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zepheriths ,

That leaves an interesting situation for Bruce banner/the hulk

IphtashuFitz , (edited )

I think it largely depends on his definition of “dumb”…. Given he’s already committed to wiping out half of all life, I’d consider his mental facilities to be of questionable intellect already. His idea of who is dumb may be similarly questionable…

fiat_lux ,

Can we please not hypothesise about eugenics and people's reactions to eugenics, with the current global climate?

Cryophilia ,

Pls touch grass

morphballganon ,

Entertaining how to react to fictional atrocities is useful in shaping our real-world responses to actual atrocities.

fiat_lux ,

Entertaining for the people who are certain that they're not a member of an arbitrarily defined group. Whether their certainty is well-placed is a different problem, I guess.

morphballganon ,

I’m using the word entertaining as a verb. It’s a synonym of considering.

fiat_lux ,

My mistake, I misread.

I agree that discussion is important in deciding responses, but discussions like these are also used as testing grounds for gauging acceptability. It's how places like 'active clubs' recruit and promote far-right extremism, they start with gauging the response to lower-level discrimination and slowly escalate to larger acts.

morphballganon ,

I don’t want to live in a world where we can’t engage in thought experiments.

fiat_lux ,

And I'm sick of living in a world where thought experiments are used to casually label people as dumb, disposable, but they're ok because they mention superheroes and that makes the whole thing outlandish. Until the atrocities occur, again and then it's "why didn't someone do something sooner?".

morphballganon ,

OP didn’t perform a snap. No one irl did.

You have to be able to discuss hypotheticals if you want to know what kind of person you are.

The fact that this hypothetical makes you uncomfortable is ok, it just means you have compassion and that’s valid.

That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t participate. I’m sure Steve Rogers felt the same way. He participated.

SpiralSong ,

I always wondered if your goal is to reduce population. Why not just make half the people infertile?

SpaceNoodle ,

Too slow

lazylion_ca ,

Has to be more than that. People can have multiple children and probably would have more just because they can. It’d need to be cut to at least one third or less.

SimpleMachine ,

Non-zero chance that the distribution of infertility does not match the distributions of male to female. Could result in complete population collapse pretty quickly.

Drusenija ,

What would make this question more interesting is can you think of any metric where they would flip, or at least consider it. For example, all the members of Hydra (a bad example, would never make 50%, but you get the idea).

PreparaTusNalgasPorque ,

I think the whole 50% depopulation is a flawed premise, of the hundred of thousands of years modern humans have existed that would throw total population back to... 1970

deweydecibel ,

It wasn’t just humans, it was the whole universe. He wasn’t concerned with how each individual species’ populations would fluctuate, he just had a solution in his head and went with it.

Ya know, the “mad Titan” thing.

swordsmanluke ,

Yup. His movie motivation was dumbed down. The whole resources thing is stupid for exactly this reason.

In the comics, Thanos became infatuated with the Marvel Universe incarnation of Death. …And naturally he figured that if he killed half the universe at once, he’d get her attention. (cause girls love it when a boy makes a huge amount of work for them…)

Anyway, his plan was still moronic, but “manchild does stupid thing to impress girl” is a classic for a reason.

Dalvoron ,

There is an addendum to his plan that might have made it make sense. If he had said something like “I’m giving the universe the chance to make better decisions”, suddenly having half as many people means (probably a little more than) half resource consumption, half the carbon emission, and more time to figure out and implement solutions to these problems. I’m not sure how the housing crisis would pan out, I expect it would get worse. It also makes more sense that he destroys the stones after “I gave the universe its chance, now the ball is in its court”.

This also solves the doubling resource problem. His motives are to pressure people to change their ways. Giving them more stuff might cut hunger, but you’ll just have that hunger again in 50 years and we’d probably increase carbon output to boot, and destroy more environment to get these doubled resources.

I don’t know enough about the stones to say whether “infinite resources” or whatever cheat code would have worked, but they certainly could have dropped a line that it wasn’t possible, or that it would cause more problems than it solved (how does chemistry even work in this universe? If nothing ever gets used in reactions then the chemistry that makes our bodies work is borked)

But anyway, as the Russos did not put this line in, the premise was flawed

SnipingNinja ,

Maybe the classic: “Impossible to create something out of nothing”, even with the magical stones

Nioxic ,

Then we know he would have killed all of GOTG

cooopsspace ,

You could take like 80% for all I care, I’ll be fine :P

Eggyhead ,
@Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

They all would have been wiped out.

Kolanaki ,
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Why couldn’t Thanos just wish for unlimited resources? Or universal peace? Or literally any number of things that would have solved the problems he was trying to solve without anyone getting hurt or never existing? His method was stupid.

SpaceNoodle ,

But then you don’t get to massacre people

people ,

His method was stupid

He would be part of the dumbest 50%.

DudeBro ,

I think that the motive should be allowed to be dumb, and their mistake was making Thanos appear lucid and competent. They really should have leaned into “the mad titan” thing and made him act more like an unhinged despot.

WHYAREWEALLCAPS ,

Right? Nothing about him seemed really that insane or unhinged. Even killing Gamora, his adopted daughter that he appeared to care for, can be explained as him doing whatever it takes, not being insane. Even what he did to Nebula came off, to me, as just him being extreme in his desire for her obedience and perfect, like any other obsessed and controlling parent.

Honestly, he came off more as the “annoyed Titan” than anything else.

Kolanaki ,
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That would have at least made his non-sense make sense. If he’s crazy, he gonna do crazy shit. That may even be why I have always preferred the over-the-top cartoon villains. They were insane, and their plots didn’t have to make sense because they were insane.

“I’m gonna blow up the world!”

“But, um… aren’t you part of the world?”

“Shut up, you and pull the lever!”

cerement ,
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would’ve still fought him because their job isn’t to stop evil, it’s to maintain the status quo

Cryophilia ,

See this is why I hate when people are like “just watch this 20 minute long video!” The video just restates what you said in one sentence that took me 5 seconds to read. It states it over and over again, slowly, interspersed with reading long quotes, slowly, for 20+ minutes.

randon31415 ,

You killed all of our kids!

morphballganon ,

Avengers would have been much better prepared. T’challa, Hank, Janet, Dr Strange could have all helped plan the response. Bucky, Sam, Hope, Peter Parker could have all helped execute the plan.

Also Scott since he wouldn’t have been trapped in the QR.

Drax and Quill are still goners. The rest probably aren’t snapped.

Vision, Gamora, Loki, Heimdall unchanged since they died before the snap.

underisk ,
@underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

If anything, I’d say eco terrorism is a far more defensible motivation than eugenics.

twelvefloatinghands ,
@twelvefloatinghands@lemmy.world avatar

Keep in mind that people are part of the eco being terrorismed

twelvefloatinghands ,
@twelvefloatinghands@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly the same

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