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Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Yeah… Now that everyone found out about the idea and said “fuck Logitech.” lol

If there was no reaction or a positive reaction to it they would definitely be planning on releasing one.

BassTurd ,

They already can’t make a fucking mouse that won’t suffer from double clicks within a few years. They have a model, albeit a shitty one, that has people repeatedly buying their products. I will never buy another Logitech product if they even make a “luxury” mouse for the wealthy that has subs, even if they keep a free option. It’s not for me, but the existence of such product is a deal breaker in itself.

raynethackery ,

Can you tell us which mouse you use? I miss my Mx Marble.

BassTurd ,

I have two Wireless Pro Gs, one for work and one for home. I used a g502 for many years and the battery started being shitty with it. I replaced it, but it kept telling me to change it anyway. I then got a g502s that failed within 2 years with double clicking. Then a g902 I think, which started double clicking just after a year. Then I got my first Pro G. I enjoyed it enough to fork out for a second one for work. A couple of months ago, my at home Pro G started double clicking, this is maybe 2-3 years in now. Blowing it out helped a little, but not much. One time I accidentally opened a whole bunch of emails I was going to delete, and slammed it on my desk, and it’s been fine since.

My next mouse will probably be a different brand, even just to play the field a bit.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

I mean everyone knows that the answer to whether they’d live to do this is “yes”, but you don’t have to guess. They pretty much say ‘yes we’re planning it’ in PR doublespeak:

Logitech’s stance is “the mouse mentioned is not an actual or planned product but a peek into provocative internal thinking on future possibilities for more sustainable consumer electronics.”

So… They’re not planning to make it but they’re investigating the market possibility of selling it? Golly PRtalk is rough.

Luckily the CEO comes in hot again for us. Besides comparing the Morse to a Rolex he has this to say:

I’m going to ask this very directly. Can you envision a subscription mouse?

Possibly.

And that would be the forever mouse?

Yeah.

So you pay a subscription for software updates to your mouse.

Yeah, and you never have to worry about it again, which is not unlike our video conferencing services today.

But it’s a mouse.

But it’s a mouse, yeah.

I think consumers might perceive those to be very different.

[Laughs] Yes, but it’s gorgeous. Think about it like a diamond-encrusted mouse.

Diamond crusted to who?

BallShapedMan ,
@BallShapedMan@lemmy.world avatar

SaaS occasionally makes sense but I’m overall against it. Hardware SaaS has been dumb as fuck since AMD tried to charge us extra to unlock cores we already had on the chip and like 6 seconds until we fished out how to get around it.

JDPoZ ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes, the ol’ “joking about a threesome” trick.

“What?! Oh, no I mean… I was just joking, honey. I’d never do that… I mean unless…”

dustyData ,

That always reeks of so much insecurity to me. Just own up to it. If you are in a relationship, “sure, I would do a threesome, but only if you actively want it too and we both agreed on the person and what was allowed or forbidden”. Not in a relationship, “Sure, I would be down for a threesome as long as the desires and limits of all people involved are discussed before hand and accepted by all”. There, with that attitude there’s less risk of confusion or misunderstanding.

ArmoredThirteen ,

Not sure why you’re getting down votes because this is the way. If you want something, be open and ask for consent. Just be okay with people saying no, too, and you’re good

JDPoZ ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

Actually 100% agree. Was more about the meme than real life though.

Communication, honesty, boundaries that are mutually agreed upon and respected is the sign of a healthy relationship… not any artificial external construct set by religion, peers, or some perceived “norm” from society.

That being said, I couldn’t think of a more clever comparison to make. 😅

werefreeatlast ,

No I didn’t mean I wanted to try but butt stuff! I was just kidding! Unless you’re into it honey 😜!

echodot ,

Yeah they don’t have any plans now. After getting shouted at by everyone.

This is just a symptom of the corporate insanity that believes that every year you must make more money than the previous year and simply making a large amount of money isn’t acceptable unless it’s going upwards.

It’s Logitech, they make keyboards and mice they’re not high value items. There’s no innovating that needs to happen here. I’m sure companies that manufacture staples, drawing pins, and paper clips could give them some pointers in calming down and just existing.

BarbecueCowboy ,

They never really did, it was a talking point brought up initially by the interviewer and they guided the CEO into responding to it so that they could have some clickbait headlines. CEO should have known better than to engage and they sure learned that lesson, they’re not going to be talking to that outlet again, but it’s really just shitty interviewing that created this entire news cycle.

machinin ,

The transcript is below. It looks like the CEO definitely had it in mind and was hesitant to say it directly. The interviewer did a good job of getting them to admit it.

Alwaysnownevernotme ,

So, it’s the interviewers job to not ask potentially embarrassing questions?

MeatsOfRage ,

I highly recommend the Decoder podcast from The Verge. The host Nilay Patel interviews the Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber and this comes up. He comes at the question earnestly but can’t understand how she tries to justify this. It’s a pretty fun listen. Link: theverge.com/…/logitech-ceo-hanneke-faber-mouse-k…

The transcript is there too if you just want to read it. Here’s some of the relavent bits.

What made the mouse a forever mouse?

It was a little heavier, it had great software and services that you’d constantly update, and it was beautiful. So I don’t think we’re necessarily super far away from that.

But, again, I just come back to the cost. You sell me the mouse once. Maybe I’ll pay 200 bucks for it.

The business model obviously is the challenge there. So then software is even more important when you think about it. Can you come up with a service model? In our video conferencing business, that is now a very important part of the model, the services, and it’s critical for corporate customers.

Let’s come to that in a second because that makes sense to me. You sell managed services to enterprises. You price support contracts for cameras and whatever. That’s an ongoing need businesses have. I’m still stuck on, “You’re going to sell me a mouse once and it’s going to have ongoing software updates forever.”

Imagine it’s like your Rolex. You’re going to really love that.

But Rolex has to employ software engineers to ship me over-the-air updates forever.

But the artifact is like your Rolex, and then given that we know the technology that we attach to changes, it’s not going to be like your Rolex in that it doesn’t have to ever change. Our stuff will have to change, but does the hardware have to change? I’m not so sure. We’ll have to obviously fix it and figure out what that business model is. We’re not at the forever mouse today, but I’m intrigued by the thought.>

…

I’m going to ask this very directly. Can you envision a subscription mouse?

Possibly.

And that would be the forever mouse?

Yeah.

So you pay a subscription for software updates to your mouse.

Yeah, and you never have to worry about it again, which is not unlike our video conferencing services today.

But it’s a mouse.

But it’s a mouse, yeah.

I think consumers might perceive those to be very different.

[Laughs] Yes, but it’s gorgeous. Think about it like a diamond-encrusted mouse.

borth ,

“Yeah, and you never have to worry about it again”, in regards to paying for updates. Just set it to auto pay and never worry about it again 🤑

conciselyverbose ,

Yes, but it’s gorgeous. Think about it like a diamond-encrusted mouse.

So thousands of dollars up front, then it doesn’t work if you don’t pay a $100/month subscription? Sounds awesome.

I_Miss_Daniel ,

Up next: mouse cartridges.

RustyShackleford ,

Imagine it’s like your Rolex. You’re going to really love that.

The fact he said this, makes you want to punch his smug face.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

Least out-of-touch CEO

Jambalaya ,

The ceo is a woman, FYI

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

sh-sh-sh-shaaa

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

Do people with a Rolex pay subscriptions for their disgustingly expensive watches?

RdVortex ,

But what about an AI mouse?

floofloof ,

You’re in luck!

logitech.com/…/signature-ai-edition-m750-wireless…

QuadratureSurfer ,
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, a mouse with an extra button that can only be used to launch some process which opens up a window to ChatGPT. What a great use of AI!

Click for more info here!/s

Ilovethebomb ,

Eh, the mouse itself just has a dedicated button to launch something, that’s not so bad.

It would have been a better option to set it up so you could launch almost any program with it, but oh well.

NarrativeBear ,

Logitech, buy one of the three tiers based on your needs. 10 clicks a day, 15 clicks a day, or unlimited daily click.

Disclaimer: right click or scroll wheel not included, please purchase add-on package

ByteOnBikes ,

Vim users laughing that they can get by on the cheapest tier.

lunarul ,

I never use my mouse at all in vim

corsicanguppy ,

You just burn your hands out faster with the higher numbers of up/down motions to get the work done.

solarvector ,

Logitech mice always get better with age, they give you extra clicks for free with each touch of the button!

mosiacmango ,

Double your Dota APM with this one weird double click!

ObsidianZed ,

I would love to see more movement on an open source mouse. I know there are some options out there but it seems like nothing has really stuck.

With 3d printing and the RP2040, these should be more abundant.

I’m sure it probably comes down to the sensors available, but I’d love for someone like Adafruit to offer options.

maruudn ,

The Ploopy is pretty popular.

trougnouf ,

I’m still replacing switches on my stupid Logitech MX (faulty design that’s been going for many years) but once it’s dead for good I will switch over to the Ploopy thumb trackball in a heartbeat.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

Oof, no bluetooth. Has to be cabled!

homesweethomeMrL ,

CEO: says stupid shit

Corporate Comms: sigh CLEANUP ON AISLE 3

ichbinjasokreativ ,

They do have great products, they just need to learn, like basically all corpos, to just shut up.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

Damage control.

rustyricotta ,

But they’ll implement a one time fee to change your dpi, and then a few years after that it’ll be subscription.

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