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TheTimeKnife ,
@TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world avatar

Google needs to be broken up by government.

ArugulaZ ,

It saddens me to agree with this. Who knew Google would become as oppressive as fucking MICROSOFT?

tahoe , (edited )

« Don’t be evil »

😬😬😬😬

Zacryon ,
@Zacryon@feddit.org avatar

They ditched that in 2018. It was long overdue. At least somewhat honest about themselves.

Grandwolf319 ,

Most smart people who understood capitalism did.

NekkoDroid ,
@NekkoDroid@programming.dev avatar

It really wouldn’t change anything in the long run. Any company that creates a browser is gonna need some form of income and people aren’t willing to pay for a browser. What would be their incentive to continue to work on the browser when they aren’t being paid?

humorlessrepost ,

Same as Firefox. Let search engines (including google) pay them a fair market rate to make them the default browser.

voluble ,

I hear the term ‘broken up’ a lot in media and discourse, but it’s never explained. In your eyes, what actually happens when a government ‘breaks up’ a corporation? I mean, what are the steps, objectives, and outcomes?

Not being adversarial, I’m just curious.

boatswain ,

Not the person you’re asking, but my general understanding is that different products would be required to be their own companies, so advertising, Android, and Chrome would all be separate businesses.

Verat ,

I envision it like AT&T’s break-up, where the singular Google is broken up into regional companies that will (hopefully) have to compete with each other.

BassTurd ,

I use chromium for one thing, and it’s casting live sports to my Chromecast. My plans to implement a HTPC have just been expedited.

Lightsong ,

I use Firefox but when I watch twitch or wherever, I need Google chrome’s live caption to see what streamers say.

Firefox please get this feature asap. So I can delete Google chrome for good.

scrion ,

No idea where you’d like to use live captions, but n maybe this helps:

github.com/abb128/LiveCaptions

chalupapocalypse ,

Will a pihole fill this void?

adarza ,

i’ve got a few using the mv3 ‘lite’ version of ubo here. seems to be sufficient–for now.

iturnedintoanewt ,
@iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

Not at the same level. Ublock can remove way more granular spam and ads than pihole, which is limited at DNS requests. I use both… Running Firefox of course.

KillingTimeItself ,

its also available on firefox, de manifested version of chromium are likely to crop up, idk. Depends on how cancer it is to rip that shit out.

TheOneCurly ,

Re-manifested? To fix it you have to reenable manifest v2. That should be simple for a while but will get more problematic over time.

KillingTimeItself ,

de v3 versions, obviously. Mozilla has no intentions of implementing it, and if chrome kills v2, it’s not impossible that mozilla can hit them with an anti trust case and win, considering this is arguably what that would be.

But it will probably start to break on individual shitty websites over time, as per usual unfortunately.

Wiz ,

Switching to Firefox might!

chalupapocalypse ,

I’m already on Firefox, I just meant in general

JovialSodium , (edited )

To an extent. But it wouldn’t surprise me at all if sometime in the near future they force the use their own DNS servers within their browser instead of respecting your network configuration.

The best solution to circumventing Chrome’s bad behavior is to not use it.

Edit: speiling

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

Man you gotta edit this again, you miss spelled spelling.

MutilationWave ,

You misspelled misspelled.

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

I’m just living up to my username!

tinfoilhat ,

I’ll just side load it. Fuck you Google

roofuskit ,

Good thing I ditched Chrome the moment I heard about their plans.

jay ,
@jay@mbin.zerojay.com avatar

The one and only thing keeping me on Chrome... well, Ungoogled Chromium... is the webassembly performance which is just abysmal in comparison on Firefox, sadly.

ronalicious ,

I only use chrome for things that require my Google account.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

use google container for firefox :)

cheeseburger ,
@cheeseburger@lemmy.ca avatar

Neat!

drdalek ,

Never a better a time to join Mozilla Gang.

-Message brought to you by Mozilla Gang

seaQueue ,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

And a hearty Rest In Piss to Chrome as well

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Cool, just let me know. My girlfriend uses chrome. I’m happy to set her up with Firefox whenever y’all want to jump the shark.

cmnybo ,

Thank goodness there is more than one browser available.

Persen ,

And most are chrome.

ArbitraryValue ,

Bring back Internet Explorer.

KrapKake ,

I don’t think I’ve seen that sentence.

Death_Equity ,

It’s 2024, madness rules these times. Witness the fall of Rome, heralded by a blue “e”.

cm0002 ,

I would rather eternally sign my soul over to Chrome-hell than spend 5 minutes with Internet Explorer ever again

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

That’s one way to say that you like the smell of lead-based gasoline.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

You spelled Netscape Navigator wrong.

cactopuses ,

I mean that’s just Firefox :p

ArbitraryValue ,

Netscape Navigator is spelled “Firefox”.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

I tried to look that up on Alta Vista but kept getting a 404 for that site.

tiredofsametab ,

As someone who started in tech support in 2000 and is a software developer now: absolutely not.

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Good thing I stopped using Chrome

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

So, what they're saying is: Chrome will have severely decreased functionality and users will no longer be able to protect themselves from sketchy ads that contain scams, malware, and other nefarious bullshit (often hosted on Google's own ad networks)?

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

What are you expecting, a corp to… ah… uh… not be evil, or something? :-P

Quexotic ,

Thank you very much for summoning Jeff Goldblum’s voice into my head.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

I… uh, found a way:-D.

tibi ,

Google is primarily an ad company

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@discuss.online avatar

It did not always used to be this way, though it was always headed here.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Users can still use ad blockers. Users will be safer from malicious extensions sending all your web traffic to an untrusted party.

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Nope

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. Facts.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

You seem to be struggling with the term "facts"

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Is your feelings facts to you? Which fact specifically am I struggling with? Do you have anything concrete to say at all or are you just going to keep being vague because of feelings?

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Whew, kinda weird to find a Google employee on lemmy. I would have thought there were rules against that in the would employee handbook.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t work for Google. Are you in a cult or an anti-opensource PR firm? Why would that be your first instinct in response to facts? Go read the beginners guide to MV3. Maybe you could learn a thing or two before talking about feelings.

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

You gave no facts, just opinions.

And if you aren’t aware, astroturfing is a thing.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

Of course they're aware, they're doing it right now.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

I gave you facts about MV3. It is also explained at the beginning of the uBOL GitHub page which even acknowledges MV3 adds protections to users with some filtering tradeoffs. Those tradeoffs can be implemented in other ways but it is more work and would require other software. I am not here saying Google is perfect or that MV3 is perfect, but it does make installing extensions more secure for the average user. If you don’t agree then be specific. This vagueness that you keep utilizing without providing any details at all to try to make a point is a clear sign that you honestly have no clue what you’re talking about.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

Yeah, that's not even how Ublock Origin fucking works, what a hilariously ignorant take.

timewarp , (edited )
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Did I say that the author of uBlock Origin actually reads your traffic? No I didn’t, so stop the bad faith arguments. I said that MV2 exposed users to malicious extensions that were able to do that. Most features of uBO work fine with uBOL. Not everything does though, and I do acknowledge that. I’m just saying MV3 does make a majority of users safer overall.

conciselyverbose ,

Seeing all your traffic is required for an ad blocker to function correctly.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

An ad blocker doesn’t need to see your traffic to function. That is the point of the declarative APIs. It is supposed to help protect users from malicious extensions and some forms of malicious software.

conciselyverbose ,

Yes, it absolutely does.

An adblocker has unconditional complete control of my browser because I want it to have unconditional complete control of my browser, because it cannot do what I want it to any other way. Taking that control away from me is malicious by definition. It’s more malicious when every single person on the planet with a shred of tech knowledge knows with certainty that it’s for the sole purpose of boosting Google’s ad revenue at the expense of their users.

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