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amphetaminisiert , in I still don't get buffers

And I still don’t really know how to use registers in vim 😂 I just use yy and paste 🥲

barsquid ,

I only know how to use them with q. I hope that’s a register, otherwise I will look foolish.

suy ,

They are. Registers are just “named boxes” where you can store some text and/or keystrokes. When yanking and pasting, the unnamed register is used if you don’t specify a name (you can still see or edit it explicitly). For recording a macro there is no default register, though. You need to give it a name.

Psaldorn ,
@Psaldorn@lemmy.world avatar

You just do " (listen for next character as register name)

Then, say q,w,e etc, then yy to yank as normal.

So "wyy

To retrieve it you use "wp

To add to it "Wyy

To view them :reg

Remember you can make "w anything, like "x or "p

And each time you yank it gets pushed into the default register history "0 "1 "2 etc

emergencybird ,

I didn’t know about registers, thank you for this!

o_d ,
@o_d@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Great explanation. Thank you!

amphetaminisiert ,

Ok I have to save that 🥲 thanks!

cybersandwich , in I still don't get buffers

I can’t tell if ops joke is “intentionally confusing buffers with registers” and everyone is playing along or if people aren’t making the distinction between the two in this thread.

Which is ironic and humorous…potentially by accident.

whats_all_this_then OP ,

I’m an idiot and I think I confused the two haha

My thought process based on when I setup my config: “yank copies to my main ‘buffer’, <leader> yank copies to system clipboard through that special ‘buffer’, and <leader> delete deletes without replacing what’s in my main ‘buffer’. I have multiple clipboards!”

Completely forgot they’re called registers and that buffers are just “where text is” (at least as far as I understand it)

konkonjoja ,

I kind of assumed that his comment was independent of the meme he posted and served more to underline a perceived power that vim has over other editors. In this case a power OP doesn’t even understand/use himself.

iAvicenna , in I still don't get buffers
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

Are they also replacing X with q! ?

xmunk , in They fish(1)'d her out of the sewers last night as she failed to stumble home after a night of binge drinking

Sorry, but do you not want a pack of guys to be piping your mom? Assuming it’s all consensual, most moms enjoy getting piped too!

kamen , in AI Suggestions

The opposite of the opposite of “left” is “wrong”.

Land_Strider ,

Thanks, this solution worked for me.

Edit: What the hell, I’m trying to reply to a parent comment below.

Klear ,

Something went not not left.

JATtho , in gut pull

My most common typo is gti <random command> and I’m considering to alias it as rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

flying_sheep ,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar
JATtho ,

I was suspicious as heck of this link, but I thank you for being benign.

andrew_bidlaw , in AI Suggestions
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

It knows, the time is right.

pyre ,

when the AI says the time is right it sounds ominous

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

And then it replaces datetime output with the countdown.

Klear ,

The time is right when there’s no time left.

puppy , in I still don't get buffers

Buffers are great. Comes very handy when creating macros in vim.

whats_all_this_then OP ,

Do you yank to places outside the regular target when you create macros?

puppy ,

What do you mean by regular target? I am either yanking from the OS buffer or yanking things from 2 different buffers. Or I have 2 macros where they yank from different buffers.

unhinge ,

I think you mean registers not buffers. buffers are file(s) loaded in memory while registers contain text yanked/deleted/last command/last search, etc.

puppy ,

Yeah sorry, I meant registers.

chonglibloodsport ,

What’s annoying about them is that there isn’t a simple way to clear a register which means you have to use both “r and “R in macros.

Sotuanduso , in AI Suggestions

I was surprised when I made attackPower and it suggested defensePower next. It was then that it sunk in that the autocomplete was AI.

pyre ,

i mean, “AI” is already a glorified autocomplete

Sotuanduso ,

Well, LLMs are, at least. But also, autocomplete is already AI, so really LLMs are just glorified AI. And that checks out, they are the ones that get all the glory*. Everything else is just spooky algorithms.

*Except for walking robots and stuff like that.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

I am becoming increasingly convinced that so is the human brain.

pyre ,

then i hope it’s not swiftkey’s

Emmie ,

AI of today is a marketing slogan. Well, same as AI of yesterday. There is so much AI around us but not an ounce of intelligence.

vox , (edited ) in AI Suggestions
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

don’t get the negativity towards copilot in other comments.
it’s a really smart autocomplete, and this is exactly what i wanted for the past 5 years.
(yeah it’s not going to replace programmers or whatever people’s exaggerated opinions of it are)

wanna quickly create a wgpu bind group?
let texture_bind_group = <tab> <tab> and it’s smart enough to understand the context and pull in texture and texture sampler that are already defined as local variables.

too lazy to type this obvious thing in?
(like of course the next opcode islet op = self.fetch();) just press tab and move on with your life.

wanna quickly refactor something?
select, ask CP Chat to “replace all if statements with match”, check if it’s correct and click confirm (it will even show git-style diffs, so it’s hard for something unexpected to slip in)

it’s not perfect, and it’s suggestions do not match your intention like 50% of the time but when they do match or your intention is REALLY obvious (like you already wrote a clear and concise variable name and need to complete the value), you’re a single keypress away from completing those 2 lines of code

It’s not a total deal breaker but it’s definitely very useful. (especially for me, because of my very short attention span. unless i can quickly complete a thing I’m currently working on in less than a minute i will forget about the next 10 things I was thinking of doing)

also i don’t believe the price is justified, but it’s free for students so of course I’m gonna use it.

(you just need to verify your student email and upload a photo of your student id on education.github.com, and you get a free gh copilot subscription, gh pro account, priority support and promos on loads of services like heroku etc while you’re a student)

bisby ,

too lazy to type this obvious thing in?

This has been the thing for me. I get really bored and lose focus when doing all the obvious repetitive stuff. And the obvious stuff is the stuff I find copilot does best. For anything that requires thought I’m engaged. Those are the fun parts of the job. It lets me do more of the fun part.

The one major downside that I’ve found is that sometimes I just want to tab complete a long variable/function name, and because of copilot i dont have “old style” tab completion anymore. (I could definitely still handle this myself, but i haven’t)

edit: this all to say that I don’t use copilot to write code that I don’t know how to write, I use copilot to write code that I’ve written 1000 times before and don’t want to write again. Copilot does a good job of looking through all the open files for context to help make sure the suggestions actually fit into the codebase’s pre-existing style.

CrossbarSwitch ,

I ended up making copilots auto complete use ctrl+tab and its been amazing.

MonkderDritte ,

What, you write your stuff always from scratch again?

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

well I’m using lower-ish-level stuff like wgpu a lot, so there’s a lot of repeated code in my codebase with only small variations, but I can’t really encapsulate it into anything since all of my pipelines are completely different and have different requirements (it’s basically already as encapsulated as it gets without limiting freedom)

MonkderDritte ,

Ah, yeah, situations like this always hurt me somewhere.

evatronic ,

I’ve been using it a lot lately in the day job.

My experience has been it’s close but wrong often.

It shines when I am doing the same thing for 20 variables, but then I should be using a loop instead and copilot won’t go there.

oldfart ,

What’s CP Chat? Im a bit afraid to type that into a search engine but it seems to be what I’m missing in my Copilot-assisted flow. It’s a great autocomplete but sometimes refactoring would be useful too.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

Copilot Chat

oldfart ,

Seems so obvious now, thanks

CompostMaterial , in AI Suggestions

You got it admit, it is a good suggestion. It just wasn’t the right one. But it is trained well enough to correlate left and right together. Since those are very commonly associated together it is certainly a logical choice.

bort ,

. But it is trained well enough to correlate left and right together

eliza could do that 60 years ago

marcos ,

Ah, come-on, why do you think Eliza could do that 60 years ago?

(It couldn’t. It’s at most 40 years old technology, and way more likely just 30. Even though you could program Eliza to do something like this, it would be way too specific for any use.)

bort ,

It’s at most 40 years old technolog

the 60s were 60 years ago

marcos ,

It’s the kind of thing you would see at the 90s.

The 60s had room-sized computers that were busy calculating payroll.

NikkiDimes ,

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

You could easily Google these things and educate yourself, but you choose to instead blindly spee your incorrect opinions.

You’re either an idiot or a troll, and frankly, I don’t care which. Just stop.

Matriks404 ,

huh

Morphit ,
@Morphit@feddit.uk avatar

Ah, come-on, why do you think Eliza could do that 60 years ago?

Does that question interest you?

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

Why hasn't it been incorporated into IDEs until now?

nxdefiant ,

Up until now most people hated when shit randomly popped up while they were typing.

The Apple went and made the iPhone and now we have a whole generation that expects it.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

Within IDEs people go out of their way to install Intellisense so that "shit randomly pops up while they're typing." There are companies whose whole existence depends on people wanting that to happen.

best_username_ever ,

it’s good but it’s wrong

That’s impossible.

FaceDeer ,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

To the contrary, I see code like that all the time in my career. I've written some.

Tamkish ,

wdym it isn’t the right one? It clearly says time RIGHT

cupcakezealot , in AI Suggestions
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

wibbly wobbly timey wimey

pewgar_seemsimandroid , in I still don't get buffers

any emacs elitists here?

JoYo ,
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

they have no use for copy buffers, they are still configuring emacs.

xmunk ,

No, but I’m happy to talk to you about our lord and savior nano

whats_all_this_then OP ,

Get out

xmunk ,

Sorry, is that… esc… then : then q and ! or did I get the order wrong? Can’t I just ctrl+o ctrl+x?

Baleine ,
@Baleine@jlai.lu avatar

We be rocking that kill ring !

whats_all_this_then OP ,

Obligatory boo and/or hiss

I’ve also been meaning to give emacs a try but haven’t found the time or energy to figure out how to exit vim

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

just get QT browser and search it with any search engine

TheOakTree ,

I had to learn emacs for my engineering computation class, up to the point that we were required to present our code in emacs if we had questions to ask during office hours.

I got quite used to it by the end of that course.

Hexarei ,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

What would an operating system need yank registers for? Maybe if you get a good text editor to go with it, like Evil Mode 😉

sping ,

I’m just an emacs … enjoyer (…?) and I just don’t understand the post. I’m pretty sure buffers here refer to something different from emacs buffers as they’re completely unrelated to clipboards. Then from a quick scan of the plug-in mentioned it seems to mimic the clipboard ring emacs has had for many decades (always?).

Basically I have no idea what’s going on here.

tsonfeir , in AI Suggestions
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Just…. Type it?

How lazy are we becoming?

humorlessrepost ,

This wasn’t made for programmers. It was made for middle management who think the reason the ticket is taking so long is because the devs can’t type more words per minute.

FooBarrington ,

Guess I’m not a programmer, because this feature has been a real god-send in my recent projects.

EatATaco ,

The other poster is either speaking from a place of ignorance, as they’ve never really used it, of they just aren’t smart enough to learn how to use a new tool.

As much as middle management sucks, devs blaming management for their own inability to learn is almost on the same level.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i mean i still think tab/auto completion is good to save time.

the problem is when people become reliant on it and just have it write entire chucks of code without going through it and checking it or changing it after the baseline is done.

fossit ,

Then that wouldn’t exactly be a time saver, but rather time-consuming? Paradox

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i mean finishing a variable declare with a tab is pretty convenient.

as is autocompleting an html5 structure.

GammaGames ,

Yeah, usually it’s pretty good autocomplete. Definitely makes my coding faster (and highlighting a chunk of SQL and asking it to modify it in plain English is magic)

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Autocomplete is fine, but do we need “AI” to figure out left and right?

And I agree, chunks of code are bad.

tiefling , (edited )

Stuff like this is really useful when variable names are annoying, or when you have to repeat the same monotonous pattern over a large batch of code.

My favorite use of AI in code so far has been refactoring deprecated feature flags. “Replace enableXYZFeatureFlag with true and optimize the code”. Bam, 1-2 hours’ worth of crunch work solved in minutes.

Kache ,

If it takes 1+ hours of work to remove a feature flag branch in an area of code, I wouldn’t trust the correctness of anything the AI writes and would be super skeptical about anything the humans had written.

tiefling ,

It takes a long time because it hits a lot of files, not because it’s logically complex. Also, that’s why unit and integration tests exist.

BurningnnTree ,

Can you please describe how you do this? I thought Github Copilot can only make changes to the currently open tab? It’s been a few months since I’ve used it, and I’ve only used the Visual Studio version, which I think isn’t as good as the Visual Studio Code version. Has Copilot already gotten to the point where you can tell it to make changes to an entire codebase?

tiefling ,

I do go file by file, but I just copy and paste the same query into each. It also gives me a chance to do a quick review before moving on. It’s still a manual process but it’s a HELL of a lot faster than manually refactoring.

(I can’t give too many more details though since I use proprietary software that isn’t public facing)

Oinks ,
@Oinks@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You could say that about any kind of autocomplete. Why would people install snippet plugins into their vim/emacs? Sure you can just type everything by hand but it’s just more convenient.

Personally I find these kinds of inline AI suggestions make a more convincing use case than trying to prompt engineer a Chat based LLM and diverting your attention to phrasing specifics instead of the actual problem space.

JoYo , in I still don't get buffers
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

ive never had to think about clipboard buffers until i used a modal editor.

now i spend %60 of my time trying to figure out where the copied symbol went.

evatronic ,

I don’t have the name handy, but there’s at least one plugin for vim that shows buffer previews in a popup. I’ve got it mapped to leader-sb (for “show buffer”).

JoYo ,
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

yah, helix has that in the info bar oob.

im just not thinking about that when im copying shit, i just want to copy paste like it’s 1999.

whats_all_this_then OP ,

Telescope?

whats_all_this_then OP ,

So far I haven’t been brave enough for that feature. It’s either “that main place yank goes”, “system clipboard”, or “that place that makes it disappear” for me

unhinge ,

You can see all registers in use with :registers, to paste from a register say "2 in insert mode use key combination <ctrl-r>2 or in normal mode "2p. You can check out more in :help registers. Unnamed register or “” is the system clipboard I think. To copy texts in a register you can prepend yank (/delete/cut, etc.) with that register "_ (for black hole register[^black_hole]) This is for neovim. Have keybinds for them and there saved you a plugin :D

[^black_hole]: Text yanked in this register is gone, i.e. it’s not saved in any register.

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