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RememberTheApollo_ ,

Thanks for reaffirming why I refuse to use Chrome.

moitoi ,
@moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m using Firefox or forks.

GoogleSellsAds ,
@GoogleSellsAds@sh.itjust.works avatar

With the direction FF is taking it’s gonna be forks for now.

The only thing that held me back from using LibreWolf over Firefox was that it disabled (automatic) dark mode on websites. I understand this is part of the “resist fingerprinting” configuration. There’s a workaround now ( bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732114).

In about:config update these 3 preferences:

  • privacy.resistFingerprinting = false
  • privacy.fingerprintingProtection = true
  • privacy.fingerprintingProtection.overrides = +AllTargets,-CSSPrefersColorScheme
Chakravanti ,

Dark Reader

HawlSera ,

Oh no uses FirefoxAnyway…

art ,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

They started putting ads in Windows, a few users switched, but most still continue Windows.

Google will roll this out and a few users will switch, but most will just keep using Chrome.

We’ve already established that most users don’t seem to care.

StormWalker ,

I am one that switched. I have Linux Mint which I use 99.9% of the time, and a windows 10 laptop that I use 0.1% for that one windows program.

I think more people are wanting to get out of the grip that google, apple, and Microsoft have over them. Many are overwhelmed because they are in so deep. It took me months to get out, which I did about 6 years ago. I never looked back though. I know people that want out, but are not strong enough to commit to switching all their services and apps.

trafficnab ,

Seeing that half of my extensions (it was seriously like 10 of them) were going to be disabled is what pushed me to finally switch to Firefox because if I have to find alternatives to them it might as well be on another browser

pete_the_cat ,

The reason for this is because switching from Windows to Linux is a lot bigger change, requiring a fair amount of technical know-how, and even knowing that Linux exists in the first place. Swapping browsers is easy in the technical sense, it’s breaking the habit that’s the hard part, but if they piss people off enough all it takes is uninstalling it in order to break the habit, not a drastic paradigm shift. I’m a long time Chrome user, like over a decade and with the recent “unverified download” nonsense unless you enable their invasive tracking has put me over the edge. I had both the Chrome and Firefox icons pinned to the taskbar and just out of habit kept clicking it, I finally removed it last week

golden_zealot , (edited )
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not so sure about that. Windows despite its ads is still generally usable or at least readable, but adblockers affect almost every website, and in a much more extreme way, without which renders some websites virtually unusable. As someone else said, installing another browser is also far easier than taking backups, installing an entirely new OS, implementing your backups, and learning an entire new OS which may not readily support the software you have licensed from windows for most users.

Users care a lot about convenience. I expect that they weigh installing and learning linux etc as less convenient than the ads in windows which is why they would not switch, but I expect when it comes to this case, they would weigh installing a different browser with adblock as much more convenient than using the internet with ads on every single website.

pissclumps ,

Good riddance then. Fuck chrome

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

I rlly hate how some sites don’t work on Firefox

Akareth ,

Same. For me, the big one’s my bank that requires its users to use Chrome, else it won’t let you log in. I got around this by using an agent-switcher extension in Firefox.

Enekk ,

I’m showing my age, but back when IE was basically the only browser and Firefox (Firebird back then) launched, people often lamented that things didn’t work in Firefox. The solution? People used Firefox and web developers were forced to make their shit work in Firefox. When Chrome came out, suddenly we had three real options and the way to make everything work? Open Standards.

Now, Chrome is in the position IE was back before Firefox came around. How ever will we make sure things work in Firefox??? Use Firefox. If enough people dump Google’s malware browser, the web has to go back to supporting multiple browsers through open standards.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Real

Squizzy ,

Thing is Google’s influence on Firefox is making it a worse company and browser as AI and privacy invading features take over.

InternetUser2012 ,

User agent switcher. I have zero issues since using it.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Gonna try later

Retrograde ,
@Retrograde@lemmy.world avatar

Which sites?

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Snapchat

BruceTwarzen ,

And nothing of value was lost.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

I need it for one of my irl friends

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Have you reported issues for them? It’s in the menu somewhere. If Mozilla get a lot of reports for particular sites, they reach out to the webmaster and try to work with them to improve Firefox support - usually by removing proprietary Chrome-only features or by removing reliance on Chrome bugs that don’t exist in Firefox.

You can also report the issue at webcompat.com, just search to see if it’s already been reported first.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

You can do that?

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Yeah. Just checked on my computer. Open the menu then click “Report broken site” near the bottom.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Oh okay

Shatpoz1288 ,

The more people use Firefox, the more web devs will be forced to ensure their website works on Firefox.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

True

buddascrayon ,

I guess it’s a good thing I’m on Firefox now instead of Chrome.

irish_link ,

Glad I have firefox as well but also looking forward to a cool new project called Ladybird. ladybird.org

Not sure if its the right one but glad there are more projects out there trying to jump into the game. (I know extensions are a long way off for it but i see it as hope.)

Also please consider running pihole or adguard home. Or any other full home DNS add blocker. It will help.

Jarmer ,

Ladybird looks great! Very much looking forward to an alpha linux release so I can use it and give all kind of feedback.

itsnotits ,

if it’s* the right one

AceTKen ,
@AceTKen@lemmy.ca avatar

Looks like what I’d want to use, but to reach broad support it needs a Windows client as well.

daniskarma ,

Google needs to be ended.

figaro ,

When people say things like this, I wonder if they understand how impossible it is. Google is not just a company. It is a 2 trillion dollar entity. Even if Google search entirely fails, it will still persist. At this point, you may as well say, “The wind needs to be ended.” You don’t end the wind. The wind already won. It will outlive you, me, and our children.

What we can do is protect against it. We can deal with it. We can contain it. We can redirect it and repurpose it to be helpful. But ending it? That doesn’t happen.

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

When people say things like this, I wonder if they understand how impossible it is. The King isn’t just a powerful man. He is a divine being.

I mean money is just as made up as the divine right of kings, and it will end one day.

AhismaMiasma ,

They said the same about the divine right of kings.

calcopiritus ,

IBM fell. Ford fell. Facebook (the social media site, not the company) fell. Yahoo fell.

Sure, they haven’t stopped existing, but their relevance is nowhere near their peak. There’s no such thing as “too big to fall”.

GoogleSellsAds ,
@GoogleSellsAds@sh.itjust.works avatar

Most people here have a device in their pocket with either Google hardware or Google software. If even the nerds with a passion against ads can’t not buy something from the biggest ad company, who can?

ohlaph ,

Google Chrome is about to be disabled? Got it.

FangedWyvern42 ,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

🖕

occhionaut ,

🖕🖕

backup has arrived

sugar_in_your_tea ,

🖕🖕🖕

Hmm, not sure how I managed that…

hamburgers ,

Eww

archchan ,

Google sneezes and your future is stolen by an ad that’s selling it back to you. Google is too big to exist.

angelmountain ,

Let this be my warning to Google that I will never go back to their browser when they do. Challas! ✌️

Summzashi ,

I reckon they’re absolutely shaking with fear by your warning.

WhatYouNeed ,

I am user. Hear me roar!

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

There it is. Firefox and Librewolf will guide us out of this mess.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I honestly can’t wait to see how this plays out. Only Chrome, chromium and edge in their pure forms have dedicated to doing this. Most of the Chrome forks have said they’re going to fork and keep it running. It’s certainly going to give Firefox a shot in the arm, but there’s no lack of other competition either.

olympicyes ,

It’s probably 95% of windows users then who are affected by this.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Oh yeah easily.

OhmsLawn ,

Especially those at work who can’t install their own software.

Scrollone ,

I don’t know how long the forks will be able to backport new features to their forked codebase.

I think the only sensible solution is to just switch to Firefox.

ipkpjersi ,

Eventually Firefox will switch to V3 anyway so it’s kind of just delaying the inevitable.

It sucks that this is the future of the Internet.

mint_tamas ,

Manifest v3 is already supported in Firefox (they must support it to keep the extension ecosystem alive), but they implemented it without the user-hostile restrictions.

ipkpjersi ,

Oh, I wasn’t aware of that, I thought the user-hostile restrictions were inherent to Manifest v3 and they were unavoidable.

Okay, maybe just maybe Firefox squeaks by unharmed then.

edit: I literally just had someone else tell me just now that “It’s not something that can be worked around. It’s specifically a design feature of manifest v3 to restrict these types of things.”

So which is it? I’m kind of getting mixed signals here.

edit 2: Oh, it sounds like Google has additional arbitrary restrictions on content blocking functionality, beyond what Manifest V3 itself has.

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