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nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Can we please get rid of the tech bros too?

givesomefucks ,

Well, they also kept telling investors all they need to simulate a human brain was to simulate the amount of neurons in a human brain…

The stupidly rich loved that, because they want computer backups for “immortality”. And they’d dump billions of dollars into making that happen

About two months ago tho, we found out that the brain uses microtubules in the brain to put tryptophan into super position, and it can maintain that for like a crazy amount of time, like longer than we can do in a lab.

The only argument against a quantum component for human consciousness, was people thought there was no way to have even just get regular quantum entanglement in a human brain.

We’ll be lucky to be able to simulate that stuff in 50 years, but it’s probably going to be even longer.

Every billionaire who wanted to “live forever” this way, just got aged out. So they’ll throw their money somewhere else now.

half_built_pyramids ,

I used to follow the Penrose stuff and was pretty excited about QM as an explanation of consciousness. If this is the kind of work they’re reaching at though. This is pretty sad. It’s not even anything. Sometimes you need to go with your gut, and my gut is telling me that if this is all the QM people have, consciousness is probably best explained by complexity.

ask.metafilter.com/…/Is-this-paper-on-quantum-pro…

Completely off topic from ai, but got me curious about brain quantum and found this discussion. Either way, AI still sucks shit and is just a shortcut for stealing.

givesomefucks ,

That’s a social media comment from some Ask Yahoo knockoff…

Like, this isn’t something no one is talking about, you don’t have to solely learn about that from unpopular social media sites (including my comment).

I don’t usually like linking videos, but I’m feeling like that might work better here

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa2Kpkksf3k

But that PBS video gives a really good background and then talks about the recent discovery.

Jordan117 ,

some Ask Yahoo knockoff…

AskMeFi predated Yahoo Answers by several years (and is several orders of magnitude better than it ever was).

givesomefucks ,

And that linked accounts last comment was advocating for Biden to stage a pre-emptive coup before this election…

www.metafilter.com/activity/306302/…/mefi/

It doesn’t matter if it was created before Ask Yahoo or if it’s older.

It’s random people making random social media comments, sometimes stupid people make the rare comment that sounds like they know what they’re talking about. And I already agreed no one had to take my word on it either.

But that PBS video does a really fucking good job explaining it.

Cuz if I can’t explain to you why a random social media comment isn’t a good source, I’m sure as shit not going to be able to explain anything like Penrose’s theory on consciousness to you.

Jordan117 , (edited )

It doesn’t matter if it was created before Ask Yahoo or if it’s older.

It does if you’re calling it a “knockoff” of a lower-quality site that was created years later, which was what I was responding to.

edit: btw, you’ve linked to the profile of the asker of that question, not the answer to it that /u/half_built_pyramids quoted.

givesomefucks ,

Great.

So the social media site is older than I thought, and the person who made the comment on that site is a lot stupider than it seemed.

Like, Facebooks been around for about 20 years. Would you take a link to a Facebook comment over PBS?

Jordan117 ,

My man, I said nothing about the science or the validity of that comment, just that it’s wrong to call Ask MetaFilter “some Ask Yahoo knockoff”. If you want to get het up about an argument I never made, you do you.

arran4 ,

The fact that is is from LA Times shows that it’s still significant though

vk6flab ,
@vk6flab@lemmy.radio avatar

A.I., Assumed Intelligence

dinckelman ,

More like PISS, a Plagiarized Information Synthesis System

DogPeePoo ,

Wall Street has already milked “the pump” now they short it and put out articles like this

potentiallynotfelix ,

I don’t think AI is ever going to completely disappear, but I think we’ve hit the barrier of usefulness for now.

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