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vxx ,

How long until YouTube blocks Firefox?

RangerJosie ,

They can try. It won’t work.

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

Anti-trust lawyers are rubbing their hands in anticipation.

asexualchangeling ,

Considering they were already declared an illegal monopoly? I’d love to see them do that

miridius ,

Sensationalist and inaccurate title

CouncilOfFriends ,

It deserves mentioning that Firefox on Android supports extensions, so if you uninstall/disable the official YouTube app then add uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock you get a more tolerable experience.

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Can also use Vinegar (for YouTube) and Baking Soda (for basically every other site with videos) with Safari on iOS. It’s not a perfect solution, but it at least revamps Safari’s built-in video player so watching in the browser is actually tolerable.

ondra5 ,

You can also patch YouTube in a similar way as revanced on iOS, I use YTLitePlus. And for Adblock I use the Wipr extension and hush for blocking and auto rejecting cookie popups. No jailbreak needed.

Joelk111 ,

Or just use Revanced or Grayjay, both of which are ad free and support sponsor block. Revanced is still a bit more feature complete imo, but also more buggy on my device, and more of a hassle to update. The browser YouTube experience is so bad, ads or ad free.

Tired8281 ,

I wonder if we trained an AI on the entire corpus of articles about how Google is gonna kill adblocking, if we could keep these articles going after most people switch uneventfully over to Lite.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I wonder if this leaves Chrome users susceptible to ads that load malware, which has been a problem for the last decade, and a driver of adblocking extension development. You can get spyware and worms from Forbes, for instance.

Adblocking is not just a matter of a cleaner internet experience, but also of good internet hygiene

mihnt ,

Oh yeah, I have a feeling we’re about to see 2000s level bullshit on computers/phones again.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

The majority of people already don’t use ad blockers though. The Chrome Web Store says that 34 million people use (used?) uBlock Origin, while it’s estimated that around 3.3 billion people use Chrome. If those numbers are correct, only around 1% of Chrome users use uBlock Origin.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I feel sorry for that 3.26 billion people, most of whom have to deal with ads, spyware and malware.

smb ,

its not just ads and malware, and its not only about beeing sorry for them. ads are also manipulating how people think. not only the obvious things like “that product is good”, but also that products in general would help (with problems you didn’t have). and the format itself of ads (even without considering its contents) already has a changing effects on the minds of those who watch it. i am thinking of some parts of neil postmans thoughts about television back then and i guess there is plenty of possibilities to make a realistic conspiracy theory out of it why exactly the most poisonous parts of television are replicated to the internet with massive force even though everyone ignores ads in the net. i like theories

unfortunately, feeling sorry for them does not help society to stability. 😥

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

What’s the alternative to ads, though? Not everyone wants to (or can afford to) pay for every site they use.

smb ,

What’s the alternative to ads, though? Not everyone wants to (or can afford to) pay for every site they use.

its not about paying for the site a user uses, its about paying those who run the site (and less to pay for someone only “managing” the site by doing actually nothing)

maybe these could be alternatives:

  • patreon
  • flattr
  • micropayment in general
  • donations (somafm runs on donations)
  • link to shopping platforms (musicians on somafm mostly have links to the songs on amazon that you see while playing the song for free)
  • communities, like FSF, local groups
  • some small payed supporter part (like lwn.net) while the important stuff that makes the win-win of the site is free to use
  • maybe the list from this page can help too: kinsta.com/de/blog/patreon-alternativen/Kickstarter Indiegogo Podia Sellfy Buy Me a Coffee Memberful Hypage Ko-fi Substack Kajabi Gumroad WooCommerce Mighty Networks MemberPress Uscreen

maybe even a combination of multiple of those *whoa!!! mindblow!!! could be a good choice to allow usersvto choose how to contribute.

so really only choosing to offer exactly one option that also puts all users at a real risk of real attacks where they can get ripped off of all or lots of their real money and data for the sake if earning 0.003 ¢ per each putting them at high risk is not really what should be done, or do you personally profit from their users high risk and are thus completely okay with it? hope not.

if you have to earn money with your project or whatever, why not offer several options to choose from? why only one? and while we’re at it, offering an ad-free “membership” for 400 times the price of what they would earn by the same visitor with ads like they try here sometimes, does not make any platform look good, but the opposite.

there are many platforms that i would pay for monthly and i would spend much more money alltogether than now on that if their price would not be artificially pushed into astronomically heights per service…

there is one project where i do donate each month a little bit via recurring bank transfer since years. my transfer says the name of the project and “donation” thats pretty easy to setup for both sides, but too complicated for those who pay designers money so they can place the ad layers on top of the 400 other layers of spypixels and navigation controls… really ? lol*

if those you are talking about cannot afford to have a bank account for some reason, i guess they also cannot receive the revenue of ads on their webpages ;+)

saying there are no alternatives to ads is rather a candidate for the lamest excuse award ;-)

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

What’s the alternative to ads, though? Not everyone wants to (or can afford to) pay for every site they use.

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ublock origin isn’t the only ad blocker out there. If you like Ublock origin, use Ublock origin lite. It’s fully V3 compliant.

tallpaul ,

Not so effective against the likes of YouTube allegedly.

s_s ,

Google says Manifest v3 is being done “for security reasons” but what they don’t say is that it’s not for your security.

It’s a Judge Dredd situation.

Google is vertically integrating the roles of content provider (ads) and content server so that web pages load exactly the way the page’s developer expects them to. This necessarily excludes things that selectively filter content, like blockers.

They’re essentially taking an open framefork for the web and replacing it with interactive pdfs, that show exactly what the web developer wants, and collects exactly the information the developer wants to know about you.

If you think you should have more control, use Firefox. Anyone using Chrome is complict at this point.

sturmblast ,

Simple solution. Don’t use Chrome.

bluewing ,

Ive been testing out ungoogled chrome with uBlock, and it still seems to be working. But I think I’m going to add Waterfox along side of my Firefox to look at that one also.

But I’m also not sure you can install uBlock anymore from the Chrome repository either.

sturmblast ,

Not sure about the repo route, never went that deep with Chrome. Firefox has always been my mainstay (and Netscape before it.)

zanyllama52 ,
@zanyllama52@infosec.pub avatar

I imagine most of us here already don’t use Google Chrome, but I’ll be spending some time proselytizing on the behalf of Mozilla for Firefox with the folks I run across.

Chakravanti ,

Firefox

Librewolf

dandu3 ,

As long as chromium keeps it I’m fine. I use edge, why should I bother with downloading another browser when the one it comes with is identical?

Choco1ateCh1p ,
@Choco1ateCh1p@lemmy.world avatar

The reason you’re utilizing edge is valid, but why not use Firefox?

mechoman444 ,

Huh… I couldn’t tell with all the Firefox I use.

MaxHardwood ,

Huh… So you’re not using the product the article is referring to?

mechoman444 ,

No I use u-block origin. The very product the article is referring to.

I just use it in Firefox so I am completely unaffected by this.

It’s a great feel.

MaxHardwood ,

It’s about Chrome. Using Firefox is unrelated to the article.

mechoman444 ,

It’s about uBlock Origin not working on chrome.

MaxHardwood ,

So what does Firefox have anything to do with it then?

mechoman444 ,

Nothing…

MaxHardwood ,

Weird. You spent 3 days defending Firefox for an article that has nothing to do with Firefox… You just wanted to say Firefox for some weird reason…

mechoman444 ,

I spent zero time defending anything.

I made a statement relative to the original article.

I am unaffected by the fact that uBlock will no longer function in chrome because I use Firefox.

You keep trying to infer that Firefox has nothing to do with chrome or the article in and of itself. Which I do not contest.

And yet I still made the statement.

So let me repeat myself. “I am unaffected by this because I use Firefox”

I hope that my continued perceived waste of time annoys you further.

DarkSpectrum ,

With Google providing 80% of Mozilla’s finding, I think we can all see whats going to happen next.

sfxrlz ,

I feel like this isn’t talked about enough. Sure

just use Firefox

But for how long is it gonna work that way until they too deprecate v2

sexy_peach ,
@sexy_peach@feddit.org avatar

They’re the only alternative for now.

MrFlamey ,

Don’t worry. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

Personally I feel like I’m too addicted to Youtube (and Reddit, which is what brought me back here), so if I can’t block ads, perhaps I’ll be able to quit. To be honest though, even just disabling watch history and reducing subscriptions makes a massive difference to how addictive it is.

Blackmist ,

I’m more worried that sites will start to demand it for “security purposes”.

sfxrlz ,

It will be either of those two. The effort required to circumvent the restrictions will get increasingly higher. As someone fittingly said a few days ago. Let the 1984 commence.

jakob22 ,

The Google payments were never guaranteed for Mozilla. If they didn’t have a backup plan in place to reduce spending, that’s on them. Let Mozilla return to its garage opensource roots.

sexy_peach ,
@sexy_peach@feddit.org avatar

This was the plan all along

reka ,

so long dental plan!

charonn0 ,
@charonn0@startrek.website avatar

Lisa needs braces!

Dazed_Confused ,
@Dazed_Confused@lemmy.world avatar

It literally took me less than ten minutes to set up firefox. I carried all my bookmarks and passwords from edge and set up a mozilla account and everything is synced across linux, windows and android.

The only thing I’m worried of, is if some websites require chrome to work, as was the case with some government sites that only worked with internet explorer in the old days.

(Does anyone know if the default user agent is chrome? I used to log in a local streaming site from edge and it wouldn’t work, as it required chrome, but I used an extension to take care of the user agent. On firefox it works no problem.)

Upsidedownturtle ,

From my experience, most of those websites that want a specific browser require edge these days. Some streaming sites will only give FHD on edge, and HD streams on other browsers if at all (looking at you Vudu).

Kit ,

Just use Edge on sites that don’t support Firefox, if you must use them. Same as how we used IE for government sites back in the day.

gnutard , (edited )

Why not use chromium or a hardened version of it? Edge is proprietary software.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Edge is chromium…

gnutard , (edited )

Yes, but Edge comes with a lot more proprietary components added.

I would recommend installing ungoogled-chromium or using another hardened FOSS version of chromium instead.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Orrrrr

Stop using chromium based browsers.

gnutard ,

The person was saying they couldn’t access a certain site with Firefox, that’s why I suggested a chromium based browser.

BootyBuccaneer ,

I recommend the User-Agent Switcher and Manager Firefox addon for those struggling with some sites.

You can also report a broken site to Mozilla directly via the browser menu.

There was another (third-party?) page where you could report websites but I forgot its url.

Dazed_Confused ,
@Dazed_Confused@lemmy.world avatar

I used this extension on edge to view one particular site (although I never managed to make it auto load on that page, but meh). As I said firefox seems to work without it for some reason.

yessikg ,
@yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m using the Chrome Mask extension on the few sites that complain

darkkite ,

half of the websites are google-owned

JenIsBringingTheDrugs ,
GiddyGap ,

There’s an easy fix for this. 🔥🦊

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