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BolexForSoup , (edited ) in It's that time of the year again!
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

He sees you when you’re bashing

He’s hacked your VPN

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

He knows you’re not in the sudoers file

So he’ll report your ass again

Masimatutu ,
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jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ll be damned if that’s not the most relevant xkcd that I’ve ever seen.

GBU_28 , in It's that time of the year again!

No closing semicolon, anyone got any extras to throw on this thing?

epyon22 ,

; found this in the back for you should still work though

db2 ,

Can confirm.

Moops , (edited )

At the very least I’d try to clean up that fuzzy condition on behavior to anticipate any bad or inconsistent data entry.

WHERE UPPER(TRIM(behavior)) = ‘NICE’

Depending on the possible values in behavior, adding a wildcard or two might be useful but would need to know more about that field to be certain. Personally I’d rather see if there was a methodology using code values or existing indicators instead of a string, but that’s often just wishful thinking.

Edit: Also, why dafuq we doing a select all? What is this, intro to compsci? List out the values you need, ya heathen ;)

(This is my favorite Xmas meme lol)

mp04610 ,

behavior is an ENUM.

moroni ,
@moroni@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s a table scan, right there. Naughty.

krotti ,

Honest question, which ones wouldn’t it work with? Most add a semicolon to the end automatically or have libraries and interfaces saved me a million times?

jaybone ,

Usually with libraries like jdbc or whatever and prepared statements you don’t need the semicolon.

GBU_28 ,

Other reply s accurate but it’s always a good practice to include the semicolon else you can get

“Bobby tables’ed” look that xkcd comic up

krotti ,

Wouldn’t that still apply, if you can inject straight SQL, such as “query’ OR 1=1?”

docAvid ,

I’m not sure how including a final semicolon can protect against an injection attack. In fact, the “Bobby Tables” attack specifically adds in a semicolon, to be able to start a new command. If inputs are sanitized, or much better, passed as parameters rather than string concatenated, you should be fine - nothing can be injected, regardless of the semicolon. If you concatenate untrusted strings straight into your query, an injection can be crafted to take advantage, with or without a semicolon.

GBU_28 ,

Yep it would only work if you didn’t sanitize a user input string in this case ‘nice’

They could write ‘’; drop table blah;

pruwybn , (edited )
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Need to normalize the database. I would add a join to a BehaviorTypes table.

Edit: or, if the only options are naughty or nice, make it a boolean.

takeda ,

You need semicolons if it is a script with multiple commands to separate them. It is not needed for a single statement, like you would use in most language libraries.

mellejwz ,

If you don’t use a semicolon directly in MySQL it won’t do anything until you add it.

takeda ,

In the MySQL client console where you can run multiple commands.

If you add semicolon in language library commands such as fetch() you will get an error.

fmstrat ,

Can we get a SIMILARITY?

guy , in It's that time of the year again!
@guy@lemmy.world avatar

Guess that settles the debate, we got to pronounce it “sequel” then to optimally match syllables

db2 ,

Squirrel works too though.

Doug ,

Yes but he serves a different community

jadero ,
squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

The Australian pronunciation works… “squi-rell”. Common American one is somehow just one syllable, “Skwurl”

jaybone ,

How do you pronounce Smurf?

squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

I'm not Australian.

_danny ,

The only people I know who actually call it ess queue ell are either too new to know the “sequel” pronunciation, or the type of person you generally smell before you see.

relevants ,

Here in Germany everyone I know pronounces the letters individually – as German letters that is, which means the Q is pronounced “coo” rather than “cue”. I don’t mind it, it’s not quite as clunky as in English.

I do say sequel when speaking English though.

mctoasterson ,

Do you get irritated when Americans refer to the famous Austrian bullpup rifle as the Steyr “Ogg”?

SpeakinTelnet ,

I say ess cue ell for the sake of uniformity because it’s not Mysequel nor Postgresequel and the language changed from Sequel to the acronym SQL in the 70s so not really in the “too new” ballpark anymore.

_danny ,

I think those make sense as deviations. I’ve heard “my sequel” but you’re absolutely right about postgresql.

The name is kinda irrelevant like hard vs soft g in gif. People know what you mean when you say either.

But in that same vein, the creator of the “graphics interchange format” says the pronunciation is soft g, but basically everyone says hard g… So “official” pronunciation is kinda irrelevant.

I don’t judge anyone who uses whichever term they want, but I’ve just noticed the general trend in my smallish interaction bubble.

hakunawazo , (edited )

Don’t start the gif war again.

cm0002 ,

I’m neither, I refuse to pronounce acronyms if it doesn’t make sense to do so.

Same thing with ‘gooey’ for GUI, except I hate that even more because that straight up elicits feelings of disgust, I don’t want anything gooey anywhere near any electronics

_danny ,

I’ve literally never heard GUI said as “gee ewe eye” before.

You could just say UI, avoids the gooey phobia and sounds less weird than g u i.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess ,
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

Uuugghhh noooo! Ess Kyoo Ell!! ESS KYOO ELL!!! brandishes flaming pitchfork!

threelonmusketeers ,
pythonoob ,

Sequel to what?

SHBI7368 , in It's that time of the year again!

Love it keep em coming

cobra89 , in what's the difference?

Git = bittorrent

GitHub = the pirate bay

Code = content

Even that’s not the perfect analogy but it’s better than the OP.

vinhill ,

Though OPs example is easier for the general population to understand.

CmdrKeen ,
@CmdrKeen@lemmy.today avatar

Yes, but mostly because the general population likely isn’t super familiar with Bittorrent and PirateBay.

A better, yet similarly correct explanation would be to say GitHub is to Git what GMail is to email.

This also doesn’t confuse protocol and content, and it doesn’t require knowledge of piracy.

mindbleach , in Need a rust version too.

You have Perl.

%_=~aj/dy/hfiw8i/g;
$_/a(h0w8)y@;
FWA/E.*FW[tu29uy]/;
%(1)hjc/f4ifh38/y;

The princess is saved, but all you can think about is rescuing another, with an entirely different plan. Which is just as well because you have no fucking idea how to explain the one you just wrote and executed.

merc , in what's the difference?

A key difference:

If you rely too much on PornHub, you’re never going to get fucked.

If you rely too much on GitHub, you’re eventually going to get fucked.

WindowsEnjoyer , in what's the difference?

In Lemmy people are not aware that GitHub is not just git server with lots of code. :)

spudwart , in what's the difference?

Grub and GrubHub

nxdefiant , (edited )

Using food as the analogy:

Food…Code

Kitchen…Dev Environment (IDE, PC, etc)

Serving…Deploying

ok good so far

When I’m done with code I’m not going to deploy yet I commit and store it on a branch in git.

When I’m done making food that I’m not going to serve yet, I store it in a fridge or pantry.

When I need external code, I grab it from GitHub. When I need ingredients, I grab them from the grocery store.

So I think Food Storage, is the closest analog to git. I have local storage (pantry, fridge) that I can use to store food I have acquired.

Which would mean the grocery store is the closest analogy, but not a restaurant. Or maybe a grocery store with a restaurant.

fruitycoder , in Need a rust version too.

You have rust, you decide to rewrite the C plan but the only library that supports it uses unsafe code so you go back and rewrite it. Wait what were you working on?

agent_flounder , (edited ) in what's the difference?
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

That…isn’t quite right.

Git is a distributed version control system for software development^1.

Version control allows you to manage code versions and changes to code. You take snapshots, so to speak, of every change you make.

Distributed, in this context, means multiple developers can write code on each of their development computers and merge the changes, usually to a centralized git server.

GitHub runs a web-based git server at GitHub.com so teams can store their code in a central location on the internet.

  1. Ok, technically, even though It’s often used for software source code, it can be used for any set of files and directories.
kernelle ,

If you read it as “a website providing a service, but that service is also available elsewhere” the analogy makes perfect sense.

kevincox ,
@kevincox@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t see anything you said that it isn’t quite right.

Porn is a distributed form of entertainment.

Porn allows you to get your rocks off. You take views, so to speak and do your thing.

Distributed, in this context, means multiple enjoyers can watch porn on each of their entertainment computers and share the videos, usually to a centralized porn server.

PornHub runs a web-based porn server at pornhub.com so viewers can store their porn in a central location on the internet.

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

So in the analogy porn corresponds to git? Or to source code?

spiderplant ,

In this analogy it could be that:

  • the filesystem is git and the porn is source code
  • the file is git and the data is source code
  • you don’t consider the source code because you can host anything on github
  • we shouldn’t be reading into the analogy this deeply because its a silly analogy meant for absolute beginners
Rodeo ,

Ok, now explain the part you think is not right.

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Git is a tool. GitHub is one implementation of a git server. Git is used to manage source code. GitHub hosts / manages source code.

Porn is content. Pornhub is one service that hosts content. Porn is not a tool. Git isn’t content. Source code is content.

So porn isn’t really analogous to git.

Maybe a better analogy would be… Git is to GitHub as outlook mail client is to outlook server–or Gmail app to Gmail server.

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

GitHub runs a web-based git server at GitHub.org so teams can store their code in a central location on the internet.

Wait… it’s GitHub.org?

I always assumed it was GitHub.com…

Edit: GitHub.org only seems to support HTTP and then it just does a permanent redirect to GitHub.com

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Ugh I’m an idiot. Thanks.

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

All good 😊 you had me going for a minute though

purelynonfunctional , (edited ) in what's the difference?

It’s not, though. Git is a means of distributing content, not the content itself. The thing analogous to PornHub’s porn on GitHub is the source code in the repos hosted there, not Git itself.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

If only there was a website called “StreamHub” or something.

Honestly the content vs. characteristic method of delivery distinction is subtle enough this is still a great way of explaining.

purelynonfunctional ,

Depends on to whom. If you’re explaining to your grandma, a small child, a co-worker, or a student under your tutelage, you probably don’t want an explanation that relies on reference to a porn site.

And if you’re explaining to a novice developer or to an IT person who sometimes might have to work with Git, they deserve an explanation that leaves them with a basic understanding (or at least the names) of the kinds of things Git and GitHub are (VCSes and SCM forges, respectively), not just an inkling that GitHub is not unique in being ‘a place to host (some?) Git, whatever that is’.

So… if you don’t mind that it suggests ‘GitHub is for uploading Git(s)’, that line is an okay way to teach ‘the difference between Git and GitHub’ to non-technical, non-elderly adults who don’t really need to know what Git is (and don’t work with you or study under you).

That’s an explanation of pretty damn narrow usefulness, to put it generously.

It is pithy and memorable, though.

CanadaPlus ,

How often does grandpa ask you what GitHub is?

emptiestplace ,

You’re right, we probably should’ve noticed sooner.

spiderplant ,

I agree that porn is a nsfw way to explain something in a lot of scenarios but I disagree about people needing to know at least the names of a technology from an explanation.

Most people don’t need to know or care about the names to understand or use them. Knowing the names after I learnt the commands did not give me greater insight into how the tool works.

If they are just being introduced to git and github then they are likely new to programming and have much more important things to care about like learning their first programming language or understanding how their teams project actually works.

A place to host gits is a perfectly good explanation for anyone who is new to it.

merc ,

Git is a DVCS. GitHub is a place where DVCS repositories are hosted. There are many other places where DVCS repositories can be hosted, but GitHub is the most famous one… Porn is a type of content. PornHub is a place where porn is hosted. There are many other places where porn can be hosted, but PornHub is the most famous one. It’s a pretty good analogy.

dan ,
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There are many other places where DVCS repositories can be hosted

I mean… Everyone that’s cloned the repo has a full copy of it. You could clone it directly off someone else if you wanted to.

merc ,

Sure… and you could pass around porn on thumb drives. But, having a central website where you can browse public repos and clone the interesting ones is a pretty key part of Open Source / Free Software development.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

How many people use Github for discovery though? I usually find interesting projects through a search engine, through word of mouth, through posts on here, etc. at which point it doesn’t really matter where the repo is hosted. A lot of the useful projects I use aren’t even on Github.

As far as I know, Gitea is current working on federation support, which will be great. It’d be like Lemmy where you can browse repos, submit issues, etc from one instance even if the repo is hosted at a different one. Git was really designed for a model like that, not for a centralized one.

spiderplant ,

How many people use Pornhub for discovery though? I usually find interesting content through a search engine, through word of mouth, through posts on here, etc. at which point it doesn’t really matter where the porn is hosted. A lot of the useful content I use aren’t even on Pornhub.

Seriously though, I agree with you, githubs value to open source is not it’s discover-ability. Personally I think its value comes from the stability, as much as I’m an advocate for self-hosting I know from the amount of dead links on the internet that we could have lost a lot of projects or at least they would move about as hosts went down.

I quite like the idea of federated gitea, although technically there is already a federated platform for porn if you count Lemmy and/or mastadon.

docAvid ,

But it’s a categorical error. The analogy is about “git”, not “git repositories” or “DVCS repositories”.

merc ,

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4onen , in what's the difference?

Git is a program your computer runs to have a single folder have source control. It does all the hashing and commit chaining that you’re used to, branches, that sort of thing.

But if you want it to be on more than one computer, you need to do this complicated “Bare” repository setup on a server computer to do the “git push” stuff you’re used to.

Most people, being too lazy to learn bare repositories and the general sysadmin necessary to host a git server themselves, instead just use Microsoft’s Github which is a web interface for the server use of git the program.

Microsoft then proceeded with their classic mantra of “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish” and started slapping on more and more features that are incompatible with any other git hosting service: actions, CI, their web VSCode instances, etc. That’s all in GitHub too. But it’s all just web interface for git the open source program, at the end of the day.

rtxn ,

GitHub was independent from Microsoft for a long time, and was only acquired in 2018.

xmunk ,

I like shitting on M$FT as much as the next bloke but if you believe Github started being evil when Microsoft entered the picture then your memory is pretty awful.

From it’s inception github pushed proprietary tagging and issue numbers that have no meaning outside their platform and a difficult export process to trap projects - especially commercial ones - on their platform.

4onen ,

I was being diplomatic because I was uncertain how people felt about the issue and PR tracking, considering how Bitbucket and GitLab replicate it. Felt simpler to focus on the since-M$ft egregious steps.

Phen ,

I remember moving a project from github to gitlab years ago (before MS) and the process to move all the non-git data from github was just as easy as moving the git repo itself. Thanks to gitlab’s efforts perhaps, but I didn’t expect github to have made it difficult for them based on the experience I ended up having.

Archr ,

Just a few comments on this. Most people aren’t “lazy”, they just understand that the effort to run a bare repository is greater than basically any other solution. Also your incompatible features list implies that other git repo sites (gitlab, codecommit, bitbucket, etc) don’t have their own form of proprietary stuff that you have to learn. In fact the newest version of gitlab actually changes their web ide into vscode web, because of the obvious, it is much better than their old ide.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E , (edited ) in Need a rust version too.

So let me summarise this:

Only C and Lisp actually completed the initial task of getting the princess free, and Author clearly favors C over the drooling and homeless lisp hacker. Also, turns out, C greatest weakness helped to save not only the princess but everything she ever possessed! How convenient!

Shareni ,

Naah, C stabbed himself in both of his feet while planning. The rest of it is his dying mind hallucinating saving the princess.

Lisp is the true hero, but the author has parenthophobia

Aceticon , in Need a rust version too.

You use Assembly.

You describe each and every leg movement and each and every step to the castle and over the castle bridge and inside the castle.

You somehow end up in the castle kitchen.

sunbeam60 ,

Or more precisely. You end up in a dark room. You’re not sure it’s in the castle.

nilloc ,

And the only way back is by counting every step you took on the way in, and if you miss one, the castle buries you.

mindbleach ,

But if you’re right, you have the princess and return home before the guards are done drawing their swords.

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