Then VAC ban the steam account since you sold on steam. The game worked fine for months after launch without requiring a PlayStation account and would continue to work fine otherwise.
The most major issue is that BECAUSE they didn’t enforce a tiny part of their terms of use that is a dealbreaker for most users, those users will now be unable to refund the game due to steam’s “2 hours playtime = no refund” rule
The most major issue is that BECAUSE they didn’t enforce a tiny part of their terms of use that is a dealbreaker for most users, those users will now be unable to refund the game due to steam’s “2 hours playtime = no refund” rule
It was required from the start, why are buying something without knowing if it will even run first? Its hilarious the amount of people defending something that’s people’s own stupidity.
Quite the sad reflection of reality unfortunately.
Because if it doesn’t run, you won’t get 2 hours of playtime and steam will refund it. Stop defending corporate greed on a social media platform DESIGNED to get away from corporate greed.
I don’t have a PSN account. I was able to log in and play without using a PSN account. At no point was I told that a PSN account would be required to play. My very reasonable assumption. Is that the PSN account requirement was listed for crossplay, or managing socials with PS players. If the game had not worked from day one, or if I had been notified in the game that this was merely a temporary solution, and that I would be unable to play at all in the coming months, then I would have refunded without even trying.
So no, despite what the little label said, PSN account was not required to play the game. It worked fine without the PSN account.
In an ideal world, the requirement would be removed. Since the availability of the game has arbitrarily changed a lot in the last 2 days, Sony should at least offer full refunds and an apology to the community.
I don’t need to make an excuse. You’re making excuses, even more pathetic, you’re making excuses for a megacorp trying to datamine their customers by changing the conditions for use of the game that they already bought.
I played the game without a PSN account, along with most of the HD2 community, and I was happy with the content, which in no way relied on having a PSN account. I don’t have one. I played the game. Therefore, it was not required, regardless of what the store blurb said. I got exactly one notice to link a PSN account, which I skipped, it was a skippable thing, meaning was not required. When I skipped the PSN account, it took me straight to the game. There was no notice that it would be required to link at a later date.
If no one has told you yet, you have an amazing tongue. Your capability to lick boots and kiss ass is unparalleled. Shame that Sony won’t notice your efforts here either.
Nah brother. Because it’s in the TOS doesn’t make it OK, and in some cases, even legally enforceable.
Why are you sticking up for some arbitrary shitty corporate decision and feel the need to shift the blame to people who bought, and now supposedly OWN, the game?
I can respect it if you’re doing it for money, we all gotta eat. But if it’s for free, you’re just an ass
You’re playing on Sonys servers, they need a way to enforce a ban when you are a dick. On steam if they ban your account, you make a new one, and family share the game bypassing the ban.
This is Sonys servers, it’s their rules, no different than needing a Steam account to play Steam games. This isn’t something out of the ordinary….
I’m not sticking up for or defending anything, people are just too fucking stupid to read requirements before buying things, and now you being just as stupid defending the stupid people doing this lmfao.
It’s Sonys servers, of course it requires an account….
What? Sony can only ban a steam id, how’s Sony supposed to know you’re family sharing to another account? And you don’t need to buy a new game to family share, that’s the entire issue.
You can bypass banning without linked accounts due to steams policies, maybe if steam would issue a vac ban for a sony ban, but people would be even more up in arms about that.
Back when the new family sharing rules came out, I remember reading something about how developers could opt out of family sharing. That’s what I was referencing.
So the only way to ban dicks is for them to have a PSN account? That ain’t it my brother.
Wow… how do they ban all your other accounts unless steam vac bans you for a Sony ban? Don’t you think that would be an entire other issue…? Get your steam if banned, make a new account and family share it, bypassing Sonys ban with now way of the knowing…. Yeah that’s a fucking problem.
Sony servers, sure, just release a server binary, let others host it and offload all infrastructure costs! Massive savings!
Uhhh… you understand the concept of this game… yeah…?
Don’t suck corporate ass man, cmon.
You couldn’t be making a bigger idiot of yourself right now.
I’d be interested to know if that’s Sony or steams mistake selling them in those markets. Or isn’t that developer controlled? So maybe the devs fucked up by not restricting the sales, they said they knew about Sonys requirements.
They’re mandating you have a playstation account to play on PC. That was always in the terms, and on the steam page, but you didn’t have to. Until very recently.
And if you don’t live in one of the 65 countries where PSN operates, you can go fuck yourself, because your game just stopped working.
Can’t you just use an US account though? I don’t mean to say that this isn’t a major issue as it is, but are you really blocked from linking it? I don’t live in the US but I have a us pen account since forever
I’m aware of this, but I’ve never heard of this being enforced outside of people trying to use credit cards of other regions, and they only resulted on temporary suspensions.
My question is on the enforcement of the linking. Does it stop you from doing something like this?
Also worth point out that up until yesterday, Sony said a PSN account wasn’t it required to play games games on PC. They changed it shortly after the backlash.
Sony dropped an announcement requiring PSN accounts, even for PC players with no cross play enabled, presumably because it makes the numbers look better to their shareholders. Apparently it was supposed to be a requirement at launch but the PSN servers were busted and it was preventing people from getting in so they ‘temporarily’ disabled it.
Something not rally being mentioned is that their monetization system has gotten predictably worse, for example nerfing a weapon in advance of a premium battle pass weapon that coincidentally fills the niche that was just nerfed away.
I mean, that’s not really so bad considering you can unlock the battle passes without spending a dime past your initial investment. The timing of the nerfs might be coincidental - I do also seem to remember a Breaker - Railgun - Shield Pack monoculture being a pretty big issue.
Unlocking the battle pass with grinding takes forever. With over 40 hours I only just made enough to unlock one. Except I didn’t because I spent a little along the way on armor. Playing normally does not get warbonds at a reasonable pace.
I mean, that’s the game, isn’t it? You either grind out the super credits, and the fact that’s an option at all is the Hallmark of a good game, or you pay for instant gratification. Live service doesn’t support itself.
It was shit anyway. Never got it in the first place. If anything its just reassured me that online games cannot be trusted and will eventually bait and switch
Edit: especially if the rights are owned by a publisher
So I bought the game in PS store. Installed it and went to play just to remember I need to pay for a subscription. Uninstalled and never looked back. I dropped my subscription in December and PS won’t give me a reason too return. Maybe I can get GTA 5 for the 20th time for “free.”
no shit a bunch of my friend picked it up last month and were bugging me to buy it and join them. I get paid today and had planned on buying this weekend.
but I ain’t got a playstation or PSN account so ima hold off. im not sure all of my friends do either, for that matter. back to modded CP2077 it is!
Review bombing is getting people to review something a certain way without them having have experienced the thing.
Basically a small group think their own opinion is so important, they try to convince as many people as possible to vote the same to make it seem more people share their opinion.
These reviews were from players who actually played the game and got affected by the changes. It isn’t review bombing, their opinions are valid.
Plenty of review bombing as the method protests can be valid. It’s just a method. It so happens that many of them are stupid, but ultimately that’s just how it goes.
Not really, at least on Wikipedia the page for review bombing and the one listing significant ones make no distinction between actually having played the game/watched the movie or not.
I want both of your things to be true. What I want most is for them to remove the horrid anti-cheat AND account issues which is never going to happen, so I’ll never be able to play. But that’s okay. I bet it’s super fun, though.
I’m not sure how requiring an account in addition to the Steam account is enshittification. Especially given that it was intended to be the case from the start, but they temporarily disabled it due to technical issues.
That sounds like deliberate deception. That’s far shittier than being up front. They should have made a PS account optional. Cyberpunk does this, you don’t need an account to launch the game.
It’s completely unnecessary, PlayStation accounts aren’t available in many countries which would make the game inaccessible to people who already bought it if it’s mandatory, and Sony has averaged a data breach every two years for the past 15 years so people don’t want to give them any personal data.
man I think people can take things too far and act like drama queens sometimes but yeah, forcing another unnecessary account onto people is enshitification
Immediate uninstall; really grateful my copy was a gift so I lost nothing. I’m not setting up another fuckin account for just one fuckin game and I really fuckin wish publishers would KNOCK THAT BULLSHIT OFF
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