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squid_slime , in Songs about Vim
@squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

Sudo visudo is always a struggle

Amaltheamannen , in The simplest mistakes happen to the best of us

What am I looking at?

malloc , (edited )

Whoever committed this change thinks updating the text on the UI for this system will automagically fix issue.

It’s like editing the HTML on your bank’s website to show you have $1B in the bank 😂

Issue here committer forgot to update UI to expose the feature person was working on

victorz ,

I’m not convinced that’s it, but I don’t know enough to explain why.

Amaltheamannen ,

Yeah without more context it just seemed they were renaming the setting as part of a larger diff

Aatube OP ,

It says "1 changed file..." at the top

Aatube OP ,

No, the settings already existed, they just forgot to expose it

malloc ,

That makes sense now. Thanks for extra context.

Aatube OP ,

(Here's some more context: The button is in the UI, but it exposed a completely different function than advertised, probably due to being generated from copy-and-pasting the previous button)

moon , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

MtF Trans

bouh , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

I am an engineer. Most developers aren’t though, unfortunately.

namelivia , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

I just say IT

bitchkat ,

Gross. IT to me is a support role, not the reason for the company’s existence.

DaleGribble88 ,
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From someone who transitioned from operations to development over the course of their admittedly short career, this is a poor mindset. Much like how you shouldn’t disrespect a janitor or a nurse, you shouldn’t say “gross” about IT work.
IT may not be the reason for the company’s existence, but it is what allows it. The company may not exist without you, but you don’t exist without IT.

EncryptKeeper ,

Generally speaking software development is not a part of IT.

namelivia ,

I’d say in English there is more of a difference, in my native language the term is more blurry I’d say, for a random person it just sounds as “computers”, and to most people that’s all they care about.

EncryptKeeper ,

In English that more general word for the entire industry is “tech”. Thats the closest comparison to just using the word “computers”.

namelivia ,

Ah true, thank you! Then it is tech what I say

xmunk , in And don't forget RTFM

As a developer I object to your assumption that I need a mouse to do my job. The only thing I need a mouse for is outlook and I’d definitely be more productive without it.

nightofmichelinstars ,

www.mutt.org

Disclaimer: I have never used this but I did a Google for you. It looks reasonably maintained.

GBU_28 ,

This is my imposter syndrome.

I’m a senior engineer now and I’m a big mouse user. It’s more intuitive for me. My productivity is certainly not bottlenecking on how fast my hands move on the keyboard. .

My productivity is bottlenecked by the number of meetings I have to attend, random slack messages that need to be responded to, and distractions IRL.

isVeryLoud ,

Nah fuck the haters, the keyboard-only workflow may be technically more productive, just like a Dvorak is better than a QWERTY, but what matters is your output and your quality.

supercritical ,
@supercritical@lemmy.world avatar

People will spend hours learning things that save them seconds.

xmunk ,

I’m not going to shame anyone about using a mouse unless you also always right click to copy/paste.

nexussapphire ,

Only because I have figured out how to copy from vim to other apps without the mouse yet.

swab148 ,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

If you ever find out a way, please DM me

nexussapphire ,

I’ll probably get back to you in a few years, still mastering the motions and actions.

swab148 ,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

Haha, same lol

swab148 ,
@swab148@startrek.website avatar

Hey, if you’re still wondering, I found this on SE: vi.stackexchange.com/…/how-can-i-copy-text-to-the…

nexussapphire ,

Thank you for this, now I know I have 26+ registers to store stuff in as well as the system clipboard! Honestly been so busy I haven’t touched my computer in over a week.

Ookami38 ,

I choose to eschew my mouse when I can because it’s easier. I don’t have to move my arms around as much, and I can work quicker. It’s more comfortable. All of this is a preference thing, why should anyone do something my way if it’s not how they prefer?

GBU_28 ,

Great perspective. If we are codeving or screen sharing, I’m fast and fluid. I just move differently.

Skiing vs snowboarding

swordsmanluke ,

One of the best programmers I worked with was a hunt and peck typist.

His code was meticulous. I frequently learned things reading his PRs.

Pair programming with him otoh…

nexussapphire ,

It’s for navigating web documentation when arrow keys are too fine but page up/down keys are too coarse.

I guess you could hit tab 9000 times to get to the right hyperlink. I’ve done that when setting up Hyperland on an Nvidia GPU and my cursor was there but invisible.

wathek , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

You may call me Computer God. Or God for short if i deem it acceptable.

pythonoob ,

I’m only human, though I am working on that…

nelly_man , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

I prefer Software Engineer, mostly because I studied at an engineering school and have a degree in Software Engineering. My actual titles have varied throughout my career, but I overall consider myself a software engineer.

DAMunzy ,

I’m curious if you’ve looked up whether you’re allowed to call yourself an engineer in some states (US centric of course)? I read years ago that some states really frown on calling yourself an engineer if you aren’t a certain small range of engineers that they have codified (pun intended) in law.

Sweetpeaches69 ,

I think that’s only a civil engineering thing.

Source: work in the industry, and “Civil Engineer” and “Professional Engineer” are legally protected titles. Other than that, it’s fair game. Like, there are “Design Engineers” in the civil sector that don’t have their Professional Engineer certification.

emberwit ,

In Germany the title engineer is protected by law but with a computer science degree you may call yourself an engineer.

Sweetpeaches69 ,

Oh, wow, TIL.

AA5B ,

Same. My current role is most accurately DeOps or DevSecOps - my education actually predates “Software Engineer” but it was a Software degree from an Engineering school, and with a more technical focus than the similar degree from Arts and Sciences. But yes, every time I due process improvement, standards and practices, etc, that makes it “Software Engineer”. And every time I have to explain to developers how their stuff works, yes, I’m “The Engineer”, capitalized

humbletightband , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

I only want to be called darling. Or a filthy worm, depending on the situation

ThatFembyWho ,

Filthy darling

LouNeko , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

A “good girl”

ThatFembyWho ,

Wtf. I came here to make this same comment.

Thought I’d be super clever haha. Take my upvote instead

taanegl , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

“…daughter dearest.”

“Wow, this guy programs.”

Zink , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

I have always considered myself an engineer because I’m part of a multidisciplinary engineering organization designing a physical product that has embedded software. And “engineer” is the word at the end of my degrees, I guess.

But if somebody called me by any of those terms in the OP I would answer. And if somebody who works on an app or a video game calls themselves an engineer, it wouldn’t raise an eyebrow.

My only conclusion is that we here, who spend our days specifying exactly what we want computers to do, are not so great specifying ourselves exactly.

MystikIncarnate , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

Honestly, the longer I work in tech, the less confidence I have in anyone’s title. Even searching for a job, different companies have different ideas of what, pretty much everything is…

I’m more on the side of IT support (sysadmin/netadmim/systems engineer/network engineer/second/third level support/engineer/whatever tf)… And even looking for a job for myself, it’s a nightmare… Even mundane details about the job are messed up. I saw a posting for a “remote support technician”, by their definition, this was “remote” as in, not from an office. The job was on-site support for remote sites. I don’t even think it was an IT position, more like mechanical maintenance IIRC. So you were “remote” aka, not at their office, doing support (for something not electronic), as a “technician”.

It’s bullshit all the way down.

When I was last looking for a job someone commented that I had “only” applied to x positions in y weeks, when their search for (some vague title related to my usual employment) had z search results, where z was more than 10 times x. I didn’t bother replying but I couldn’t help but think, did you look at any of those postings? I literally had a search filter for jobs that was “CCNA” (Cisco certified) and I literally had administrative assistant positions coming up… Those are little better than secretarial jobs. I know because I clicked on it because maybe, just maybe they meant an assistant to the systems administrator, but no, it was exactly what it said on the tin.

This is my frustration with IT. There are zero standards for what a job is. Developer? Is it software or something related to construction? Engineer? Are you examining the structure of something or building out IT solutions? Admin? Office admin? Systems admin? Department admin? There’s too many “admin” related jobs… “Support”? Supporting what exactly? Am I programming switchports, or is this some other kind of bullshit support.

That’s not even getting into all the actual IT jobs that are clearly out in left field. Sysadmin jobs that require years of experience with an application that’s extremely specific to one industry; an application you could learn likely in a matter of days, which isn’t very complicated, but your resume goes in a bin if you don’t have some very specific certification and a number of years of experience with the related app… I know that because I’ve applied to such positions and didn’t even get a courtesy email telling me to pound sand.

Which takes me to another point, you don’t get rejected. You get ghosted. They don’t want you? Fine, tell me that. You don’t even have to give me a reason, just some copy pasta about pursuing other candidates. That way I will know to not expect anything further, and keep trying. I mean, I’m going to keep trying no matter what, but still…

The whole job market is a hellscape.

Then, I can turn my attention to the pointless titles people have, which often don’t mean shit outside of your specific workplace. “Lead customer success technician” … Ok, wtf is that? What does any of that mean? Are you technical in the sense of working with information technology? Or is it one of the DOZENS of other “technical” things? Everyone is a technician and everyone is an engineer now. Those terms used to mean something. Now they’re just keywords to blast your resume with to try to match some AI filter so you can get a call. If you don’t play the game, your left behind.

I feel bad for all the professional engineers out there who hold degrees in real engineering. Now anyone, everyone and their mother is calling themselves some kind of engineer. It’s all word salad and I hate it.

GenderNeutralBro ,

We are all SEO Engineers on this cursed day.

MystikIncarnate ,

Oh my god.

agressivelyPassive ,

The reality is also, that development is so extremely diverse, that it’s hard to find umbrella-enough terms to describe a job.

For example, I’m a senior software developer on paper.

I’m not senior, not even 10 years job experience. But I seem to be rather good at what I’m doing, so I’m a senior now.

I’m also hardly writing any code. I talk to customers about what they want their software to do, I talk to management about how many people I need, I review pull requests, I talk to junior devs about their problems, etc, etc. Maybe 10% of my time is actual code. But what title other than “developer” should I have?

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

Maybe “software producer”? (a term I’ve never seen used anywhere but that sort of makes sense when you think about what a movie producer does, for example)

merc ,

Manager

Sailing7 ,

A few more titles that you will hate, but actually describe your role. You are in no sense just a senior developer.

You are an

  • Architect
  • Solution Architect
  • Project Manager and Team Leader
  • Service Manager

Which one fits best, you have to decide. But i would put this up on my resume if i had your responsibilities.

agressivelyPassive ,

It’s not a huge project (3-4 devs, including myself), there’s simply not enough to do for a dedicated architect. PM and SM are done by dedicated roles, but as a lead dev, I obviously have to play translator quite a bit.

AA5B ,

Yeah, I struggle with that.

  • I’m not allowed to be called an Architect because the Lead Architect only allows product people in the role, however I’m equivalent rank.
  • I spend way too much time doing project management, but I despise that
  • I don’t lead a specific team or have people but I set requirements for engineering and sometime borrow people from teams
  • I’m in the Quality Engineering organization but don’t do QA
  • some people think I’m a Build Engineer, and I do set some of their requirements
  • some think I’m AppSec, and I do try to fill their gaps and apply their work to the organization.

Recently, maybe DevSecOps sounds most accurate, and I avoid talking rank so I don’t piss off that Prima Donna

Dashi ,

In my career i have gone from Systems Engineer to professional services to Profesional services team lead to Senior Systems administrator to now just Systems administrator. All doing basically the same IT stuff at progressively higher levels other than the team lead part.

When i was looking for my last job i applied for a remote admin job and experienced exactly what you described. I was on the third interview and was asked when i was going to move to the area and if i wanted a relocation allowance as part of the offer. Uhh what? To them a remote admin was an administrator that went to remote sites. What a waste of my time

icedcoffee , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

If you call a dev a programmer and they don’t get huffy they are hands down one of the raddest people you’ll ever meet.

crispy_kilt , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

I make computers do useful things.

MajorHavoc ,

I make computers do useful things.

This exactly. Sometimes I also make the computer do what the client asked for.

Edit: And there was that one time the client asked for the computer to do something useful. But I think that was a fluke.

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