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Cursing is when you use edgy filler words instead of saying something meaningful.

There’re better words to use in any situation.

To make the point more clear. As much as people tend to use it in the way they do for words such as ‘like’.

I mean people will just say f you, instead of thinking of a witty insult or express an emotion with more expression.

For example, say you want to express that a person is fat, which one is a more cutting way to tell someone they’re fat:

  1. “You’re a fat-f**k.”
  2. “Don’t bother trying to stand up. I know you haven’t done that in years.”

One more thing, As much as there is a time and place you don’t curse, it’s not a matter of “appropriateness” to me; what matters more is the impact of what’s said. I hope my example showcases that.

One last thing, - cause I just starting to realise this matter more to people than I thought it would (nothing wrong with that of course) - cursing doesn’t necessarily subtract from a remark as if it’s a negative number in a math problem, it’s just redundant for speaking (more often than not).

I just realise this will work as a post in a unpopular opinion space if that exist, lol.

WeLoveCastingSpellz , (edited )

What are you? 13? Just let people use whatever words they want. You might think that there is a “better alternative for any situstion” but sometimes nothing like a good “fuck you” drives the point home. It expresses hate in such a simple way without trying to be performative or witty. Also you can say fuck, we aren’t in the middle school courtyard for god’s sake

Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

If cursing makes you feel more adult then be my guest.

To me it’s more immature to curse than to point out that cursing won’t hold the weight of a good insult.

g0nz0li0 ,
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I agree that cursing is often used as a replacement for “um”. But you ever really appreciate someone who knows how and when to curse, with intention and as an infliction? It’s a joy to behold.

Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

Maybe? I find more joy in a clever remark then a person saying the same 7 or so words in a - what seems to be random - order.

g0nz0li0 ,
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You’re talking about a different issue. It just happens to feature a lot of cursing. But cursing itself does not make a remark less clever.

Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

Maybe I miswrote it. I mean that choosing from a wheel the 1 out of 7 words to use, isn’t as clever as thinking of an insult that stings. I agree that cursing doesn’t take away, it just isn’t needed.

g0nz0li0 ,
@g0nz0li0@lemmy.world avatar

Are you saying there’s never a time where a curse word is appropriate, mr_no_swearing?

Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

I think there’re better words to use. “Appropriate” makes it sound as if I’m a nanny or something; I don’t care about appropriate, I care about if the phrase made an impact. There’s not much impact in swearing other than (maybe) showing anger.

g0nz0li0 ,
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Curse words themselves don’t reduce the impact of a sentence on their own. Context is important.

I’ll try ask this in a different way: can you think of a time when a curse word seemed to fit the context of the point being made, or enhanced the impact, or felt powerful or eloquent? Can you remember and share the context of it?

Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

I understand that using swear words don’t take away from the remark, in the same way that someone’s point isn’t discounted because they used the word “like” more than needed.

As for the second point, I cannot think of one other then maybe a movie quote since the words choosen got popular due to the context of the movie (or any media).

That to me is more of a movie good than the phrase is great, but I can be wrong about that (I’m just not sure how).

entropicdrift , (edited )
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Scientific studies have shown that curse words relieve physical pain better than any alternatives.

So there are some situations where anything else is an objectively worse option.

ETA: I’m willing to bet the reason this is being downvoted is due to the holier-than-thou attitude you’re copping, OP. It’s also something of a classist-coded cliché to claim that people who curse lack vocabulary, intelligence, education, or creativity. This is, of course counter to the fact that studies have shown that people with higher intelligence are more likely to use salty language.

Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

Then, to curse is to show that you’re a wimp.

Anti-cursing for the win, baby.

/s

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  • Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

    And this is called not understanding a joke.

    Guess it needed the /s then?

    entropicdrift ,
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    Yes, it did need the /s.

    Good on you for reflecting on your ineffective communication and correcting course.

    Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

    Would it help make it more sarcastic if I added some f**ks in the sentences, sensei.

    /s

    Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

    I guess don’t know how to break it to you that saying “f you” is not creative without being on a high horse then.

    Also, speaking of cope. To say that a person using curse words instead of a witty remark is somehow smart cause smart people use curse words doesn’t sound right but I don’t how else to interpret the ETA you made.

    eupraxia , (edited )
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    Much of the time communication isn’t about being creative or coming off smart. It’s about effectively conveying meaning with the tools you have. Sometimes that means simple, crude language is more effective at conveying something than all the wit in the world.

    So when I’m in a situation that calls for its use, I don’t care that “fuck off” is a dime-a-dozen phrase that doesn’t make sense. It’s never misunderstood, it’s cathartic to say, and I don’t need to think on the spot to figure out something more eloquent - my mind is on, y’know, who or what needs to fuck off instead.

    Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

    Ok, I understand what you’re saying, saying “f you” is faster & easier.

    2 (now 3) points I want to make:

    1. I getting this sense that instead of speaking to someone, it’s to let off steam. As you put it, “it’s cathartic to say.” I find that telling of a weak character to need to blow off steam because of a conversation they’re having.
    2. Since cursing usally indicates aggression, I can’t help but think if you are short on time then making people feel aggression is not the smart thing to-do.
    3. Cursing is just as impercise as using wit. I don’t know it helps other than maybe show rage in a spit-second responce, but people have said “f you” in different kinds of context for different kinds of affects. At that point intead of “f you”, you can say “leave if you going to say such trash.” You could be more direct than using some vague swear word.
    entropicdrift , (edited )
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    I guess don’t know how to break it to you that saying “f you” is not creative without being on a high horse then.

    I give you a decent counterargument with some bonus alliteration and all you can muster is a strawman?

    Also, speaking of cope. To say that a person using curse words instead of a witty remark is somehow smart cause smart people use curse words doesn’t sound right but I don’t how else to interpret the ETA you made.

    You’ve reversed cause and effect here. I didn’t say that all people who curse are smart. I said smart people curse.

    You’ve argued from a cliché and from a strawman misrepresentation of my original point. I hope someday you look back and cringe at your small-minded pretentiousness in this thread.

    Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

    For the 1st point, all I read is that smart people curse, & I’m on a high-horse for pointing out cursing isn’t that creative.

    You don’t seem to refute that cursing isn’t super creative, so I fail to see the counter argument here.

    And if you going to say that I’m condescending for what was stated, then guilty as charge, I guess.

    For the sencond point, read again what you wrote me. I see “smart people are more likely to use curse words.”

    That doesn’t state when nor to what degree do they curse.

    Also my point is that there’s better words to use then swear words, I fail to see how it’s suppose to matter that smart people use swear words.

    Again I ask, does it make the swear word more intellient because someone smart says it as oppose to a witty remark?

    The best speakers tend to not use them if we’re going to bring who says what in this.

    3rd point, clichés exist for a reason. I hope that after you let out the steam (probably by cursing), you can see how - even in your rage - you thought of insults instead of cursing. Would hate to think it would show you as lacking brain power than the smart people cursing away somewhere.

    RAM ,

    aside from your opinions on cursing, mocking people for being fat is not cool.

    just like people are born with different hair color, people’s bodies look different. You can’t tell based on somebody’s body type whether they’re living as healthy as they can.

    Some people could have illnesses that make them fatter. Some people are just fat and healthy. In all cases, you should not mock people for being fat.

    Aremel ,

    I agree to an extent. If overused, cursing can be “edgy” and offputting. However, sometimes you just need to emphasize the emotion of a given statement that mere “polite” words cannot express.

    Quite frankly, I do not trust people that do not curse. I feel that they are not emotionally genuine. Conversely, I feel that people that curse too much are emotionally immature and do not know how to express themselves properly. Cursing is an art. It’s a linguistic balancing act where one must take the audience and message into consideration.

    Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

    I disagree with “polite” words having no emotion. Tell me you don’t get anything from this sentence “Go to hell, you subhuman pest.”

    I think the tone & emphasis matters more than selecting some curse word. When I wrote the sentence, I was thinking the “subhuman pest” part was biting since it would be said in a sharp snapping tone & conveys more info than a swear word.

    Aremel ,

    It’s entirely possible to get your feelings across without ever using curse words. I commend people for having the emotional maturity and the vocabulary to do so. However, I feel it is emotionally disingenuous to censor yourself with “polite” versions of curse words, for example saying “shoot” instead of “shit” or “fudge” instead of “fuck”.

    I can understand if your surroundings aren’t conducive to curses, like being around children or in polite company such as a work or religious environment, but if you’re in a position where it is socially acceptable to curse but instead choose to censor yourself, I find you to be emotionally disingenuous or at least emotionally immature. If you choose to never ever curse, that’s cool too. Again, I think it’s commendable to never have to resort to curses. But if you have to use a curse word to get your point across, just use it if the environment is appropriate. Doubly so if it’s in a written medium.

    I know what you’re trying to say when you type “f**k”. You’ve done nothing but demonstrate to me that you would like to seem “proper” while still resorting to using offensive language. Emotionally disingenuous, or at best emotionally immature. If you feel like you must censor yourself, then just don’t curse at all.

    Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

    I get what you mean, however that last paragraph seems to be mistaking something.

    I was showing how saying “fat-f**k” is shallow than the more biting “don’t get up, I know you haven’t done it in years.” It’s meant as a comparison.

    I’m just a tiny-bit tired so maybe I need to rephrase it again, but I hope I made my point.

    theywilleatthestars ,

    What meaningful things are you saying instead of cursing?

    Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

    Depends on the situation.

    Edit:

    3144

    To replace one word for another would be the same as saying the f word is now written & pronounce as “zulk”.

    NegativeLookBehind ,
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    Cursing is an art, and adds color to otherwise bland sentences and communication. Curse words emphasize tone, inflection, emotion.

    If you’re not very good at cursing, maybe you should fuckin’ practice more.

    Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

    In what way does it add emotion? I’ve heard people say “f you” to mean all different kinds of emotions. I find it hard to believe that saying “I’m f-ing sad” is more emotional than taking time to think it though and get something such as this “I think losing a family member would hurt less than what I’m feeling right now.”

    ValiantDust , (edited )
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    “I haven’t eaten in 4 hours and 41 minutes and now long for a sandwich with cheese, tomatoes and lettuce” also gets more info across than saying “I’m hungry”, yet people keep using the latter.

    Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

    Yea, because it’s easy; just as saying f you is a brainless task, lacking any depth.

    wesker ,
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    For crying in the sink.

    Jimmyeatsausage ,

    Shut the front door!

    nokturne213 ,

    Cheez whiz and rice

    phanto ,

    Ugh. There’s a book about how to be a better boss, and one of the things it says is that adding a mild curse to otherwise normal speech will convince people you are being sincere. My boss read it.

    “Well, this damn job isn’t going to build itself!”

    “Aw shit! Lunch is over! Back to work!”

    It was so awful.

    Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

    You’ve my sencerest condolences.

    That sounds as if a punch-line that an alien trying to learn how to be human would have in a comedy.

    MeDuViNoX ,
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    Asclepiaz ,

    Fuck u no

    Iheartcheese ,
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    Fuck.

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