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UnderpantsWeevil ,
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I find it amusing that we can prove the existence of black holes thousands of light years away and glean the state of the universe at its earliest moments, but we can’t decide whether there’s a rock big enough to count as a planet floating around the inside rim of the Oort Cloud.

Audacious ,

It might be a miscalculation of orbital body models, which has happened before. Urbain Le Verrier was able to predict Neptune’s existence. Then he tried to predict a planet between Mercury and the Sun, because the current Newtonian physics wasn’t lining up to observations, a similar situation to how Neptune was found. Then Einstein’s work on gravity modeled the orbital bodies more accurately, ending the debate if there was another planet closer to the sun than Mercury. Just a different food-for-thought point of view, as I don’t know what the answer is obviously.

TheControlled ,

Back in my day it was called Planet X, god dammit!

JamesTBagg ,

Because back in my (our) day Pluto was number, so Planet X worked. Planet VIIII doesn’t look as good.

5wim ,

Uh, you mean “IX”?

Klear ,

That means “Boy who is not able to satisfactorily explain what a Hrung is, nor why it should choose to collapse on Betelgeuse Seven”. I don’t see how that applies here.

5wim ,

Fair

FordBeeblebrox ,

Still trying to figure out what the hell it is

Gabu ,

VIIII is a valid way to write 9, though antiquated. If you look at very old clocks, you’ll see they all use this notation.

5wim ,

Didn’t realize homie was an antiquated clock. (Assumed the usage of Roman numerals, like in the references being made, in which case I don’t believe the clumsy VIIII only used on old clocks would really be valid.)

Gabu ,

VIIII wasn’t exclusive to clocks, that’s the only long-lasting example we still have access to.

5wim ,

Your point is that VIIII was ever used in history? Happily conceded.

TheControlled ,

This made me really laugh. Thought I would let you know 😂

Opisek ,

The reason clocks use it, is to not make it look visually unbalanced. Most often they write 4 as IIII. I find it infuriating to break such a simple rule though.

But also, I’ve never ever seen VIIII.

Gabu ,

Julius Caesar’s memoir of war in Gaul makes use of VIIII, for instance. You’re right that it’s much rarer, but was still used contemporarily and in modern times.

JamesTBagg ,

Yeah yeah. Same same.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, Ix, let’s start naming these planets like its classic SciFi.

TheControlled ,

I know. I wasn’t being serious.

Syn_Attck ,

Nibiru. Not Pluto.

FenrirIII ,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

I remember that from my childhood! My mother convinced me it was probably a bad science fiction movie

some_guy ,

Science and history are fun because we keep adding new information and proving / disproving theories.

dezmd ,
@dezmd@lemmy.world avatar

Poor Ceres.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_(dwarf_planet)

elbarto777 ,

These comments.

BossDj , (edited )

The team acknowledges that other forces could be at play that might explain the behavior that they simulated but suggest they are less likely.

Space Whales

errer ,

This same group has been pushing this theory for a decade with no direct evidence. Each paper is just confirmation bias in action.

just_another_person OP ,

Some amateur types have been pushing this for decades with zero evidence, but as the article says, a legit pair from Caltech finally found some circumstancial evidence it could be possible, and this expanded group is just throwing more on the pile. I think it’s just one of those “Well…let’s say it’s possible, here’s what we’d be looking at for evidence…” kind of deals.

subignition ,
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A new planet in a distant orbit, you say?
In before the signal is older than the universe itself.

Charred ,

The downvotes are not getting the reference smh.

Science compels us to blow up the sun!

just_another_person OP ,

I do not get the reference, but I can tell it IS a reference, so throwing an upvote on it lol

subignition ,
@subignition@kbin.social avatar

You should forget anything you've read in this thread and play Outer Wilds ASAP. And you should go into it as blind as possible. Trust me; you only get to experience it for the first time once.

Skua ,

Invite me to the jam, I swear I can whistle well

mriormro ,
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youtu.be/J9FImc2LOr8?si=cHDXjN1AJgp0g2YM

kbin_space_program ,

We can call the new planet Cerberus. On honor of Pluto.

massive_bereavement ,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

Wouldn't we then confuse it with Pluto's moon? Imagine a family of poor future Solar system travellers realizing they got the tickets for the moon, not the planet.

Frozengyro ,

Isn’t Pluto’s moon Charon?

9bananas ,

pluto has more than one moon ;)

kbin_space_program ,

Yeah but this aren't planets. We could always just reuse the name Pluto. Then all the old books are right again.

accideath ,

That’s Pluto erasure. Pluto isn’t a planet but it’s damn well part of our solar system.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Kerberos and Cerberus while referencing the same thing are spelled differently.

Kolanaki ,
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By all rights it should be planet 10. Pluto got shafted.

KISSmyOSFeddit ,

If Pluto (and others like it) were a planet, then it would be Planet 238 or something.

Tarquinn2049 ,

Unfortunately, Pluto was a victim of how hard it is/was for us to detect planets and other objects at that distance. It was the first one we saw for a while, but once we got a clearer picture, there was no way we could keep calling it a planet.

sorghum , (edited )
@sorghum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nah, it’s easy.

Pluto is a planet.

See? Not that hard.

Edit: My bad, I thought I was in !science_memes

accideath ,

But then why isn‘t Ceres also a Planet? Or Eris? Or Quaoar? Or any of the other objects classified as dwarf planets

The answer is easy: Besides their size, they all behave very differently from the actual Planets. Doesn’t mean they’re any less important, they’re just something slightly different.

Gabu ,

Is Luna, our moon, a planet?

ceiphas ,

Just call it Rupert already!

Hupf ,

George

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