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gravitas_deficiency ,

And Nothing is going to fire you if you don’t find a creative way to meet their bullshit attendance metrics.

I love being treated like a gradeschooler. Really boosts my morale, especially with nearly two fucking decades of experience and being on the wrong side of 35.

Stop bothering me and let me do my fucking job, for christ’s sake.

Edit: all that said, the company name does make for an amusing headline

ByteJunk ,
@ByteJunk@lemmy.world avatar

This is an interesting approach from the CEO, in that it demonstrates why unions are mandatory.

eee ,

This just means they’re a struggling company who needs to cut headcount and want to do it without paying severance

Saledovil ,

In addition, this tactic will result in the best employees leaving first, because they’ll get employed somewhere else.

HK65 ,

Cue the pivot to some ridiculous buzz tech like AI in the near future, then being acquired and promptly abandoned by some big corp.

Saledovil ,

The thing with AI is, what the term today refers to most often is neural networks, which are really advanced statistics. And the thing is, to get more precise statistics, you need exponentially more data. And of course the marginal utility decays exponentially. So exponentially increasing marginal expenses meet exponentially decaying marginal utility.

HK65 ,

Just to be clear, I am in love with statistics and especially generative algos, and have written papers on it before ChatGPT was a thing.

I just hate that one company made a chatbot with it and now the whole world is cargo culting around it.

WhatsHerBucket ,
@WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world avatar

Nothing is requiring employees to be in the office five ANY days a week

FTFY

floofloof ,

"Remote work is not compatible with a high ambition level plus high speed,” Pei said in the email, telling employees who are worried about flexibility that “this is a company for grown ups.”

Sounds like he actually means it’s a company for exploitable young people and socopathic assholes. Grown-ups have other responsibilities and don’t want work to commandeer their whole lives.

TheReturnOfPEB ,

“This company is for grown ups. Now sit over there where I can check on you constantly and do what I tell you like a child that can’t be trusted alone.”

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

We had a tremendous office culture in the 1950s. Since then, we have had numerous – very numerous – improvements and innovations in the telecom space, in the office assistant space (think personal digital assistant, or rather all the ubiquitous tools that do what those used to do), and other general improvements which empower significantly enhanced productivity.

To say people still need to be in the office is to say there have been no improvements. The fact is, we can be at home and be more productive than in an office. Anyone who tells you otherwise has ulterior motives.

Company is too invested in real estate? Sounds like an issue that the C-suite caused and that they alone should fix. Middle management needs to feel useful? Maybe they should find a career that actually has a need for their micromanagement instead of forcing other people into an obsolete box to appear useful. Show me a company against remote work, and I’ll show you a company with outdated goals, more outdated methods, and leadership which should be replaced en masse with people from 2024.

SupraMario ,

One person does what 10 people did in the 50s, these assholes just want control, and companies like this shit for brains, is going to have workers who don’t care and just want a paycheck. He’s not getting cream of the crop with his pouting childish screams. He’ll be irrelevant in a few years.

Agent641 ,

WFH is not a new concept, nor restricted to office work. Priya Satia’s book Empire of Guns reports that 2/3rds of company-employed Birmingham blacksmiths in the 1700s worked from home, and were more productive for it.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nothing I said contradicts that. But it is the case that there are a wide variety of technologies which make WFH even easier than it may have been before.

If people did it before, they should keep doing it. But now, even more people should be able to WFH.

Agent641 ,

Supporting argument, not counterpoint

Ilandar ,

“Remote work is not compatible with a high ambition level plus high speed,” Pei said in the email, telling employees who are worried about flexibility that “this is a company for grown ups.”

“I know this is a controversial decision that may not be a fit for everyone, and there are definitely companies out there that thrive in remote or hybrid setups,” he added. “But that’s not right for our type of business, and won’t help us fully realize our potential as a company.”

Very reminiscent of Musk’s message to Twitter employees a couple of years ago.

“Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.”

And his own attitudes towards work-from-home:

Musk imposed a strict return-to-the-office policy for Tesla in June 2022, warning them they would lose their jobs if they refused to do so. Employees would need to spend a minimum of 40 hours at the office a week; anything less would be “phoning it in.”

“Get off the goddamn moral high horse with the work-from-home bullshit,” Musk said, “because they’re asking everyone else to not work from home while they do.”

“If you want to work at Tesla, you want to work at SpaceX, you want to work at Twitter — you got to come into the office every day,” he said.

acosmichippo , (edited )
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

“Get off the goddamn moral high horse with the work-from-home bullshit,” Musk said, “because they’re asking everyone else to not work from home while they do.”

elon musk, the great social equity watchdog. watch, next he’s gonna say “Get off the goddamn moral high horse with the fair wages bullshit, because they’re asking everyone else to work for minimum wage while they don’t.”

androogee ,

Goddamn. It took out my boy Rock Biter’s whole crew, it made the Child-like Empress cry, now this? Disgusting behavior.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

Moooooon chillllldddd!

kantor ,

Ngl, that’s a genius headline

Lifecoach5000 ,

Yeah I was expecting this to be a thought piece in general about companies requiring them be back in office.

return2ozma OP ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

I did a double take when I first read it. Then I realized it was, Nothing, the phone company.

acosmichippo ,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

I did not even realize until reading this comment that Nothing was a company.

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Fuck me.

DeadNinja ,
@DeadNinja@lemmy.world avatar

Ever since TV remote was invented, people don’t even lift their asses off the couch and walk over to the TV to change the channel. Unless a company adapts to changing tech landscape, they can be many things, but not a company for grown-ups.

Ilandar ,

“tHiS iS a ComPaNy fOr GrOwN uPs”

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

“this is a company for grown ups.”

That’s too bad. I was thinking of getting their phone when I needed a new one, I guess I’ll just add them to my mental list of companies to avoid.

Sidyctism2 ,

goddamn i read parts of the article trying to figure out which company… Im not a marketing guy, but nobody can tell me that “nothing” is marketable brand.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Allow me to introduce you to their main competitor, elon musk.

Oh, I don’t mean competitor in the business market. I mean their main competitor for worlds least marketable brand identity.

He took twitter, which had it’s own global brand awareness, and blundered it so bad that every media company refers to it as “X (formerly twitter)” because they know that if they had just put X, nobody would know what the hell they were talking about.

And his other company is literally named “The Boring Company”. Where I assume they make disease, and murderous robots that are somehow racist.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer ,

Clearly it’s not a company for grown ups because you think they’re all children that won’t play together unless you cram them into a classroom and tell them, “Make nice.”

anon_8675309 ,

I’m a grown up. I’ve been remote for a decade. I’m pretty successful too.

Telorand ,

Right? Imagine thinking that working in a cubicle is something to aspire to as a “grown up.” Fuck that. I’ll continue working from home, like an adult, thanks.

LEVI ,

I guess I’ll just add them to my mental list of companies to avoid.

😆 mental ?! I already have my list in my browser bookmarks

JohnDClay ,

Part of it is literally named teenage engineering! The division working on the earbuds.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Engineering

itchick2014 ,

Teenage engineering partnered with Nothing. That isn’t the same thing.

Arthur ,

Teenage Engineering is a hardware design firm that Nothing contracts with for hardware design. They aren’t a division of Nothing and they don’t work on just earbuds.

SeaJ ,

I’m sure Carl Pei will always be in office. /s

floofloof ,

He’s not going to exploit himself, silly!

mercano ,
@mercano@lemmy.world avatar

The way this usually works out is you loose all the good employees and you’re left with the dregs who were unable to find another remote position in time.

essteeyou ,

Dead Sea Effect

veeesix ,
@veeesix@lemmy.ca avatar

“This is a company for grown-ups”.

Says man who makes phones that sparkle and a fidget spinner earbud case.

citrusface ,

Guess I won’t be buying the CMF Phone after all.

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