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Sparky ,
@Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Sigh…

A couple of years ago there were discussions on how stupid 20+tb harddrives were, mainly because they are so slow that the time it takes for files to transfer to a spinning disk was too long.

Let’s say you have a good 20tb drive and it can transfer files at 200MB/s. To fill that drive, it’ll take 1 day and 8 hours of continuous transfer. If it’s failing, and you’re trying to get as much off of it you’re screwed.

Now let’s think about that micro SD card. It’s 4tb, and let’s be gracious and give it a v90 speed class. That’s 90MB/s. Looking at a calculation for the time it takes to fill it up, we’re sitting at about 14h and 14 minutes. Worst part is that SD cards don’t have SMART, meaning you don’t know when they’ll die.

From my experience, even good SD cards die in my raspberry pi running pihole, and the cards runs idle almost all the time.

Also there’s this thing that the higher capacity a storage device gets, the more valueable the data stored on it becomes, not directly because it’s high capacity, but because it’s more trusted by the user.

Guys, gals and anyone in between, please get a proper storage solution, something that won’t fail spontaneously. If you need that kind of capacity, go for a Nas with spare drives, or at least get an ssd.

/end rant

Evotech ,

This is obviously not for large scale storage. But for stuff like cameras, which uses ever larger files for raw images

venoft ,
@venoft@lemmy.world avatar

No one is using SD cards for data storage, I hope.

ChaoticEntropy , (edited )
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

Why would someone wanting to store huge amounts of data to put it on a storage device that is the most fragile/short lived?

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

short term storage of uncompressed high resolution data

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah pictures and videos is all I can think of. I am no photophile but I assume some small digital camera benefits from storage of the micro variety. Has me thinking of the 2015 movie Victoria, 140m straight, one shot, no cuts, and actually a good movie, pretty amazing stuff.

Krzd ,
@Krzd@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think microSD has the write speed for that, might be more useful for HD surveillance cameras

frezik ,

Uncompressed 4k stream @ 30fps and 24bpp would be 5.7 GB/s. The top regular SD card speed, UHS-III, maxes at 0.6 GB/s. SD Express, where a PCIe lane is added, goes to 3.9 GB/s.

So, yeah, going to need at least some compression. Good news is that just a little compression can go a long way.

Blackmist ,

Even full 4K HDR Blu-ray rips come in at about 30GB an hour.

That’s 500MB per minute which just about fits in the 10MB/s of UHS Class 1.

I would consider those fairly standard these days. You’d have to have picked an extra shitty AliExpress special to not have your card meet that.

JohnEdwa ,

Why would anyone need a 24TB HDD?
Because in the time we have gone from 4GB SD cards to 4TB cards, movies have gone from being 700MB to 70Gb, and games from coming on a few cds or dvds to requiring a mountain of them - Baldurs Gate 1 came on 5 CDs, BG3 would require around 200 of them.

That 4TB card has only space for 26 games, if they are as large as BG3.

moody ,

The original Baldur’s Gate came on a single CD and had full install size of under 600MB. It was also possible to do a partial install and to load files off the CD at runtime.

JohnEdwa ,

I wonder what the other disks were all for then.

grue ,

An uncompressed CD audio soundtrack, maybe?

(That doesn’t appear to be the case for Baldur’s Gate in particular since the discs pictured in the listing have “compact disc data storage” logos, but I do remember some '90s games being like that.)

JohnEdwa ,

In this case, the question was rhetorical - the original release of BG1 takes 5 CDs, and the sixth is the Tales of the Sword Coast expansion. Installed the game takes around 2.8GB IIRC. They did eventually re-release it as only a 3 CD set because they could cram more data on a single CD by then.

Blackmist ,

You could do that with a lot of PS1 games. The first track was data, the rest were just regular CD audio tracks.

This got rarer later on, once they realised the could fill the discs with FMV sequences instead.

Hule ,

I see one is an expansion disk.

There might be a few with CD Audio

As was the fashion at the time…

mark3748 ,

Last I remember, Baldurs Gate was on 6 separate discs, but I haven’t installed it from those in probably 20 years.

Shawdow194 ,
@Shawdow194@kbin.run avatar

Good for straight off the camera

BassTurd ,

My GoPro can record 4k@30fps. A 20-25min video is 5+gb. The newer GoPros will do 8k@60fps i believe, maybe only 30fps. That will take up a lot more space.

The cards have to be the higher speed cards to be able to record those resolutions, but if I were a person that recorded a lot of stuff, having a card that large would be nice for a day long session.

wewbull ,

Video Cameras

Sorse ,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Games, the easiest way to expand the storage on a Steam Deck is a micro sd card.

Blackmist ,

SD card is limited to 100MB/s iirc.

It may be simplest, but it’s far from ideal.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Given some reviews I’ve seen, it’s more than good enough for games. Loading times may be a bit longer, but not that bad. HDDs are in that range, and plenty of people use HDDs for gaming.

Blackmist ,

I can’t even imagine going back to an HDD for gaming.

I was recently given a laptop to check and make sure there was no info on it before disposal, and it took so long to boot into Windows and get into a usable state, I legit thought it was faulty.

And the worst thing was, that was a fresh install. Somebody had already cleared it.

Games are just so stupidly big now. They’re pushing 200GB. To fill 16GB RAM from SD (and not all games load that much) would take 3 minutes. The SSD can do that in about 6 seconds.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

Sneakernet. There’s places that don’t have access to get l good Internet and relatively inexpensive storage like this allows them to buy and trade media and consume it on inexpensive devices like a cellphone.

SeekPie ,

They’re awesome for modding iPods, though my music library’s probably less than 1 gb.

Visstix ,

I am slightly confused why they use UHS-I instead of UHS-II (or even UHS-III) for such a big capacity. Seems like people needing so much capacity probably write a lot of data in a short time. UHS-II is 3 times quicker.

Then again maybe they are aiming for devices that can’t even run UHS-II

kn33 ,

Could be a trade-off issue. They can get capacity or speed but not both yet.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Or it’s cost-prohibitive ATM. As in, they could get both, but you’d pay a ton for it.

kytta ,

I can imagine this being useful for cases where you write a lot of data over a longer time period. Think CCTV (with low-medium resolution). You can keep a sizeable archive locally and never have to swap cards

catloaf ,

I assume larger capacity means longer endurance, too, since you’re not constantly rewriting the same cells.

uninvitedguest ,
@uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s SanDisk, I expect the opposite - that every cell increases the volatility and chance of catastrophic failure.

Visstix ,

Oh yeah cctv could be a good option indeed.

DmMacniel ,
@DmMacniel@feddit.org avatar

SDUC supports up to one hundred and twenty eight Terabytes O.o

Who in the world requires so much Storage on a tiny SD card?!

BennyInc ,

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bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

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palordrolap ,

“I’ve said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that." -- an actual Bill Gates quote referring to the 640k quote that won't die.

But yes, it was probably satirically ascribed to him because of MS-DOS not having the capability to deal with any more than that amount of RAM for a lot longer than it probably should have.

The "temporary" solution of requiring an extra driver to be able to do so (EMM386.SYS or similar) remained in place right up until DOS-based Windows was allowed to die.

(The underlying reason was almost certainly ancient IBM PC memory-mapped IO standards, so maybe we could ascribe the original quote an engineer working there some time around 1980.)

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Steamdeck game library

DmMacniel ,
@DmMacniel@feddit.org avatar

That’s a lot of games/applications then, is the card reader fast enough though?

paddirn ,

I use mine exclusively for emulation and ROMs, entire libraries of every single game released for older systems. The SD card I have for that runs them fine without issue. Potentially with newer/bigger games you might come across issues, that I haven’t really done at all.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve been using a 1tb sd card with mine and my steam library. Not any noticeable difference in speed between the internal ssd and micro sd.

grue ,

How many different game are you trying to play at a time?

Petter1 ,

Luckily there is a m.2 slot in the deck 😉

And in general as well, does it make more sense to use m.2 Type-2230 SSD instead of SD cards, these days. Way faster and way more robust.

PerogiBoi , (edited )
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Not really super feasible for the average user to crack apart the plastic casing and reformat the new m.2 slot (since there is only one) with a new SteamOS partition.

I think you’ll find 95% of all steam deck users will prefer popping in a microsd than ripping apart their deck and formatting/transferring in a new internal drive.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not too hard. Make a direct copy of the old drive to an external drive. Install the new drive. Do a direct copy back onto the new drive from the external. Expand the partition to the new size.

Or you can install the new drive and reinstall steam os.

drcobaltjedi ,

As someone who did swap theor steam deck’s M.2, I really wish it were a 2280 instead since those drives can hold much more. The largest 2230 I could find was only 2 TB.

AFC1886VCC ,

Deck gang rise up

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

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steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t get it

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

When people disassemble their steam deck for the first time, they often forget to pull out their expensive micro sd, and it gets cracked by Steam deck body in half

steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Oof. Thank you for explaining.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

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browse ,

using less space for your storage is always better

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

I want all my music on my phone, not just a pithy 80,000 songs.

troyunrau ,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

As a bandcamp flac lover, I concur. I’ve spent so much supporting small artists it’s actually insane. I make two copies after I download an album: one to giant memory stick which I can plug into entertainment systems and such, one to the microsd in my phone. I currently have 1TB microsd in my phone for this reason, but I can see it possibly running out one day :D

Telorand ,

People who want a Raspberry Pi NAS without having to buy a hat?

DmMacniel ,
@DmMacniel@feddit.org avatar

Isn’t it preferable to have a RAID configuration for your NAS? Or do you then buy multiples of those?

Telorand ,

Certainly, but only if you’re proactive about backups. If you’re lazy, well…

Rai , (edited )

I wish I could trust SD cards enough to use one on my Pi NAS… I just snagged a 5TB* external HDD.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Five… gigs?

Rai ,

Oooo thank you. Brain broken today. Five gigs is the average movie size hahaha

Summzashi ,

Pathetic.

Gerudo ,

We say that about every tech capacity. No way anyone could ever use more than 1.44mb, oh man 2mb ram will be all I ever need etc.

SomethingBurger ,

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sugartits ,

Look, some people may have a porn collection that they need to backup and store “about their person” and this is the ideal way to do that.

Don’t be kink shaming.

foggenbooty ,

All I want is higher resiliency SD cards. It must be a technology limitation with being unable to fit a good controller in there or something because I would gladly sacrifice speed and capacity for something reliable in a lot of my applications.

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Didn’t we only just start getting 2TB microSD?

werefreeatlast ,

Just need to set them up in a raid configuration for redundancy.

dtrain ,

Redunda-what?

The only RAID is Zero.

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Gotta go fast

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