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What does your TV/Movie streaming setup look like?

Specifically I'm wondering about the TV frontend UI. Presumably most people are going to be using an android tv box like fire tv or chromecast? Something else?

I recently picked up a new chromecast 4k that has the "Google TV" OS on it and... I'm having a hell of a time coming up with a UI that looks similar to the stock one (with movie recommendations, up next, my watchlist, etc) but that hooks into piracy streaming services.

For launchers I found projectivy, but I noticed that the "channels" feature which pulls in that sort of thing is remarkably limited. Streaming-wise I've got stremio and cloudstream, and only stremio lets me pull in my library into projectivy. Which is okay but I can't get that synced with trakt or getting recommendations; it all has to be managed from stremio.

whereas cloudstream doesn't really have any connectivity at all. There's a few streaming services that somewhat pull things in but it's not great. Netflix doesn't seem to hook into it, nor plex. It ends up being better to just use the stock home and manually launching into stremio/cloudstream when I want them.

Surely there has to be a better way to do this? The stock home screen is nice with free live tv, movie recommendations that link into various paid streaming services, etc. I'd just like to hook in something like stremio, plex, etc. instead, but that seems impossible?

What exactly do y'all do for your setups? Trying to manage my google play watchlist/likes independently of trackt, and then also managing my stremio library separately from both just feels like hell. I end up having to take mental note of the stuff I see on the home screen and manually searching it up.

The live tv channels that the stock homescreen has is seemingly not replicated anywhere else which is a bit disappointing. I saw the old android tv menu get really close to what I'm after, but I can't manage to get it working on my newer chromecast. The menu installs, but the channel feature doesn't work, making it pointless.

Is there a better way?

slym ,
@slym@lemmy.ca avatar

Running jellyfin and *arr servers on promox running on a small form factor . For the tv i’m using a roku stick with jellyfin channel.

jasep ,

Similar but I’m running either Nvidia Shield or Google TV. I use Kodi with the Jellyfin for Kodi plugin as the front-end. It’s great.

brian ,

Has the Jellyfin app improved for Roku in recent years? Last I tried it, maybe 2 years ago, it was near unusable from a UI perspective

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

It is certainly usable. Though for whatever reason the series “invasion” from apple tv gave it fits. But everything else I have watched on it was fine. I’ve only had mine setup for a few months though. Roku in one room, tivo stick (android) in another. The tivo stick handled invasion. Both needed some minor tuning though.

Elkenders ,

Yeah it’s the weakest part of the setup on a Chromecast TV running the android app. Works really well mostly though the interface could look slicker. There must be hardware deciding unavailable for some stuff because the odd bit of media is ultrasluggish.

Sethayy ,

Depends on the hardware you give it I’m pretty sure, a later gpu will support all codecs but older ones might not be able to encode/decode even h256

Elkenders ,

I’ve got the 4k one with Google TV and it still doesn’t have hardware deciding for some of my collection. Not much, maybe 1%.

Sethayy ,

Whoops, I read your original comment wrong, I meant server hardware - but that’s real weird its not transcoding right to whatever your Chromecast supports

Elkenders ,

Yeah what’s with that? It’s still stuttery even after I downsample. And only on specific files.

1hitsong ,
@1hitsong@lemmy.ml avatar

Works really well mostly though the interface could look slicker.

Our first priority is stability and functionality. Roku’s built-in UI components aren’t the prettiest, so if you want anything “slick” it has to be a custom element and you’ll need to custom code all the behind the scenes logic yourself. That’s a ton of work just for a UI change, so we’re focusing on functionality first.

pureness ,

thanks, do you have any guide or additional info on setup?

slym ,
@slym@lemmy.ca avatar

You will have to install proxmox on a computer ( that is an os you will have to create a bootable USB key for that ) here the website to check that out : proxmox.com/en/And all my server are lxc, i launch all the lxc’s with those open source script : tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

Just search for the jellyfin one ans the *arr that you think you will need .

sylverstream ,

What is the advantage of running proxmox vs install eg Ubuntu, Docker, and manage it via ssh and Portainer?

slym ,
@slym@lemmy.ca avatar

Well it depend of what you want to do with it. Proxmox is an hypervisor so is job is to manage VM and in the case of proxmox also lxc container . So with proxmox you will be able to manage multiple machine with any OS that you would like and need. For lxc’ i’m pretty much new to it but if i can explain the difference with docker is that lxc are container at the kernel level and docker is at the software level. Also proxmox bring a lot of fonctionality with convenience like snapshot, firewall at the hypervisor level, backup of yours vms and containers, vlan and more . I know that some of it can also be emulate with docker but i find it easier to do with proxmox with the limited that i have to play around my local infrastructure.
If you want there’s a lot of tutorial and explaning about proxmox that are very interesting on YouTube i think it would be the best way to understand everything that proxmox could bring you and you will be able to make your own opinion on it.

Welcome in the rabbit hole of selfhosted enthousiast.

sylverstream ,

Welcome in the rabbit hole of selfhosted enthousiast.

Haha yes looks like it. I only have 1 server (to be bought) and a RPI, which should be sufficient. Proxmox seems overkill for that scenario; I’ll just run Docker. Thanks.

slym ,
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pineapplelover ,

Jellyfin on my Synology NAS with all the extensions to get me subs and metadata

Using on Findroid changing media playback to MPV in settings and using respective Jellyfin native desktop clients on Ubuntu and Arch

Uriel_Copy ,

Ty for the heads up on Findroid!

pineapplelover ,

Yeah with the mpv player integration, you can play a lot more media codecs and subtitles work better if they haven’t been working in the normal jellyfin app.

Uriel_Copy ,

Looks like it’s coming to Android TV soon too!

pineapplelover ,

That sounds amazing!

Caligvla ,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I like how nobody bothered to read the post and actually answer OP’s question…

Otome-chan OP ,
@Otome-chan@kbin.social avatar

They did, albeit indirectly. It seems the answer is "no one has done this" which means it's likely not possible with the software that's currently made lol.

Seems most people just go through plex/jellyfin/emby with their usenet *arr setup. Which is no doubt cozy, but it doesn't quite grant the experience I'm after lol. I think most people are just used to launching into a streaming app to see what's on there since that's how most paid streaming stuff works too for the most part. The google tv/amazon fire tv homescreen setup is fairly new and apparently unused by basically everyone lol.

I might have to look into just coding my own launcher to get the features I want lmao. seems like a huge endeavor though. Right now I just have my remote set to be able to instantly jump into my preferred streaming apps, and single/double press home to switch between stock launcher and projectivy. It's not great lol.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Synology NAS —> Plex Media Server VM —> TV, Chromecast, Roku TV (which supports a lot of formats w/o encoding), Other devices

Yes I know Plex is getting a lot of crap but it still works and the encoding support is better than Jellyfin. I have Jellyfin ready to go if this ever changes but I am a happy Plex Pass customer.

Diplomjodler ,

Jellyfin on a very low end mini pc running Linux Mint and a Chromecast. Simple and effective. I’ll swap out the Chromecast for something open source some day when I’ll get round to it, though. Just because.

thegreekgeek ,
@thegreekgeek@midwest.social avatar

Have you heard about Matter casting? That’s what I’m waiting for.

FIST_FILLET ,

very simple, i just host files on an external hdd on my macbook (which i use all day anyway) over plex, then watch through apple tv. i tried Infuse in the past, but their library and metadata handling is just atrocious (and there is like a 5+ year old active forum thread of people repeatedly begging the devs to allow “custom shows” through manually created .nfo files, but i guess the devs care more about superficial UI changes and abandoning their previous one-time purchase option in favor of subscriptions)

chahk ,

Server side is UnRaid hosting various arr Docker containers, with a dedicated Intel QuickSync box for Plex and Jellyfin Servers. On the client side 2 Roku Ultras and a couple of Chromecasts.

Drinvictus ,

Chromecast with Google TV Stremio + Torrentio with real debrid

Changed the button for Netflix on the remote to open stremio and now I just hit one button and boom… everything I want to watch is in front of me. All for $3/month.

1111 ,

I have the exact same setup. How do you remap that button

Drinvictus ,

An app called button mapper. Available on play store for TV. Just search for it like any other app

Greyfoxsolid ,

I would also like to know how to remap the buttons.

Drinvictus ,

It’s an app called button mapper

Perhapsjustsniffit ,

Someone is gonna bust my balls but whatever. We have an Alienware R8 hooked up to a 20 year old Sony flatscreen tv and an LG sound bar. No fucking about at all.

dfc09 ,

I went on a deployment, got a nice gaming laptop for that. When I got home back to my desktop, I basically had no need for it so I hooked it up to my living room TV. At first I just played some controller friendly games on it, but now I use it as the entire media center with Stremio and qbittorrent and the likes. I use unified remote to have my phone as the remote.

Clent ,

Plex with Apple TVs. This requires a lot of transcoding but I have dedicated hardware.

I’ve tried many alternatives over many years but they all eventually annoy me. I’ve been doing this long enough to know eventually something better than Plex will come along but that day has yet to come.

I don’t have any streaming services. They are all terrible and I prefer to put that money towards more hardware, mostly hard drives since my library is of the data hoarding style, ever increasing.

My setup is entirely automated via various watch lists.

IMDb watch lists and Plex watchlists as well as various lists setup to retrieve based on cast / director involvement that feed into Radarr and Sonarr allow titles to be added from my phone.

The added benefit of a my automation setup is that I can lose a hard drive and the system will self heal.

CleoTheWizard ,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

Would you mind providing a bit of detail about the Apple TV transcoding thing?

I’m new to the plex server space and I’ve been working with a bit of a similar setup, hosting off of an Nvidia shield but streaming it to an Apple TV.

So far I’ve had some stuttering problems in plex that seems to have existed for awhile with HDR content. What gives?

crossover ,

Are you using the Plex app or a third party app such as Infuse? Infuse can handle more codecs and things like image-based subtitles that I don’t think the Plex app can handle, which should reduce transcoding requirements.

CleoTheWizard ,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

Using the Plex app so I might give Infuse a shot, thanks

Reverendender , (edited )

I use an AppleTv4K with Plex and I have never had any transcoding issues since I upgraded to the M2 Mac Mini. When I was trying to run it off of my 2011 iMac I had transcoding problems up the wazoo for 4k content.

alcyoneous ,

I’ve had the same issue sometimes, usually switching the video player to “Use Old Video Player” (or vice versa) solves it. Sometimes the HDR tone mapping is a bit off then, but as another commenter recommended, Infuse works well for that.

retrieval4558 ,

*arrs / Jellyfin on a custom NAS running unRAID

For my daily driver tv, it’s an android TV with the projektivity launcher (maybe spelled that wrong, but I’m pretty sure there’s a k in there). It is a huge improvement over the stock launcher.

I’m also working on a media TV for my wife that’s actually a NUC running mint. Suboptimal distro choice but I want her to be able to use it as a desktop if she needs. On top of that is flex launcher to launch Jellyfin, YouTube, steam link, etc.

I had tried to make KDE bigscreen work but just could not get installed for the life of me.

Froyn ,

Stremio + torrentio + Real Debrid
Works like a champ on Chromecast

janabuggs ,

My Chromecast won’t stream anything with a high quality codec, such as HD mkv files. Are you running into this issue at all?

Froyn ,

Not since I replaced my router. 1.8Gbs is so much smoother than the 100mbs I was getting from the ISPs device.

janabuggs ,

Hm. I’m with a fiber* based ISP that requires use of their router. It sucks, but it’s that or Comcast which is indescribably bad in my area.

Froyn ,

Google the model number of the modem/router and it should tell you the speed of the Wifi built in. I'm using the ISP modem/router, but I've disabled the router portion and installed my own.

Elkenders ,

Which Chromecast you got?

janabuggs ,

Last year’s G454V HD. I end up handbraking to shitty mp4s because MKV and HD avi files cannot stream without lagging. I have tried streaming from VLC, emby, and plex

spacemanspiffy ,

Jellyfin running in Firefox on ArchLinux ARM on a Radxa Rock5b SBC.

Telodzrum ,

Shield Pro on the TVs, but they’re starting to show their age. If no one puts a powerful chip into a new Android box in the next year or so, I’ll probably move to AppleTV units. I wish there was an alternative, but nothing else has the horsepower that they do.

vulgarcynic ,
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

I have super high hopes we’ll see a 3rd gen Shield TV around the time of the new Switch launch. IIRC, the og Shields and Switch share the same Nvidia Chips.

Telodzrum ,

I really hope so. We’ve been extremely happy with ours. And, IIRC you’re right. I think the Switch has a slightly newer revision, but it’s almost entirely the same chip.

crossover ,

It’s a shame that AppleTV doesnt support TrueHD atmos. That seems to be the one feature that the Shield stands apart on, although the new model Firestick now support it, too.

I tried Kodi on Firestick 4K and the whole experience is super clunky compared to the AppleTV.

s38b35M5 ,
@s38b35M5@lemmy.world avatar

Show their age how? My 2015 pro is still awesome on GF Experience v8.x with GFN, Kodi and SmartTube. Installed an SSD a few years back and breathes new life into it.

Telodzrum ,

The chip struggles at higher bitrate files particularly when there is a more complex audio codec and HDR video. I’m surprised you haven’t noticed, it’s an extremely common complaint from owners online.

s38b35M5 ,
@s38b35M5@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe because I only bother with 1080 for the past year, but I used to regularly watch my 30GB 4k 10-bit files with no trouble, even streamed from my NAS.

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