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LG to offer subscriptions for already purchased appliances and televisions, evolving into a provider for “Home as a Service”

LG to offer subscriptions for already purchased appliances and televisions, evolving into a provider for “Home as a Service”::Subscription fatigue is a thing and regulators are circling, but Korean giant reckons you’re ready to cough up after buying hardware

TwilightVulpine ,

*devolving

LillianVS ,
@LillianVS@lemmy.world avatar

“They’re evolving! - just backwards.” - LG probably

techtalkf ,
@techtalkf@lemmy.world avatar

My LG TV from 2017 that’s not getting any updates anymore feels great this time of the year :D

Pika ,

this change will solidify that I will never buy an LG product if they all have that shit

vinceman ,

Commenting from an LG phone (last one produced) next to an LG tv. Will never purchase another one of their products in my life, even before this article.

LaunchesKayaks ,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

I have a dumb LG TV and idek how I’ll replace it when it’s finished. Do they even sell dumb TV’s anymore?

ours ,

You have to buy a “smart tv”, never connect it to wifi and plug a proper media device to it.

LaunchesKayaks ,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

Are there really only smart tvs nowM

some_guy ,

Search for the ones that are meant for retail use. I don’t recall what they’re called, but that class of tvs will get you a decent dumb tv.

Nioxic ,

Do they even have good image quality?

rmuk ,

Digital signage? They’re basically monitors but often have a basic onboard OS like Android for running DS apps, but like you said they’re otherwise a dumb TV without the aerial port.

vinceman ,

What I’ve done.

Evil_incarnate ,

I have a dumb tv now, I plan to replace it with a computer monitor. Sound and video go through my reciever already, which sends the video to my tv. Chromecast and a rpi to do any smart things.

LiquorFan ,

I think those are called “commercial displays” now.

ChemicalSlippers ,

Don’t buy LG?

LaunchesKayaks ,
@LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t plan on it after my current TV goes. This one was given to me when my parents got a new TV.

dustedhands ,

Their gadgets built their fame because they just worked and were built like a tank. My grandparents had their stuff (from Goldstar era) and they still keep chugging.

None of this “as a service” bs will please the lifetime customers.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Just vote with your wallets people. There are others that don’t do this and nothing will turn them around after huge drop in sales. Remember when HP wanted to prevent people from recycling their toner. They had to reverse that decision. Or when Canon decided that your printer must be always online and then they had to teach people how to break their own printers. Lessons learned.

WhoRoger ,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

I can only say !fucksubscriptions

Nioxic ,

Lame. Im in a lemmy app on my phone

It considers your comment an email.

WhoRoger ,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

Get a different app I guess…

phoneymouse ,

For just a low low price of $15.99/month you can use the freezer functionality to keep things really cold! Or, you can use our free ad tier where the freezer only unlocks after you watch a 60 second ad.

irkli ,
@irkli@lemmy.world avatar

Right! If you don’t upgrade service periodically the freezer temperature goes up by one degree a month. It’s for your convenience!

XTornado ,

Nice a free simulation of the global warming.

tr35y7 ,

I dread replacing my 15 year old TV, i need dem SCARTS

rmuk ,

Oh, SCART. We hardly knew ye. Truly France’s greatest gift to the world.

doctortofu ,
@doctortofu@reddthat.com avatar

Open your fridge once per day before the door locks with our SmartHome Basic tier. You can enjoy up to five door openings per day with SmartHome Premium, or choose SmartHome Ultimate for unlimited door openings, ability to adjust the temperature AND the light turning on automatically when you open the door! Act now to get a 10% discount for the first three months!

Rozz ,

Screw you for putting that nonsense out into the world

tomkatt ,

After seeing this post and the article, I just blocked my LG C1 from WAN at my router. LAN still available for automation purposes, but fuck letting that thing out to the internet now.

randombit ,

I bought a $3k+ LG OLED. I intentionally never agreed to any TOS so that it would act as a dumb TV. I wanted it on the network so that I could control it through Home Assistant and Apple HomeKit so I put it in my IoT VLAN. Within a day it was trying to port scan my network! It is now fully isolated with no outgoing connections allowed.

Kelly ,

I have a 2017 era Samsung TV. I use it to connect to a media server that my router runs if I plug in a USB drive. This just worked so I assumed it was an open unauthenticated service.

Then I tried to use VLC running on my phone to connect and found myself presented with a login screen. When I investigated further I found the router’s media server defaulted to using the the router’s admin credentials.

So it looks like the TV had been programmed to try common default router creds before showing a login prompt to the user as a “convenience”.

magikmw ,

That’s good UX, the real fuckup is using default admin credentials om your router.

Kelly , (edited )

I wasn’t too concerned previously as my routers are only exposing their services to the local network.

I understand the view that it’s a superior UX but I was taken aback that it was guessing passwords for other devices on the network.

postmateDumbass ,

Im safe.

I changed u:admin p:admin to u:root p:service

valkyre09 ,

The “smart” LGTV experience is utter trash. I was very pissed off to see adverts on my Home Screen when I put it online. It’s since been taken off and an Apple TV now provides the streaming services.

lasagna ,
@lasagna@programming.dev avatar

Samsung isn’t any better. Bloated as hell too and I expect 0 privacy using it.

d4rknusw1ld ,

So I can’t do the wash without buying a subscription for it to play Sirius XM? Like wtf is going on. This corpo greed shit has to stop. I hope every single union walks out of the job with these actors and writers. We need to bring power back to the worker a bit.

vic_rattlehead ,

I don’t understand the mindset of people who tolerate ads. No way I’m ever hooking up a smart tv to my network!

SnepKayz ,

Most smart products are security nightmares, too. Smart TVs, refridgerators, thermometers, all of them have OS’s that arent regularly updated, dont give the user any way to peek into the system, (you get a virus on your computer, and you generally know pretty quick) and usually lack the security features that your phone or PC may have. They’re easy points for your network to be compromised.

The Internet of Things is more like the Internet of Shit.

Patrizsche ,

Is LG the same brand as the printer that stopped working without a subscription? I saw it recently on Lemmy, can’t remember if it was LG or maybe HP or something…

pepperonisalami ,

That post was HP. LG is a korean company which makes lots of home appliances like washing machines, fridges, vac cleaner, etc.

Patrizsche ,

Thanks a lot

Kiosade ,

Fucking Chaebols. They’re like a Corporate Dynasty, essentially.

Fester ,

There’s only one way I’d be OK with “subscribing” to use a LG fridge: I don’t pay anything upfront and I don’t need to pay for any repairs. If I don’t even get to own it, then I shouldn’t be responsible for fixing it when it dies and spoils all my food after a year or two, nor should I need to pay for a new fridge when I give up on it after those repairs inevitably fail again. Same with their TVs when the cheap capacitors die early.

If I subscribe to rent your product, the onus is on you to make it reliable enough that it lasts until the subscription turns a profit.

Since that won’t be their business model, I’m better off buying a half decent brand and then flushing $1000 down the toilet. Fuck LG appliances. (And fuck Samsung appliances while we’re here.)

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Very much fuck Samsung. LG actually produces a decent product, even if this subscription bullshit exists. Samsung are just planned obsolescence trashboxes.

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