for decades.

HumanPenguin ,
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Consistently since records began British people have wanted less immigration.

Immigration laws only applied to the UK from the 1970s.

And even at that point it was never a majority that rejected immigration. There was a high anti German immigration movement before the first World War. But far from a majority of people cared.

And at every point where attitudes to immigration was increasing. Economic issues were also connected.

The majority of anti immigration event in UK history can very easily be linked to increases in the opinions being shared by newspapers owned and funded by wealthy production owners trying to silence working/poor people showing opposition to them.

Wanderer ,

I was on about views of immigration

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/05c72b01-74aa-402f-9b58-9f05d22bd886.jpeg

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/1bea7380-282f-496b-b659-10bff2d61f44.jpeg

It did dip for a time, depending on the data, but its obviously going back up.

HumanPenguin ,
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Then don’t use terms like “records began” because that goes back to the beginning of the written word. Amd clearly since the invention of the printing press. 1960s is very recent.

Also any polling is entirly manipulatable by the questions asked. Non of the polls you post are entirly unbiased. And have been used by the very currupt press from the dawn of mass advertising.

Wanderer ,

When records began on that topic.

You got anything older I’d like to see it actually.

Etterra ,

You know that immigration is the only thing that’s preventing a population decline in America and mitigating or demographic deterioration. How’s England doing on that front? Let’s see:

…ox.ac.uk/…/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-populat…

Official figures projected that the UK’s population would grow from 67 million in 2021 to 77 million in 2046, and that net migration would account for 92% of this growth. In an alternative variant where net migration was zero, the population would be lower in 2031 than it was in 2021.

So unless they want to stare down the barrel of demographic collapses like China, Japan, and South Korea currently are, the right-wing Brits better suck it up and welcome their new neighbors. Otherwise the economy and all the government services that if pays for are going to collapse under the load of too many pensions and medical expenses, and not enough tax revenue to pay for them.

Wanderer ,

We are talking about the UK here not England, so let’s get that right. You even linked to a study about the UK! Or would you like to talk about England? But it doesn’t have it’s own immigration policy. Bad start, really doesn’t look like you know anything.

Do you know how overpopulated the UK is? I don’t think people want it increasing by 10 million in 25 years. If it increased by 800,000 I’m sure people would prefer that.

This is so much money held up in housing that a population decline would free up discretionary income. Reduced immigration could instead cause increased wages and force businesses to train more local workers which would take strain off government services.

Don’t for a moment think I don’t understand there is pros and cons to immigration. But I don’t think the UK wants 9 million immigrants from the 3rd world. Is if had a choice between reducing GDP (which is actually not the be all and end all) and decreasing immigration, or increasing GDP by reducing wages and increasing housing by immigration. I’ll take the first one.

Give the UK a choice. I’ll be poorer for less immigration because culture, housing, safety more space is more important to me than GDP growrh

steel_nomad ,

Then the British govt should be heavily incentivizing White Brits to have more children. They used to that in Canada, they called it a 'Baby Bonus". So tell me again why we “need” all this immigration again when we could just solve the problem ourselves?

Tagger ,

Ok racist.

steel_nomad ,

Lol!

yesman ,

There is nothing more British than having their Island invaded, conquered, and foreign culture imposed.

The Anglos, Saxons, and Jutes, were German. The Normans were French Vikings. You know the reason William had a claim is because he was related to the very British King named Cnut.

I would advise British people concerned about immigration to look to the example of Ireland, India, Pakistan, Palestine, and South Africa who maintained a distinct national culture despite being colonized by a violent and criminal nation bent on imposing it’s own culture.

Wanderer ,

That’s probably why there are so many countries in the UK isn’t there? Because of a long history going back 1000’s of years. Maybe that’s entirely different to 1’s of years don’t you think?

I think most people think French and Germans integrate a lot better into the UK than people from the third world. We don’t have cities that are know for all speaking French, or other cities where people walk around in Lederhosen. Not all immigration is the same.

Need to look at Ireland really? No countries within the UK need to be looked at. Ireland is completely distinct from all other counties in the UK?

Ireland, India, Pakistan, Palestine. What percentage of foreign born people live there? Even south Africa will have low foreign born population right?

Ireland had riots about migrants last year didn’t they?

You think Palestine and South Africa are good examples of what a country should want to become?

JustARaccoon ,

Wasn’t the UK one of the founding members of the EU?

Wanderer ,

No it wasn’t.

steel_nomad ,

100% agreed. You are being down voted by smoothbrain Lefties who don’t understand reality anymore. And as for religion being less important, you’ve got that all wrong…only White, Conservative religions is Christian and Catholic, are becoming less important. In my town, the are literally bulldozing churches to build condos, while building mosques. They are eliminating the White race in our own countries, and drooling Lemmyites are cheering for it.

todd_bonzalez ,
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🎶White Genocide🎶

🎵ba, ba, ba🎵

🎶Good times never seemed so good🎶

aleph , (edited )
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It’s ironic you mention ‘reality’, since the hysteria surround immigration is largely based on misinformation and xenophobic propaganda being spouted by right-wing politicians and media for well over a decade. This has led to a highly distorted view of the scale and severity of the issue.

First off, the mass migration of peoples seeking refuge from war and other geopolitical disasters is a global issue rather than something that is unique to the UK, but even then the UK has taken in far fewer asylum seekers relative to other EU countries.

For instance:

Also, the UK population is actually pretty positive when it comes to immigration:

  • In a global survey, 55% of UK citizens said immigration was a net positive, and only 30% were in favor of strict limits.

The paranoia about immigrants causing higher crime rates is also based on a myth:

All this is to say that a lot of the anger inflaming these racists riots come from a combination of political and media misinformation and many people’s innate prejudice towards non-Europeans.

Wanderer ,

I’m not denying this isn’t a problem all across Europe. A united front on this matter is the only way to solve it.

You are just taking asylum and illegal migration. Legal migration is a huge issue also. But I agree the media focuses on this a lot less and it spinning the narrative. But people want less legal and illegal migration. Legal migration is numerically the larger of the two.

Grouping immigration as all the same is problematic. Separate it by things like country and education and I bet the picture changes entirely.

But everything you said is not the whole picture. People do not want immigration they may produce less crime you might be right. But that’s not the whole picture. It doesn’t mean people want Muslim culture in the UK they want British culture. Immigrants coming over and integrating completely is not the same as generations of people coming over and not integrating.

aleph , (edited )
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But as I noted above, the average UK citizen is not in favor of strict immigration controls (legal or otherwise) and certainly not supportive of the recent riots.

Of those who are, the majority comes from lower-income areas that suffered the most under years of Tory austerity, which is understandable. But even then it’s really a case of the socioeconomic elites pointing the finger at immigrants rather than themselves.

https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.ifunny.co%2Fimages%2Fd811c4eee793f8b993f5f57bf18b36b4f07a40e4a45f713ff5f8db84cebbe5cd_1.jpg

As for the Muslim community, again there is good evidence to suggest that a lot of the fears you mentioned are unfounded. Surveys have shown that most feel that they belong in Britain and have no objections to integrating with the culture.

Again, the problem you tend to find is that extremists like Anjem Choudary are amplified by the press, giving the impressions that the Muslim community is incompatible with British values, when in fact the vast majority disagree with that statement.

Wanderer ,

Immigration as a whole is a different matter to controlled immigration. Ask people if they want more immigration from Australia or from Africa and the middle east and see what’s comes up.

Immigration has been worse for working class people and Tories have been bad for them (they also caused a lot of the low wage immigration). Both statements can be true.

At lot of rich people and business owners have done well from immigration I won’t deny. They haven’t seen the issues and they are telling people who have the issues not to worry.

I’m not sure what you want from that photo. I think immigration should be allowed but I don’t think we should be bringing in poor people to do poor peoples jobs for a low wage. Yea the rich immigrant should give to the local. But it doesn’t mean a local should give to a rich immigrant, no country is responsible for the lives of every person in the world.

Go to places with high immigration level (even second and third generation) and tell me they have integrated fully into the UK. It’s like an entirely different country. But it doesn’t happen with Germans, or French, or Aussies.

Go look up British Muslim values of women, or homosexuals or marrying your cousin.

Hossenfeffer , in Elon Musk shares fake news about England rioters being sent to Falklands
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What a silly bunt.

wewbull , in Royal Mint opens factory in south Wales to recover gold from e-waste

…but not any other materials? Sounds wasteful.

Darkard , in Thames, Yorkshire and Northumbrian Water face £168m fines for sewage spills

That just half year profit for Yorkshire water alone.

Lifebandit666 , in Ticketmaster to be investigated by watchdog over 'dynamic pricing' of Oasis tickets

Kick back, watch it crumble

See the drowning

Watch the fall

I feel just terrible about it

That’s sarcasm, let it burn

I’m gonna make a toast when it falls apart

I’m gonna raise my glass above my heart

Then someone shouts, “That’s what they get”

For all the years of hit-and-run

For all the piss broke bands on VH-1

Where did all their money go?

Don’t we all know?

Parasitic music industry

omgitsaheadcrab ,

Flying to LA for their final concert. Instead I could have watched Oasis for the same price… lol

Lifebandit666 ,

Either way you’re paying lots of money to watch a man sing that can’t sing. At least with NOFX he wears a tutu too

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