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zcd ,

Fuck youtube

illi ,

Since it is server side, will this effect the alternative front ends?

magic_lobster_party ,

That’s the point. They want to stop people bypassing ads by using alternative front ends. If they succeed with server side ads, then it’s going to be difficult to block ads. Maybe not impossible, but difficult.

illi ,

That’s what I figured, but I’m not expert on how things work so wanted someone who knows more chime in. Sad times

roofuskit ,

It won’t, you’ll just use an app that pre downloads all your favorite channels and scans them for ads so it can auto skip them.

magic_lobster_party ,

It’s maybe doable, but figuring out where ads start and end in a video file isn’t necessarily trivial. The app must know what to look for, and YouTube might try to obfuscate it to make it harder.

Restaldt ,

Trust in the Foss.

If it pisses people off enough they will manually create a database of videos and ad timestamps for removal if it can’t be easily automated.

magic_lobster_party ,

Database of ad timestamps like sponsorblock only works if ads happens at the same timestamps (and are of equal length). This is not necessarily the case.

The only reliable way I can come up with is a database of ads to look for, but that can be huge to accommodate for all possible ads. There’s also risk of false positives (risk of skipping video when there are no ad).

DevCat ,
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Yet another reason I’m glad I use youtube-dl.

empireOfLove2 ,

If they’re truly server-side injected, then they would also appear permanently in any downloaded copy because the servere would be telling the client what pieces are available-including the ad pieces.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

At least I can trim those away if needed.

aedelred ,
@aedelred@lemmy.world avatar

At least if still downloads them you can edit them out if it’s something you want to save.

shortwavesurfer , (edited )

New article title. YouTube tests more ways of making their service shit and driving away users.

Edit: TIFO Scott Manley is on Odysee so i will start watching him there instead. One less yt channel is always a good thing

Wogi ,

I mean, if you’re not paying for it, and they can’t advertise to you, what do they need you for?

Fiivemacs ,

To keep claiming they have x billion accounts…

There’s a big reason why these companies don’t remove the bots and willingly allow them to do whatever. It boosts their numbers to inflate their actual worth.

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

at least on my part, what they get from channel memberships (a whopping 30%) I’m sure exceeds the amount in ad revenue they lose from me

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

Does YouTube have competition? Your line of inquiry doesn’t mean much if the content is only on YouTube.

Wogi ,

I’m not sure what point you think you’re making.

YouTube doesn’t want you visiting if they can’t either put ads in front of you or get you to subscribe to premium. I appreciate wanting to access YouTube without ads, but from where they’re sitting, if they scare you off with server side ads all the better.

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

Simply put: why care about their point of view? Google does not have your best interests in mind, often the opposite. There’s no where else to get almost all of the content, why do without or waste time with ads in this short life.

Wogi ,

YouTube could fall off the face of the earth and I would probably see my quality of life improve slightly.

I don’t give a shit about Google. Perspective here is important when you threaten to leave the platform all together, as if they would care. If you’re one of the users they gain no ad revenue or subscription revenue from, they’re probably happy to see you go.

Could they be doing more to try to turn Adblock users in to paid subscribers? Sure. I’m not here to defend their methods. I’m just saying that if you’re not paying, and you can’t be served ads, they really don’t care if you continue to use the service or not.

unexposedhazard ,

Youtube is google No 1 source of machine learning content. Fuckloads of video, audio and subtitle data they can use to feed and train their systems. Youtube itself doesnt need to make profit, thats just a bonus for them.

Wogi ,

YouTube advertising is more than 10% of Google services total profits.

That’s not a bonus, that’s a dependant revenue stream.

Cypher ,

I did pay for it but they massively increased the price while the recommendation algorithm was deliberately made worse and they wouldn’t stop pushing short format videos.

IsThisAnAI ,

YouTube: oh no, the freeloaders costing us money are going away, what will we ever do!?

urheber ,

fucking YouTube, am i right?

no seriously, havent used it in months, and weirdly dont Miss it. i used to watch YouTube the whole day.

ModernRisk ,
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May I ask what do you use for content instead of YouTube? A lot of certain people I follow are on YouTube and music that I listen to are often only on YouTube these days. Not even Spotify has the niche songs (mainly Arabic and Japanese songs).

urheber ,

well, i would never even think of using it for music (except downloading what i cant find) same with spotify (i hate streaming). I just watched regular videos, which I just suddenly don’t do anymore, I started binging TV shows instead, -no ads .

I just couldn’t bare the ads, they’re that bad. and when I think of stuff that makes me mad, I can’t do anything associated with it, I.e. watch YouTube -know there will be ads (or not, because i have an adblocker) the mere thought that there WOULD be ads is so annoying to me, that I cannot stand watching YouTube.

but yeah back to the point, TV shows, and books, especially books have been my replacement, and I must say, they are much better.

fjordbasa ,

What do you mean by “regular videos”?

TheGrandNagus ,

Not music videos.

downpunxx OP ,

Just got hit with this for the first time, and at first I was like what the fuck is this happening here, I'm running Firefox latest, and UBlock origin latest, never seen this before. Happening for every video, two injected video ads before the video, seem skippable, but i'm not clicking on them. Hope UBlock catches up to this quick, this sucks.

ShunkW ,

Mine are getting trapped by pihole. They take 10 seconds to time out and just show a banner ad that won’t automatically go away without hitting the skip button. It’s really frustrating since I liked letting videos auto play as I fall asleep.

downpunxx OP ,

at least it's not currently spawning an actual video advertisement, so, small blessings, the two injected ads stay static for 10 seconds a piece (makes sense), and if you don't click skip, the first tiers to the second then tiers to the video (was thinking of going pihole but you just confirmed it won't make a difference, if they start injecting autoplay video ads, then it'll be back on my todo list)

ShunkW ,

There’s a comment in this thread with a ubo custom filter that’s working for me.

downpunxx OP ,

yup, just tried that too, and after a reboot, it's working for me too

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