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DogPeePoo ,

Wall Street has already milked “the pump” now they short it and put out articles like this

Ilovethebomb ,

I’ve noticed people have been talking less and less about AI lately, particularly online and in the media, and absolutely nobody has been talking about it in real life.

The novelty has well and truly worn off, and most people are sick of hearing about it.

ultranaut ,

The hype is still percolating, at least among the people I work with and at the companies of people I know. Microsoft pushing Copilot everywhere makes it inescapable to some extent in many environments, there’s people out there who have somehow only vaguely heard of ChatGPT and are now encountering LLMs for the first time at work and starting the hype cycle fresh.

gravitas_deficiency ,

It’s like 3D TVs, for a lot of consumer applications tbh

marx2k ,

Oh fuck that’s right, that was a thing.

Goddamn

Cryophilia ,

3D has been a thing every 15 years or so

vk6flab ,
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

A.I., Assumed Intelligence

dinckelman ,

More like PISS, a Plagiarized Information Synthesis System

givesomefucks ,

Well, they also kept telling investors all they need to simulate a human brain was to simulate the amount of neurons in a human brain…

The stupidly rich loved that, because they want computer backups for “immortality”. And they’d dump billions of dollars into making that happen

About two months ago tho, we found out that the brain uses microtubules in the brain to put tryptophan into super position, and it can maintain that for like a crazy amount of time, like longer than we can do in a lab.

The only argument against a quantum component for human consciousness, was people thought there was no way to have even just get regular quantum entanglement in a human brain.

We’ll be lucky to be able to simulate that stuff in 50 years, but it’s probably going to be even longer.

Every billionaire who wanted to “live forever” this way, just got aged out. So they’ll throw their money somewhere else now.

half_built_pyramids ,

I used to follow the Penrose stuff and was pretty excited about QM as an explanation of consciousness. If this is the kind of work they’re reaching at though. This is pretty sad. It’s not even anything. Sometimes you need to go with your gut, and my gut is telling me that if this is all the QM people have, consciousness is probably best explained by complexity.

ask.metafilter.com/…/Is-this-paper-on-quantum-pro…

Completely off topic from ai, but got me curious about brain quantum and found this discussion. Either way, AI still sucks shit and is just a shortcut for stealing.

givesomefucks ,

That’s a social media comment from some Ask Yahoo knockoff…

Like, this isn’t something no one is talking about, you don’t have to solely learn about that from unpopular social media sites (including my comment).

I don’t usually like linking videos, but I’m feeling like that might work better here

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa2Kpkksf3k

But that PBS video gives a really good background and then talks about the recent discovery.

Jordan117 ,

some Ask Yahoo knockoff…

AskMeFi predated Yahoo Answers by several years (and is several orders of magnitude better than it ever was).

givesomefucks ,

And that linked accounts last comment was advocating for Biden to stage a pre-emptive coup before this election…

www.metafilter.com/activity/306302/…/mefi/

It doesn’t matter if it was created before Ask Yahoo or if it’s older.

It’s random people making random social media comments, sometimes stupid people make the rare comment that sounds like they know what they’re talking about. And I already agreed no one had to take my word on it either.

But that PBS video does a really fucking good job explaining it.

Cuz if I can’t explain to you why a random social media comment isn’t a good source, I’m sure as shit not going to be able to explain anything like Penrose’s theory on consciousness to you.

Jordan117 , (edited )

It doesn’t matter if it was created before Ask Yahoo or if it’s older.

It does if you’re calling it a “knockoff” of a lower-quality site that was created years later, which was what I was responding to.

edit: btw, you’ve linked to the profile of the asker of that question, not the answer to it that /u/half_built_pyramids quoted.

givesomefucks ,

Great.

So the social media site is older than I thought, and the person who made the comment on that site is a lot stupider than it seemed.

Like, Facebooks been around for about 20 years. Would you take a link to a Facebook comment over PBS?

Jordan117 ,

My man, I said nothing about the science or the validity of that comment, just that it’s wrong to call Ask MetaFilter “some Ask Yahoo knockoff”. If you want to get het up about an argument I never made, you do you.

masterspace ,

Thank fucking god.

I got sick of the overhyped tech bros pumping AI into everything with no understanding of it…

But then I got way more sick of everyone else thinking they’re clowning on AI when in reality they’re just demonstrating an equal sized misunderstanding of the technology in a snarky pessimistic format.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

As I job-hunt, every job listed over the past year has been “AI-drive [something]” and I’m really hoping that trend subsides.

AdamEatsAss ,

“This is an mid level position requiring at least 7 years experience developing LLMs.” -Every software engineer job out there.

figjam ,

That was cloud 7 years ago and blockchain 4

macrocephalic ,

Yeah, I’m a data engineer and I get that there’s a lot of potential in analytics with AI, but you don’t need to hire a data engineer with LLM experience for aggregating payroll data.

utopiah ,

there’s a lot of potential in analytics with AI

I’d argue there is a lot of potential in any domain with basic numeracy. In pretty much any business or institution somebody with a spreadsheet might help a lot. That doesn’t necessarily require any Big Data or AI though.

EldritchFeminity ,

Reminds me of when I read about a programmer getting turned down for a job because they didn’t have 5 years of experience with a language that they themselves had created 1 to 2 years prior.

simplejack ,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

I’m more annoyed that Nvidia is looked at like some sort of brilliant strategist. It’s a GPU company that was lucky enough to be around when two new massive industries found an alternative use for graphics hardware.

They happened to be making pick axes in California right before some prospectors found gold.

And they don’t even really make pick axes, TSMC does. They just design them.

Zarxrax ,

They didn’t just “happen to be around”. They created the entire ecosystem around machine learning while AMD just twiddled their thumbs. There is a reason why no one is buying AMD cards to run AI workloads.

masterspace ,

Go ahead and design a better pickaxe than them, we’ll wait…

mycodesucks ,
@mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar

Go ahead and design a better pickaxe than them, we’ll wait…

Same argument:

“He didn’t earn his wealth. He just won the lottery.”

“If it’s so easy, YOU go ahead and win the lottery then.”

masterspace ,

My fucking god.

“Buying a lottery ticket, and designing the best GPUs” totally the same thing, amiriteguys???"

mycodesucks , (edited )
@mycodesucks@lemmy.world avatar

In the sense that it’s a matter of being in the right place at the right time, yes. Exactly the same thing. Opportunities aren’t equal - they disproportionately effect those who happen to be positioned to take advantage of them. If I’m giving away a free car right now to whoever comes by, and you’re not nearby, you’re shit out of luck. If AI didn’t HAPPEN to use massively multi-threaded computing, Nvidia would still be artificial scarcity-ing themselves to price gouging CoD players. The fact you don’t see it for whatever reason doesn’t make it wrong. NOBODY at Nvidia was there 5 years ago saying “Man, when this new technology hits we’re going to be rolling in it.” They stumbled into it by luck. They don’t get credit for forseeing some future use case. They got lucky. That luck got them first mover advantage. Intel had that too. Look how well it’s doing for them. Nvidia’s position over AMD in this space can be due to any number of factors… production capacity, driver flexibility, faster functioning on a particular vector operation, power efficiency… hell, even the relationship between the CEO of THEIR company and OpenAI. Maybe they just had their salespeople call first. Their market dominance likely has absolutely NOTHING to do with their GPU’s having better graphics performance, and to the extent they are, it’s by chance - they did NOT predict generative AI, and their graphics cards just HAPPEN to be better situated for SOME reason.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

His engineers built it, he didn’t do anything there

utopiah ,

They just design them.

It’s not trivial though. They also managed to lock dev with CUDA.

That being said I don’t think they were “just” lucky, I think they built their luck through practices the DoJ is currently investigating for potential abuse of monopoly.

lone_faerie ,

The tech bros had to find an excuse to use all the GPUs they got for crypto after they bled that dry

potentiallynotfelix ,

I don’t think AI is ever going to completely disappear, but I think we’ve hit the barrier of usefulness for now.

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