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ArmokGoB ,

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samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

As far as being successful in the US, he’s right. I hate that this is who we are.

mycathas9lives ,

YEAH!!! RUNNING MAN!!! Let’s do this people. It is the logical next step. We have cameras, audience, and contestants. This would be a money maker for advertisers.

Illuminostro ,

“PAY ATTENTION TO ME!”

an_onanist ,

I dislike Trump as much as the next sane, intelligent human, but context matters. The ways specifically talking about going to NBC and running a show. And there, yes, ratings are all that matters.

enbyecho ,

I see orange man knows his Goebbels well.

intensely_human ,

Actually what trump said is “You can be nice” because “the only thing that matters is ratings”.

See? I can do bullshit too.

MasterNerd ,
@MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

Yeah I despise Trump but we don’t need to ignore context to make him look bad. He does that plenty without the quote mining

Skates ,

How the shit does someone not just Lee Harvey Oswald this man already? There’ve been better men killed for worse reasons.

TrickDacy ,

It’s mostly right wingers who murder for political reasons. When you know deep down your worldview is a snakepit, that’s when you decide to take the law into your own hands like that.

8565 ,

OK so this was Interesting so I dug into it

John Wilkes Booth was part of the Know Nothing Party a left leaning party

Lee Harvey Oswald was a socialist which is left leaning

Both women that shot at Gerald R Ford were part of different left leaning programs

Actually looks like most of the assissinations are done from left leaning individuals. Not that I’m taking sides on that matter just a cursory Google search

Illuminostro ,

Then why are 99% of mass shooters right wing?

Fuck Putin, by the way.

8565 ,

I think they are pretty well split.

AngryCommieKender ,

The left is educated enough to know specifically who they want to kill. The right just wants everyone that’s not them to die

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Since when are mass shooters assassinating political leaders?

Illuminostro ,

What that have to do with the vast majority of mass shooters being right wing lunatics?

Kolanaki , (edited )
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Well the thread and comment you replied to was about political assassinations, so what do mass shootings have to do with the conversation at all? You’re not wrong, it’s just irrelevant here.

Illuminostro ,

The point is in current America, Right Wing followers are much, much more likely to enact violence. And they do. With the Right Wing leadership continuously giving arms manufacturers a pass despite almost weekly mass shootings, via Russian bribes funneled through the NRA, it’s blatantly obvious they want their followers armed when they finally enact their Right Wing Theocratic Oligarchy. They’ll just demonize who they want dead via Right Wing Media (Fox, OAN, NewsMax, Shapiro, Walsh, etc.,) and their perpetually frightened followers will make it happen.

Again, fuck Putin, and any of his Tankie fellators.

Illuminostro ,

"Well, achly, I’m going to be obtuse and deflect from the actual issue by being pedantic. Checkmate, libcuck! "

You’re not smart, or clever.

TrickDacy ,

I’m not digging it back up but I’ve seen a lot of evidence that is exact opposite to what you’re concluding.

8565 ,

I wish you would

TrickDacy ,

I don’t have time. The problem is that academics do not want to be seen as making a political statement so you have to find a particular type of source.

I’ve definitely seen and fact checked lists of terrorist acts aside their committers’ political leanings. Most of them are right wingers, in the US at least. That’s been true since at least the 80s

cheese_greater ,

Even if thats the case, it implicitly suggests that leftists go after the powerful while rights go after the people. Their peers

intensely_human ,

What situation are you thinking of when you think of the right killing their peers for political reasons?

meowMix2525 ,

[citation needed]

Considering what these presidents were doing politically when they were assassinated for their politics, this sounds like a mighty convenient narrative for a dogmatically anti-communist state to feed to the populace after the fact.

8565 ,

OK for what one? It’s common knowledge about both Lee Harvey Oswald (who went to russia) and John Wilkes Booth. Squeeky fromme (who tried ti shoot Ford) was a member of the Manson cult you can look on Wikipedia for that if you want here is the Wikipedia link for Sara Moore en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Jane_Moore

Guntrigger ,

Interesting choices. I think the only valid one there would be the second attempt on Gerald Ford (Sara Jane Moore), who wanted to spark a revolution.

The first attempt on him was by one of the Mason Family (Lynette Fromme), who were sometimes described as hippies, but were also keen on bringing about a race war.

John Wilkes Booth seems surprising to call left leaning, as he was pro-confederacy and angry about the abolition of slavery.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Soviet defector, and did indeed call himself a socialist. However there’s the whole probable scenario that he wasn’t actually the shooter and never went on trial.

To mention other presidential assassinations, there’s Charles J. Guiteau, assassin of President James A. Garfield, who was a loyal republican, but felt he was personally wronged by the President (as well as mental illness).

Leon Czolgosz, assassin of President William McKinley would probably support your hypothesis more than the others, as an anarchist.

All in all, not really overwhelmingly left leaning.

8565 ,

I think your confused. The abolition of slavery was a right wing thing.

The want to have a slaves was left wing

Guntrigger ,

No. “Republican” does not equal “Right wing”. Maybe in the modern context, but political parties evolve and shift on the left right scale over time. The Republican party was originally established as a less Conservative opposition to the Democrats.

Besides, the policial party pushing for the thing is surely much less important than the thing itself. The act of enslaving a portion of the population, based entirely on racial divisions, is an extremely right wing position.

8565 ,

Ironically it’s also extremely left wing position.

intensely_human ,

How is enslaving a race a right wing thing?

Guntrigger ,

Racism isn’t inherently a political issue and isn’t the whole story of slavery, but is a major factor when talking about enslaving a race. However, its close relationship to other major factors like colonialism, nationalism, supremacism and xenophobia, as well as financial structures allowing such enslavement and ownership, are all found well to the right of the spectrum.

jaemo ,

21st century custom would seem to suggest a limited yield warhead delivered via FPV drone, whilst another recon drone films both.

Yes, the required moral barrier warranting it has long been cleared… It was past deserved back in the central park five days.

TheReturnOfPEB ,

If the assassination of Julius Caesar became a model for the effective removal of a tyrant, it was also a powerful reminder that getting rid of a tyrant did not necessarily dispose of tyranny.

-Dame Mary Beard

intensely_human ,

You talk as if being an evil politician is a predictor of being assassinated. That’s 100% the opposite of how that works.

Delusional ,

Yeah it’s the good ones that get murdered by people like trump and his dumb followers.

intensely_human ,

Yes. It’s the good ones who are assassinated. And no not by Trump. Not by Presidents. By hidden people you haven’t heard of.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Stupid american politicians aside, I hate how this community is just US news nowadays.

Yeah I know it’s because of the significant inherent overlap, but do we not have some /c/usnews or such?

Viking_Hippie OP ,

Stupid american politicians aside

…that’s like 60% of the headlines in the world that fit this community hand waved away… 80% if you only count the ones in English.

It’s like going to a baker and complaining that there’s too many flour-based products…

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

You seriously underestimate the stupidity of the global community.

Viking_Hippie OP ,

That’s probably fair. In my defense, though, American stupidity tends to be more well-documented, at least in English 🤷

Skates ,

I propose USA National Television & News, or /c/UNTnews for short.

Isa ,
@Isa@feddit.org avatar

He acknowledges then that he is evil!?

Viking_Hippie OP ,

In reality: yes.

In the minds of his cult following: nope, talking about Democrats, somehow, or joking.

GardenVarietyAnxiety ,

“People liking me is more important than anything else in my life.”

Lost_My_Mind ,

Some people never leave high school…

Glytch ,

People liking paying attention to me is more important than anything else in my life

Like a shitty child, he’s just looking for attention. Good or bad, attention is attention. Bad attention is easier to get so here we are.

DarkShaggy ,

Too many full / coherent sentences… obviously fake. 😁

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Normally, but malignantly narcissistic behaviour is just about the only subject on which he is a passionate expert.

schnokobaer ,

I was thinking the same thing, this quote is either 20 years old or fake.

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