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chevy9294 ,

I’m waiting for Gmail, it has to be soon :)

Dead_or_Alive ,

No the NSA, CIA, FBI and all the other alphabet agencies would never allow it.

bitwaba ,

Alphabet agencies and Alphabet companies.

Name a more iconic duo

corsicanguppy ,

Name a more iconic duo

Microsoft and Sobbing.

_pete_ ,

I feel the original Chromecast was probably the last truly great original Google product, it was simple, it was inexpensive and it worked - you just plugged it in, joined your network and you were off, there really wasn’t anything like it at the time.

I really hate what they’ve become.

bam13302 ,

What changed? I thought that is still what they did.

CameronDev ,

Chromecast with Google TV made the “simple” casting worse for some apps like Netflix. Instead of it casting directly, it would spawn the Netflix app and make you use the remote to reselect the show you wanted to see.

_pete_ ,

I feels like they either badly copy (see Gemini) or don’t think about what they’re offering (see Stadia’s busted business model) they’re content to milk the existing services they’ve already got and make them worse by cramming in more ads (see YouTube, Google’s search result pages) and they cut out or dictate the web through their monopolies (see AMP and Chrome) rather than working with other parties to make good products.

They feel like Hooli in Silicon Valley, basically the definition of a fat tech giant who doesn’t do any innovation of their own.

ealoe ,

Badly copy (see Gemini)

Tf are you smoking dude, Google has been working on AI long before ChatGPT was a twinkle in Sam Altman’s eye. They didn’t release any public models because they wanted to go about it safely and not just dump the world’s best misinformation creator on the open market for anyone to use with little safeguards. All that went out the window when ChatGPT got all the press and google decided they wanted a piece of the hype, but pretending they “didn’t do any innovation of their own” in regards to AI is ludicrous. They have been at the forefront of AI development for the last decade, and the fact you think otherwise shows your only knowledge about AI is from after ChatGPT headlines started coming out.

Quill7513 ,

What’s funny is that was actually the start of them becoming who they are now. There’s a litany of evidence they stole the Chromecast technology

Amir ,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

Literally all my friends know the name “Chromecast”, why would you rename it

Venator ,

Why does Google do any of the dumb shit they do?

darkevilmac ,
@darkevilmac@lemmy.zip avatar

To justify the salaries of their product managers

2pt_perversion ,

Chromecast naming scheme did get weird - it’s difficult for someone who doesn’t follow these things to know if they want the chromecast ultra or chromecast with google tv. I agree though they should have just called the new product something like “Chromecast Box 2025”.

SomeGuy69 ,
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

and then add TV to it, is this now advertised to seniors?

Ilovethebomb ,

In place of the Chromecast, the company will offer the newly announced $99.99 Google TV Streamer,

They’re replacing it with a very similar product. Nothing to see here.

LaggyKar ,
@LaggyKar@programming.dev avatar

A more expensive, clunkier product, with a bunch of needless fluff in it.

DampSquid ,

Enshitification 101

fraksken ,

For which they will be able to offer subscriptions in a year or 2.

NegativeInf ,

You mean twice the ram (1 gig more than the shield), 4 times the storage (32 gigs), and a better remote (chirping find my remote feature, programmable button, and less shitty volume buttons)?

Yep. Sure sounds worse considering it also supports all the same features of the chromecast 4k and AV1 decoding.

sanpo ,

They’re supposedly using pretty much the same chipset. So the most important part is still underpowered, these Android boxes generally work fine even with 2-3GBs of RAM.

NegativeInf ,

From OP article

such as a processor that’s 22 percent faster

sanpo ,

It’s supposed to use S905X3 with ARM Cortex-A55.

There’s already plenty of devices on the market with this chip, and it’s fine, but in real world as a user you won’t really see any improvement over something like a nearly 10 year old Nvidia Shield that’s still using a more powerful chipset.

Which is sad for a new device…

NegativeInf ,

Does Nvidia even make new mobile chipsets still? At least… Relatively cheaply? I know there’s something of an Nvidia tax.

sanpo ,

I don’t think so. Maybe they’ll have something new for the next Nintendo Switch?

In fact, the Shield is using the same chip as the Switch (same for the newer revisions).

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Regular Chromecast work perfectly as YouTube jukebox.

NegativeInf ,

What do you mean regular Chromecast?

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

What do you mean regular Chromecast?

Just regular Chromecast, not that Google TV stuff. That round dongle that does nothing but accept casting streams via that cast button in many Android apps.

NegativeInf ,

So the one from 2013? Sure. It was fine for that. This is a different thing, as not every device, service, or whatever supports casting. I wish they did, but they don’t.

Secondarily, I don’t want to use a screen to control a screen. I prefer a physical remote that I can have muscle memory for.

But I get why people liked the device. I did too. But fortunately or unfortunately, it’s been 10 years and technology has moved. Which is probably why they are giving this a new name being an generally good upgrade on the last Chromecast 4K.

Christ, this one even has a built in Ethernet port and doesn’t put strain on my HDMI port by just dangling there.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

So the one from 2013? Sure. It was fine for that. This is a different thing, as not every device, service, or whatever supports casting. I wish they did, but they don’t.

Well, the story is about Google ending that line of products.

NegativeInf ,

With a direct successor product that contains all the same features as the last Chromecast device. If you are mourning the loss of the casting only Chromecast, that died long ago production-wise.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

If you are mourning the loss of the casting only Chromecast, that died long ago production-wise.

Late 2022 is not long ago.

NegativeInf ,

The last casting only device (Chromecast Gen3) was originally released in 2018 (6 years ago). They stopped selling it in 2022. And it is still supported with updates. They supported the original with 10 years of updates. If all ya wanna do is cast, keep using it. I personally want more than a cast point.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I personally want more than a cast point.

Great. Where did I say you cannot have that? You’re acting weirdly defensively for something nobody is trying to take away from you. OK, maybe Google will in 2 years. All I said was that for casting the regular Chromecast is fine and you’re turning that into something overly emotional for no reason.

NegativeInf ,

I’m not emotional, I just find the rage about this topic insane as they legit just changed the name of a product and gave it good iterative upgrades over the previous model by addressing their customer pain points. Especially when the casting feature is now highly integrated across most modern devices. It’s not like someone said they will never make a cheaper device than this one. And frankly, if one wants to point to enshittification of Google products, there are much better places to point than their hardware division.

Sorry if I appear emotional? I don’t feel emotional. I’m just responding in a way I feel is rational to the barrage of comments replying to me. If anything, there seems to be an emotional charge in the opposite direction. But I’m sure that’s just in my reading 20 of them directed at me. I’m genuinely excited about this product because it shows that Google cares about a product I like to the point where they want to make it better.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not emotional, I just find the rage about this topic insane

Yes, you are and you must have me confused with someone else because I made no emotional / rageful comments. The only emotional between you and me is you and I don’t care to engage any longer.

saltesc ,

Yeah, I have a smart TV and would appreciate some faster processing in there. Or if I can flash a simplified ROM, but dunno if those exist. As long as I get control over what it does, I’d take it. Can just Velcro it on the back of the TV so it’s invisible.

NegativeInf ,

I have a smart TV as well, but refuse to connect it directly to wifi. As I tried that when I bought it and it insta-bricked itself and had to go through the hassle of returning a delivered TV.

A custom ROM for this device would be interesting. I know that the Chromecast 4K can do a custom ROM, but only if it was running an older os version before you flash it, as the bootloader couldn’t be unlocked after.

wewbull ,

My Chromecast has no storage and no remote. It’s fine.

NegativeInf ,

Cool. Keep using it.

SkaveRat ,

until they decide that their new device needs more sales, so they depricate the protocol and you can’t use it anymore

NegativeInf ,

Deprecate the casting protocol? Sure Jan. The new device still supports casting.

MimicJar ,

They killed support for the first gen Chromecast and the YouTube “app” has been broken for 3+ years. They’ll just stop supporting it one day and you’ll have to buy a new one.

IsThisAnAI ,

Oh no, my $40 device won’t work after ELEVEN years. I’m being abused!

lung ,
@lung@lemmy.world avatar

Truly a golden era

bionicjoey ,

You haven’t been paying attention to Google in the last few years, have you?

AbidanYre ,

Chromecast ultras are already broken if you try to use your own DNS.

LaggyKar ,
@LaggyKar@programming.dev avatar

Until services stop supporting it.

Tanoh ,

And ethernet port!

NegativeInf ,

Yes! I hadn’t seen that highlighted anywhere in articles really, only saw it on the damn Google Store after looking just now.

Seems an all around solid update on the previous device.

Dasnap ,
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

Just gotta stick FLauncher, SmartTube, Jellyfin, and Stremio on it and it seems solid.

NegativeInf ,

And now I can install all those things without worrying about my internal storage filling to capacity!

damo_omad ,

I changed from FLauncher to Projectivity Launcher a little while ago and definitely recommend it

Dasnap ,
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

My wife is used to FLauncher and will probably get annoyed if I change the Shield’s interface (again…) but maybe I’ll try it out on the Google TV Chromecast I have for holiday trips.

LaggyKar ,
@LaggyKar@programming.dev avatar

You can get an Ethernet adapter for the Chromecast

lud ,

Yeah, exactly. You needed to buy an extra adapter before. Now you don’t.

LaggyKar ,
@LaggyKar@programming.dev avatar

None of which changes the fact that it’s more expensive and clunkier, and none of which feels necessary.

variants ,

I don’t need any of that. I just need a cheap dongle that can run one app

MeatsOfRage , (edited )

The dongle still works. They reached market saturation with people who just want a dongle. They can’t realistically be expected to produce these forever.

Edit

Classic Lemmy. Point out that these are not charities and companies can’t keep producing niche products that you aren’t buying but maybe potentially want to buy someday and get thrown down votes. Sorry folks whether you like it or not it’s the truth. Companies like to sell things and if these were actually being bought enough to make a profit they wouldn’t be discontinued. Your TV probably has this feature built in now.

variants ,

I mean I’d hope so because eventually this one I have won’t work like the previous one so I’d like a similar product when that happens not this 99 dollar box thing. I guess I hope someone else will continue making cheap dongles I think walmart has their own thing

Blue_Morpho ,

So when the current dongle breaks and you just want another, what do you buy?

moody ,

Most of the appeal of the Chromecast is that it’s a dongle you plug in once and never have to see again. It doesn’t need high performance and 32 gigs of RAM. It needs to play video. That’s its entire purpose. It’s controlled by any phone on your wifi, it doesn’t need a remote.

For most users, this is an expensive downgrade.

Ilovethebomb ,

Now with AI!

I’m not sure why they didn’t just call it the chrome cast gen whatever though.

MagicShel ,

So you could just ask it for anything and it could make it up?

“Google, show ‘Ow! My Balls!’”

Ilovethebomb ,

I wonder how far away we are from AI being able to create video on demand like that?

MagicShel ,

I think overall it’ll never be able to create quality entertainment.

But Ow! My Balls! isn’t quality entertainment. I’m sure it can create all kinds of clips of things smashing into groins for ultra low-brow entertainment. Probably today.

Ilovethebomb ,

Shitposting is one area where I have no issues using AI.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

They’re replacing it with a very similar product. Nothing to see here.

Like they do with messengers every couple of years.

Ilovethebomb ,

Or music streaming apps.

lemming741 ,

Seemed monthly at one point 🤣

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

and before that they already replaced it with google tv with chromecast

Thann ,
@Thann@lemmy.ml avatar

Similar product that costs 4 times as much and has AI features…

SomeGuy69 ,
@SomeGuy69@lemmy.world avatar

On another news “Why is everyone hating google now?” lol

_sideffect ,

Let’s hope this doesn’t only support FAT32 so we can actually add movies to it

108 ,

Another one for the graveyard

thezeesystem ,

Me - Ok Google, give me a open source way to turn my raspberry pi into a 4k streaming box.

Google - Got it. Playing Tyler Swift on living room tv

Me - wtf?

manucode ,
@manucode@infosec.pub avatar

A new entry to killedbygoogle.com?

MeatsOfRage ,

Eh, not really. This product had a full run, will continue to work and the features are all still available in their newer products. Killed by Google usually implies they have a service that just ceases to exist.

Gloria ,

“Yes I know the customer learned that product name and has a good connotation with it, but how about we change the name to something completely different?”

Quill7513 ,

“Our current product offering is less than $50. We were thinking the next iteration should be $300”

variants ,

Damm I’ve used these to stream my security cameras to portable monitors around the house. I hope they keep working

praise_idleness ,

Get a pi, people. There are very few reasons you would want Chromecast.

Luvs2Spuj ,

Size and portability.? Ease of use?

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Very few reasons for people with technical ability, which the Fediverse overrepresents. It's easy to get the idea that anyone can pick up something like a Pi and install and configure an OS image on it. It seems simple to us, but 95% of people will not/cannot do this. They have better things to do than learn IT skills.

LainTrain , (edited )

RIP to a real one.

Back in the day when streaming was cheap as hell and made sense as all things were on Netflix, having a Home Mini with and a Chromecast was bliss.

I used to have a shortcut for the phrase “I’m so tired”, it would start playing Star Trek TNG from Netflix on the Chromecast monitor and it just werked. Saved me from a bad trip once too, I was really uncomfortable on 135ug so in a desperate attempt to hold onto reality I said “alexa…uhmm…uh…hey google play RoboCop” and it just worked.

Only thing is it played the wrong RoboCop (2014) but that only distracted me from spiraling further, like “hold up Samuel L Jackson was in this?”

It feels weird to say but I was a genuinely happy customer. Then the home mini stopped working as well, started triggering by itself, didn’t hear words right, then the Chromecast had trouble updating firmware and rebooting. Then Netflix platformed that douchebag chapelle.

Now all that’s left of it is the pihole I used to block ads for it.

2pt_perversion ,

I guess onn is going to completely take over the low price streaming box market then.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i mean not surprising since google tv with chromecast has been superior and the next logical step for it

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