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NeoNachtwaechter ,

A Tesla engineer said the test was done wrong because the frunk increases in pressure every time.

“You are holding it wrong!” 🤣

EdibleFriend OP ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Of course it just keeps hitting harder when things are in the way.

Literally Tesla’s response

NeoNachtwaechter ,

The vehicles deny reality, same as their creator…

cley_faye ,

I’m sure these “engineers” were confused everytime they saw an elevator door not mercilessly crush people.

barsquid ,

This breakthrough technology could finally provide a way to teach people on the MTA not to hold the doors.

gian ,

Nope, but they probably know that an elevator doors and a car lid are two completely different thing with different use cases and security concerns.

cley_faye ,

They sure did not know about the “not crushing human limbs” part.

gian ,

Obviously.

But let’s face it: if the car lid would never close if something is in the way, some other dumb youtuber would have made a video about it and here there would be a discussion about how stupid are the engineers to not let the lid close even if a bag in slightly on on the way and the user know what they are doing.

cley_faye ,

You’re missing the point of a safety feature. The car shouldn’t, by itself, close the lid if something’s in the way. It should allow the user to push it down, or disable it temporarily, to do so.

The point of a safety feature in any system is to prevent unexpected situation from having unexpected consequences, not to be a magic solution that accommodate for brainless people. In one direction, you can make the judgement call and force the thing down, in the other direction you lose a finger.

gian ,

You’re missing the point of a safety feature. The car shouldn’t, by itself, close the lid if something’s in the way. It should allow the user to push it down, or disable it temporarily, to do so.

I get the safety feature. The point is that here I am saying to the car to close the lid even if something is in the way. I made a conscious decision to do so, and more than one time, so I expect the car to do it. But I agree that it could have been designed in a better way.

The point of a safety feature in any system is to prevent unexpected situation from having unexpected consequences, not to be a magic solution that accommodate for brainless people. In one direction, you can make the judgement call and force the thing down, in the other direction you lose a finger.

Which is exactly what happened here. He made the judgement call to ignore the safety feature (and probably ignored how the feature works)

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

They learnt about consent from Elon.

andros_rex ,

Probably “graduated college” the same way as Elon too

barsquid ,

It that point why not just have some blades slide out on the third try?

catloaf ,

Why bother when the door itself is an effective guillotine?

Chozo ,

He did the test wrong because he's experimenting with "safety" algorithms that the manufacturer has provided little-to-no documentation on and is having to come up with answers on his own. Maybe he wouldn't be "doing it wrong" if Tesla hadn't over-engineered every aspect of their piece of shit truck in the first place. This thing is a solution in search of a problem, and it'll chop your fingers off until it finds it.

NeoNachtwaechter ,

This thing is a solution in search of a problem

Most general question, what is the main purpose of this car? Why should people buy it?

It is a tank.

Steel walls for rich guys who want to protect their asses from masses of poor people around.

What should the door of your tank do if you want to close it, but some bonehead does not move his fingers out, repeatedly?

Now hurry, finally! This rich guy wants to get away from here! BAM!!

ozymandias117 ,

If it increases in pressure every time, I’m now curious how many times you need to close the trunk to cut a finger off

Nepenthe ,
@Nepenthe@kbin.social avatar

That was very nearly my exact same thought. Maybe not for curious children with carrot-sized fingers, but for adults, how convenient! Business competitor's body won't quite fit in your fancy frunk? Just while away on your phone for about 10 minutes, let the cat do its magic, and off go the legs! Travel-sized!

slaacaa ,

He forgot to turn on Finger Safe Mode™️ before closing the trunk

zombieshotgun ,

Well to be fair, that functionality is a pretty pricey add-on.

filister ,

But this feature requires an extra monthly subscription, that wasn’t included with the package of the YouTubers

LiveLM ,

They’re gonna add this in and call it “Jeremy mode”, just like the existing Joe Mode

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s why Apple gave up on designing a car. All of the potential customer base has already been captured by Tesla.

tedu ,

There's plenty of dumb to go around, but the word frunk by itself is the dumbest thing about this story.

EdibleFriend OP ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

I figured that was a fucking typo at first

kibiz0r ,

A frunking typo

Jerkface ,

Let me guess: Front trunk? Please tell me I’m wrong.

catloaf ,

I could, but then I’d be a liar.

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s actually short for “fore bunk” because you can sleep in there

beefbot ,

Yeah, I’d totally trust this deathtrap to let me back out in the morning 🙄 /s

SkaveRat ,

Then it will be a frasket

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

A froffin

onion ,

FRIP

barsquid ,

There’s no way I’m sleeping in an area that needs lockout/tagout to enter safely.

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

A monkey: Front trunk? That’s what I call my penis!

TheGrandNagus ,

Because it’s obviously a froot, right?

beefbot ,

So much dumb I’m inspired to re-write old song lyrics, like:

What they dunna goo with all that junk All that junk in side that FRUNK

or

My trunks / fore bunks / My stupid cyber FRUNKS

hOrni ,

So a hood. Or a bonnet.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

Don't kink shame.
There is nothing wrong with 'frunking'.
Come closer, I'll get the lube.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Feel like this could have been demonstrated with a hot dog

Fermion ,

Or a chicken drumstick for somewhat similar bone strength.

nokturne213 ,

Is this the dipstick that tried it with a carrot, it cut the tip off and then said he was going to try it with his finger to be sure?

essteeyou ,

I don’t see “dipstick” in the wild very often, but I always appreciate it. Are you English by any chance?

nokturne213 ,

I am not. I had a vulgar word there, and decided to tone it down a little.

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

A baby carrot

It takes about the same force to bite through a baby carrot as it does to bite through a finger

As long as the carrot is pretty close to the size of the finger you’re wishing to stimulate

I wish I didn’t know that

QualifiedKitten ,

I wish I didn’t read that, and then read it again repeatedly trying to process what I just read. Lol. I’m sorry.

muntedcrocodile ,

Fortunately I don’t think that’s strictly accurate. Try biting through a chicken wing its not as easy as a carrot.

RedditRefugee69 ,

Yeah and bird bones are hollow

adamkempenich ,
@adamkempenich@lemmy.world avatar

Unless you’re talking about a loon.

Skates ,

They’re talking about a chicken. Source: they wrote the word “chicken”.

variants ,

But loon is an alternative fact chicken therefore chickens have carrot bones

tryitout ,

You need calcium.

gregorum ,

This isn’t true, and I know it as a fact. I’m not gonna tell you how I know, but I know.

Biting through a human finger bone takes much more force than it does to bite through a fucking carrot.

db2 ,

Joints exist though

gregorum ,

Ever eaten oxtail? Even after it’s cooked, tendons and shit is really hard to bite through. Way harder than a damn carrot.

Anyolduser ,

For real. If fingers were that easy to lob off nobody would make it to middle age with all of their digits.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe OP has leprosy.

deepfriedchril ,

Tendon after 6 or so hours simmering or 1 hour in a pressure cooker and you got my favorite pho add in.

vanderbilt , (edited )
@vanderbilt@lemmy.world avatar

Having done my time as an Army medic, this is incorrect. It takes more force than that, but less than you might think. A good 25 kilos with some velocity behind it will easily sever a phalange. Up it to 50 or 80 kilos and you can claim an arm or shin. Mass is the real killer. I’ve seen a vehicle at comically slow speed absolutely yeet someone because it had several tons of momentum behind it.

catloaf ,

Casual readers might remember a recent very low-speed collision that nonetheless caused a catastrophic failure due to the tens of thousands of tons of weight. The MV Dali vs. the Francis Scott Key Bridge, if you didn’t guess. It struck the bridge at about 8 mph.

Nurse_Robot ,

You’re full of it. This isn’t true.

Socsa ,

Everyone who read this just tried to bite their own finger

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Just doing my part

EdibleFriend OP ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

ABCDE ,

He tested it with multiple similar objects.

LesserAbe ,

Then he wouldn’t get nearly as many views. Or have articles written about him

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Wouldn’t get so many YouTube views right…

RizzRustbolt ,

Or a penis.

takeda ,

Penis, got it!

SkaveRat ,

No, it has to be something bigger than the panel gap

CleoTheWizard ,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

He did demonstrate it that way, specifically with a carrot. And it somewhat worked. The problem is they programmed it to do more and more pressure every time it fails meaning that doing the carrot first actually caused a safety issue. He only moved onto his finger because the safety feature seemed to be working.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It’s going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

Geniuses.

toofpic ,

Because I am the bag commander. If I want the bag to fit, and it doesn’t fit, I’d better crush it!

rottingleaf ,

With that association - can Apple, Tesla etc marketing be generalized into something to be put into law?

To fucking ban those companies and make their patents public domain (or make them expire, not sure of the term).

I don’t care if a Google or two get stomped as a bonus.

downpunxx ,

pour one out for a fallen hero

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar
Nurse_Robot ,

I see your comments every time I check Lemmy, and they never cease to disgust me. Get a life dude

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

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