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Ilovethebomb ,

If I had a dollar for every dork in the comments telling everyone they run Linux…

arandomthought ,

Then you’d have 0 dollars because they aren’t dorks. They’re nerds and we need more of them. ¯_ (ツ)_/¯

floofloof ,

Hey, I’m a geek and I take offense at that.

arandomthought ,

Don’t worry, we need more of those too. <3

1984 OP ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

We do, but nerds don’t find girlfriends easily … :)

Source: myself

pHr34kY ,

Even if you can’t cleanly remove it, you can probably delete a few system files and break it. It’s not like the whole thing will be baked into kernel32.dll.

arandomthought ,

Not yet…

SynopsisTantilize ,

Cortana and IE break the OS if you fuck with the registry hard enough. When I deploy W11 to my building I wonder how much GP is gonna need to be setup to fix this bullshit

octopus_ink ,

Good point. Sounds like the kind of company I want to do business with. /s

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes you have to fight with the OS to make it work but that should be due to a bug (or my incompetence in using it). When it’s not working because it’s actually working on someone else’s behalf you can probably delete the whole fucking thing mate.

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

I’m actually enjoying the Linux learning curve because I know it’s not working against my interests.

On the other hand, every time I’ve had to go “under the hood” with Windows (Registry settings, config files) it’s been to prevent Microsoft from doing something sh*tty to me.

lepinkainen ,

You guys do know you don’t have to use Windows?

untorquer ,

Enterprise CAD does not play well with wine sadly(im such with fusion). But i locked that local account windows install away on a second hard drive with default boot to Linux.

dogslayeggs ,

You do know that many millions of people are given laptops/desktops for work that have locks that prevent new OS’s from being installed, right?

RagingSnarkasm ,

At this point, I think they are actively trying to drive us away.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer ,

The Elon Musk Maneuver.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s like the Picard Maneuver, but where you just warp straight in front of your enemy while simultaneously shitting yourself.

normalexit ,

They will certainly succeed at driving some people away. I was a lifetime Windows user and I currently don’t have it installed on any of my machines now. I think the average Joe is blissfully unaware other than the occasional dialog about a new feature coming their way.

I think they are going to lose more of the hardcore tech community with decisions like these, but I don’t know that they care.

Glowstick , (edited )

In most situations i agree with you, but i think when it comes to the purchase of techie things (like which computers and OS a company should use) then the opinion of techies matters. Their opinion may not matter as much as it should, but in aggregate over time it can cause large changes in purchasing decisions

Demdaru ,

I hate being bothered. Linux, while overall almost botherless, still looses to windows.

But damn me, when Win 10 loses support, I am jumping to nobara. Win 11 seems to be win 10 with every addon being something I harbor dislike for.

PhreakyByNature ,

I do like the convenience of Windows and I’m still on W10, when it loses support I’ll be switching to Linux too.

Kroxx ,

Linux, while overall almost botherless, still looses to windows.

Been using mint for around 2 months and I would say this is pretty accurate. Pretty much every game I play works out of the box. Discord however crashes the whole system sometimes and I can’t figure out why. Would still recommend Linux over windows but you will for sure encounter more issues.

lurch ,

but the “hardcore tech community” guys are the IT guys of all companies. so this means a lot of the people who are in IT related meetings and have a say in which OSes to install will now be opposed to Win11. A lot will probably suggest waiting to hopefully be able to skip 11, but some will choose alternatives.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

News flash, a lot of the hardcore tech community already used Linux and would’ve pushed for it in related meetings.

Using Windows isn’t a sign of advocacy, it’s a sign of legacy. Companies don’t want to swap and change things.

Soup ,

Right but if Windows is now becoming a problem then it’s a start. And so many software developers I know use MacBooks for their job and say that they’re just better for the work. Microsoft is hoping that the fear of change means they can do whatever they want, if they even have any thoughts in their thick heads at all that is, and don’t seem to realize that at some point even the most devoted users will have to face the fact that there are better options.

Fuck Windows, it’s such an ass product that’s only selling point right now that some key products don’t work on anything else simply because the developers of them don’t want to do the work and not because it has some magic sauce that a Mac or Linux machine doesn’t.

DrDickHandler ,

They don’t care and you really don’t matter in the big scope of things.

Gerudo ,

There was a time when they did try to listen. Since 11 was being imagined, it all was downhill. I used to work for them and all messaging changed once 11 was being worked on

doctortofu , (edited )
@doctortofu@reddthat.com avatar

To be honest, they probably are. My pet theory is that they’re trying to do what do many politicians are doing - drive away everyone but the strongest base electorate that will stay with them no matter what they do. And then, the grift starts. I’m reasonably sure sooner rather than later they’ll start charging a subscription fee to use Windows, and people and companies will bend over and pay it…

Tja ,

There’s a lot of talk about switching to Linux (I use Arch, BTW) but for anyone looking for a new computer, macs are going to look real good. Still user friendly, excellent build quality, and Unix core. A Mac mini can be had for about 500 bucks. I’ve got an M2 MacBook Pro from work and I am super happy with it. Limited gaming tho, but I got a steamdeck for that.

1984 OP ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Mac is a lot easier to get started with, so absolutely. The downside is that people get pulled into the ecosystem of apple, with specific chargers, keyboards, adapters… Many of my friends use macs and they also start to buy iPhones and other apple gear.

moormaan ,

My situation exactly, and I’m very happy with it. M2 with its speed and long battery life compensates well for some unconfigurable behaviours in MacOS that I have minor gripes with, and for gaming and general Linux goodness, Steam Deck to the rescue.

floofloof , (edited )

Macs look appealing, but they’re so expensive that I’ve been working with computers for decades but never felt I could afford one. Not a useful one anyway. The power efficiency is attractive but you have to spend so much to get past 8GB RAM and 256GB storage, which is like a PC from 10 years ago. Every time I consider it I end up back with Linux and/or Windows just because of the upfront cost. And because Apple sell to people who are willing to pay high prices, the software, accessories and support for Mac is also more expensive.

Tja ,

I haven’t bought a PC since my X200s ca 2008 so I’m really out of date on hardware prices, but the MacBook is just amazing. For dev / office work even the base one could be enough, swap is so fast you don’t even notice it. I have a 16/512 model and it’s more than enough.

For stationary computing, the Mac mini is awesome, under 1k with the same specs as the MacBook.

xelar ,

Switching to Linux would be difficult, when I’m the only one in team willing to change.

People feel comfy as it is and don’t feel a need to change. They say it requires “extra work”.

Valmond ,

And still they do all that extra work repeatedly when windows changes or breaks something. Guess it’s just not annoying enough each time…

DaddleDew ,

What was it, not even two months ago when they said they “listened” to us and that they wouldn’t go forward with Recall? And we all said they would still roll it in later when the dust had settled? Yup, we were right.

1984 OP ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

It happens every time…tech companies are not worried what users think because users don’t care enough to switch to Linux.

Tywele ,

At that point they said that they wouldn’t go forward with Recall in the current state. It was never in question that it would come eventually. The question was in what state?

DarkDarkHouse ,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Whoops we turned the heat up too quickly and the frogs noticed. Just turn it back down for a bit then begin heating up again, just a little slower this time.

sir_pronoun ,

Just finally switched my gaming PC to Linux mint. It works flawlessly. I can even re-use the steam game files I downloaded on Windows. Never going back.

1984 OP ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah I’ve been gaming exclusively on Linux for many years now, but sure, a few games don’t work. I’m OK with that since almost all actually do work.

NeoNachtwaechter ,

Who else has ever invented such a powerful spyware?

Serious question. Because usually Microsoft are not the first ones with anything, it is very likely that there is a predecessor.

Now I am quite disturbed because I don’t know how and where we are being spied on already in such an infamous manner!

MrSoup ,

China?

NeoNachtwaechter ,

Tell me more?

MrSoup ,

youtu.be/watch?v=uReVvICTrCM

yewtu.be/watch?v=uReVvICTrCM

ABCDE ,

Vietnam? They have their own browser (CocCoc) and IM application (Zalo).

stankmut ,

There is a Mac app called Rewind that came out a couple of years ago that does the same thing. There was also an open source thing for Windows. Everyone is desperate to show that they are hip and can do AI. It looks like someone at Microsoft saw a demo of one of those apps and thought that putting it into Windows would let them brag about how much AI Windows can do. They clearly tried to rush it out in time for their Copilot PC marketing push.

The idea is that you can use local LLM models and image scanning to talk to your computer. You could ask it to summarize your day, ask what you were working on last week, or find those articles you vaguely remember reading last year and can’t find anymore. I can almost see the merit, but the security risk is so high.

I wonder if people will eventually stop caring about the security risk of features like this. Those AI girlfriends some people dream about will have access to so much private information. Give this thing a voice and you can market it as a companion who learns the things you like and can talk with you about the things you are reading. Hackers might be able to see literally everything you’ve done on the computer for the last few years, but you’ll get to feel like Iron Man with your own personal Jarvis.

slampisko ,

I think the average Joe doesn’t really understand or care about the security risk of such a feature, because they assume that there are competent people at the company who have considered the security risk and took sufficient steps to address it. It’s not by accident that there’s a meme about some guy having a smart fridge and watch and everything, and his friend the IT expert, who doesn’t have a single piece of smart tech and keeps a gun in the kitchen in case the toaster makes a wrong move…

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Not use Windows 11 you say? Install Linux you say?!

stoy ,

If it was listed incorrectly as a feature that could be turned on or off and it was a bug, then the bugfix would seem to be making it listed correctly as a feature that can be turned on or off.

stankmut ,

It can still be turned on or off, they are just saying it wasn’t supposed to be on that particular screen.

My guess is that it was there as a temporary way to turn it on and off during development before they had a page in settings.

Reverendender ,

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/76dd1bff-c60b-4775-be35-51eee8a2af1d.gif

__init__ ,

You get to drink from the fire hose!!!

Slyme ,

“…can’t be uninstalled…”

Well sure it can, you just have to switch to Linux!

BmeBenji ,

I wonder if the advent of Windows 11’s “best” features will become known as “The Great Defenestration”

demizerone , (edited )

They see a pile of cash and can’t resist. The only way it’ll truly stop is if users boycott everytime they try to bring it back, which will be neverending.

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