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Dasnap , (edited )
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t even know VS Code was something you could pay for.

Also, are you using Discord bots for work?

Edit: Nope and nope.

einkorn ,
@einkorn@feddit.org avatar

As is tradition with MS and their complicated naming policies Visual Studio is not VS Code.

30p87 ,
@30p87@feddit.org avatar

Also, VS Code is mid, not even working correctly and definitely not OOB on Linux in my experience, and VS just does not support Linux at all. And is shit anyway.

rtxn , (edited )

VS’s built-in .NET debugger is top tier, though. Especially the ability to edit code while it is running.

qaz , (edited )

Rider can do code replacement too and has worked much better in my experience

kamenlady , (edited )
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

I can only recommend ZED

EDIT: no love for ZED?

ekky , (edited )

Hmmm, the front page looks like they’re trying to sell a LLM code generator with additional QOL to businesses, and not a developer focused IDE or extensible text editor.

Definitely not something that catches my interest as a developer. Though, I haven’t tried it, so these are just initial impressions from reading their landing page.

Edit: also, why down vote the above? It appears perfectly relevant to the discussion. If you disagree, why not make a comment about it instead?

kamenlady ,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

It’s really good and open source. I used sublime & atom before and it’s pretty much the same experience.

Is it also because it’s made for mac first?

ekky , (edited )

Hadn’t actually noticed it was Mac first before you mentioned it, but no, if it works for Mac, then it likely also works for Linux (and that’s what counts, right?).

Contrary to my previous statement, I’ve actually tried downloading Zed. The first thing I noticed was the “sign in” in the top right corner. Feels rather unsightly, but no biggie. It appears to redirect to GitHub authorization, after which it fails with a “OAuthCallback”-error. Might be my fault, can’t remember if I’ve disabled or limited unnecessary functionality in GitHub.

The design feels slick and most options are hidden away or represented by only a small icon with tooltips. It appears that no advanced settings page exists, as nearly everything is handled in JSON (initially thought that a visual settings page must have been hidden away deep down somewhere, but that appears to be wrong).

Coop programming seems to be a big feature, but I’ll skip that as it appears to need setup.

Also, the LLM part is not nearly as prominent as their front page makes it out to be, rather feels like an option than a prominent or forced feature, so that’s really nice.

The included extensions (nice to have them as they’re no given) appear to focus on themes and syntax, can’t find any cross-development nor compilation related extensions which is just fine. Compilation is best handled in the terminal anyway.

Overall it feels pretty solid, definitely different from the first impressions of their page. Might be even better with more diverse extensions, though, I haven’t looked at the internet for unlisted extensions, and I’m not sure how old the project is (the extensions might just not be made yet).

There’s also no pop-ups, start pages with all kinds of featured content, nor settings or buttons that grab your attention away from your work (except the login button, perhaps. I would like to see what it looks like once logged in).

I’m probably missing most features as my GitHub integration fails, but I’m overall positively surprised.

kamenlady ,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

It has an integrated Terminal, which works good - made my work with sass on the server a little easier.

Glad you’re linking it. It never stopped to surprise me with it’s simplicity and absence of forced features.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3321700b-dae3-421c-b717-9a3746dd6d6c.png

qaz , (edited )

I still wonder why they decided to write their own UI framework from scratch.

TheBananaKing ,

If you want twenty minutes of rage-filled ranting, ask me about vscode-server sometime.

Aceticon ,

How much would that be in Libraries Of Congress if written down?

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

No and no and no. Works fine even on arm64 Linux. And is not shit in the least.

Darohan , (edited )

Visual Studio and VS Code are two separate products, I’m afraid. Visual Studio is a .NET IDE and build tool, as opposed to VS Code which is essentially an extensible text editor.

Edit: also the screenshot looks like it might be from Slack?

magic_lobster_party ,

The great thing about Slack is how easy it is to make automations. I guess this one just reads RSS feeds.

At my work we have automations notifying us about production errors for example.

RonSijm OP , (edited )
@RonSijm@programming.dev avatar

That’s not a Discord bot, it’s a Slack RSS App / RSS subscription.

Event Source: status.dev.azure.com/_event/543117809

It’s pretty useful ‘for work’ because occasionally you’ll get notifications when parts of infra might be down (like your build server)

bappity ,
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t get the appeal of azure because of things like this.

annoying how much they try to push it

haui_lemmy ,

Walled garden or die

Thats how i read azure

slazer2au ,

Moving to the cloud is a business decision not a technical one.

Csuite sees us spending Capex 200K on a server or 2 and several thousand opex per year to maintain it.

Cloud takes that 200K Capex and move it to Opex with significant markup markup.

From a technical pov we st it as a waste but business will business itself into cost overruns

DudeDudenson , (edited )

But they promised we could save a ton of money with their monitoring dashboards we won’t look at until suddenly we get a bill that is 5x what they promised!

JerkyChew ,

Lifting and shifting an existing monolithic architecture to the cloud with zero modernization changes will result in a higher cost than leaving it in a data center.

Converting the application to use as much serverless and microservice-based technology as possible is where the cloud ROI is.

KingGordon ,

Azure is absolute trash. Its like Word but for the cloud.

JetpackJackson , (edited )

I mean, they do have word for the cloud now… But I get what you’re saying

qaz , (edited )

The company I work for loves Azure. If it’s not available as an Azure service it won’t be used (except for uptime kuma). Some time ago there was a global Azure outage and we could do literally nothing. All tasks and code were on Azure Devops and all communication went through Teams and Outlook.

The webhook integration has also recently been removed from Teams so uptime kuma also didn’t work for like a week until it was fixed by using Azure’s automation service.

Odinkirk ,
@Odinkirk@lemmygrad.ml avatar

If it’s not available as an Azure service it won’t be used (except for uptime kuma).

What Clive Barker movie do you live in?

tiny ,

If you look at it as generic could provider it’s not good, but if you look at it as making m$ run they’re software instead of you it’s awesome because most m$ software is not fun to run

CaptPretentious ,

I personally prefer Azure over AWS.

zante ,

Like ransom ware

IsThisAnAI ,

Oh God I HAVE TO PAY? LITERALLY SLAVERY

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

👢👅👅👅

IsThisAnAI ,

SLAVERY!!! 🙄

Twat

palordrolap ,

How about, I don't know, not yanking the cord (or setting things up so the cord is yanked automatically) and pursuing the payment later?

But then that could mean that someone might - even temporarily - get something for nothing, and they can't be seen to promote anything even remotely similar to that.

Perhaps this tiny company are so close to the knife edge that they can't afford to allow it to happen. Must have constant revenue stream or else close up sho... wait, Micro-who?

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

Imagine paying money for software designed to sabotage your business if you miss a license payment.

IsThisAnAI ,

Oh you mean like every commercial FoSS OS which will force you to wait or not receive certain security updates unless you are on a subscription?

Micromot ,

What are you talking about?

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Uh… what do you think we do when a client doesn’t pay us for a while? We yank their access. That’s how services work, you get a few warnings that you really need to pay or you’ll lose access and then, well, you lose access.

riodoro1 ,

Imagine your compiler performing a license check.

refalo ,

pretty sure it’s been a thing since even before free compilers

FrostyCaveman ,

Absolutely proprietary

IsThisAnAI ,

It’s like none of you have experienced an outage before

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Something something Eggs, something something baskets…

nightwatch_admin ,

I am not sure if Martin would appreciate his name this clear on the lemmyverse.

friend_of_satan ,

I can’t believe it’s real. 🤦‍♂️

status.dev.azure.com/_event/543117809

Jocker ,

Microsoft Hosted Agents have an expired Visual Studio license.

Is it like, Microsoft has to renew licence with Microsoft?

Or are they pushing for an upgrade?

AreaKode ,

As a sysadmin, fuck certificates. They are the bane of my existence. I vote we abolish certs and go Irish honor system!

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

I’m not familiar with the service, can someone explain? Like, are all pipelines on Azure affected? Or is it some internal stuff where a company relying on paid tech forgot to pay for it?

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