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How is Lemmy better than Reddit?

I am a reddit refugee. Keep seeing that this is supposed to be somehow better than Reddit. As far as I can tell, it follows a similar format, less restrictive on posts being removed I suppose. But It looks like people still get down vote brigaded on some communities. So I’m curious, how it’s better?

trk ,
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

It’s not, but it’s old Reddit with more attributes that prevent a transition to corporate Reddit so I’ll take it.

paddirn ,

It still falls into some of the same pitfalls that Reddit had (groupthink, reflexive commenting, power-tripping mods), but some of those problems I don’t know that there’s a way to get around them in this format, they’re just a human nature sort of issue. I appreciate that Lemmy doesn’t appear to be owned by a giant mega-corp trying to harvest our “intellectual”, but we’ll see how that pans out in the future. I’ve just gotten used to every online service I’ve used eventually going to shit.

I like that there’s no advertising at the moment, I don’t know that I would mind it so much if there was advertising, as long as it was kept minimal. I know these things don’t just happen for free and if money is needed to help keep the lights on and such.

Buttflapper OP ,

A very obvious solution to groupthink is to do away with the silly voting system. I don’t know why they kept it. A very simple solution would have been to just assign votes to a topic based on how much attention it’s getting. In simple terms, If opposed has 10,000 people that have viewed it, 1,000 people have left a comment, compared to a post that has 100,000 views and 15 comments, you can tell which one should have more attention score. The upvote and downvote system is too easily used as a dislike or like system. Many of us have the maturity to upvote something because we think it’s a good discussion point even if we don’t agree with what the person is saying. But a lot of people don’t think that way mentally. They see something, they read it, immediately go into toxic hater mode and just downvote it for no reason

PlzGivHugs , (edited )

The problem is that you then end up with sites based on attention, leading you into the (imo even bigger) pitfall of every other social media site, where things like attention-grabbing, clickbait, and sensationalist content has a massive advantage. Look at what gets sorted to the top on platforms where that is the main metric, things like Mr. Beast’s low-brow, cacophonus videos, children’s content, scantily clad women and softcore porn, and gambling or otherwise particularly addictive content. Even focusing on comment count alone means a focus on topics that are both broad-appeal and controversial, more like what you get out of Twitter’s trending topics: mostly politics and flamewars rather than experts sharing their research, or artists sharing their (non-pornographic) art.

Don’t get me wrong, voting isn’t a perfect system at all, but it correlates with quality far better than engagement does.

Blackmist ,

Loony power tripping moderators can only ban you from their little bit rather than from the whole site.

UniversalMonk ,
@UniversalMonk@lemmy.world avatar

Loony power tripping moderators can only ban you from their little bit rather than from the whole site.

Amen!

bitjunkie ,

Typical comment quality is off the chain. Leddit has been going downhill for years in this area.

Buttflapper OP ,

Can you explain why? Not sure I follow

bitjunkie ,

Pun threads

rezifon ,

Puns are their own rewords!

bitjunkie ,

Pubes are there own returds!

  • fucking every redditor now
inbeesee ,

I recently migrated here. I did so as a precaution, and still browse reddit sometimes .

Reddit IPO’ed, and is now focused on making money. They removed the API to centralize it’s power and remove 3rd party apps. They threatened subreddits who protested, and shut some down. And have made sweeping changes to accommodate to advertisers.

The straw that broke the snoo’s back was the CEO hinting at subreddit paywalls. I figured I would try to learn Lemmy again, and what do you know, it’s more serious, has better comments and posts, segmented even more than reddit with the distros, and fully free/open source.

It also helps that I’m a huge computer nerd, and there’s a lot of that on here, but you can find your niche.

Der_Fossyler ,

Hello fellow nerd 👋

JackbyDev ,

Welcome! Don’t take this wrong, but why didn’t you come sooner? Reddit has had paywalls for as long as I can remember. r/TheLounge is an example of a famous one but any subreddit could enable restricting themselves to premium only.

inbeesee ,

That’s actually new information to me! The news was pointing to a broader push to subscriptions for subreddits site wide. Definitely not doing that.

I also admit that I am deeply unhappy with reddits enshittification. I’ve been on reddit for over a decade and joined when I was in highschool. Moving was the last thing I wanted, but I’m more aware of the big-corp-monopoly we’re all suffering under. This is part of it.

JackbyDev ,

I ripped the bandage off a few months before they shut down the API. I had to quit RIF cold turkey. I wanted it to be “my choice” if that makes sense. The official Reddit app just didn’t do it for me.

I hope you enjoy your time here! I’ve liked it. My biggest piece of advice is to be the content you want to see. There is a lot less content here than Reddit. That’s good and bad. Good because you get bored a little easier and move on lol, but bad because it can get a little boring. It’s gotten a lot better though!

The other thing, and this is just a pet peeve lol, is that the proper way to link to communities is like !community@instance. A lot of people try to do c/community which doesn’t work. If you do !community alone it will link to the local community which could totally not exist or have different rules etc.

example: !programming

UniversalMonk ,
@UniversalMonk@lemmy.world avatar

My biggest piece of advice is to be the content you want to see.

Totally agree with this. BUT just know that for some Lemmy’s, they get suspicious pretty quick.

My account is less than a month old. I found a vast hole of the kind of content I want to see, so I started posting a lot. Starting communities, replying to replies on my posts, etc.

And pretty much every day I get called variations of being a troll, spammer, trumper and/or russian asset.

Doesn’t keep me from posting, and I think it’s hilarious. But just a heads up to anyone reading. Tho this thread is old so maybe no one will. But I found this thread just now, so… lol

Blaze ,

Welcome!

Capricorn_Geriatric ,

Lemmy isn’t a single website like reddit.com is. It’s rather a collection of decentralised servers (“instances”) offering the same service (one very similar to reddit). It’s often compared to e-mail - just as Gmail users can talk to Outlook users, lemmy.world users can post and comment on lemmy.ml from their home instance.

What this does is it removes the centralised aspects of Reddit - if a community has powertripping mods one can make an alternate community (like on Reddit). But this goes a step above - powertripping server admins can be reigned in by simply switching instances.

Angry_Autist ,

There are not quite as many trolls yet and at least some mods are rational.

The admins are about the same degree of terrible though, but without the fascist coddling.

VinesNFluff ,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Decentralization.

That in itself is a huge advantage. Otherwise it’s just Reddit 2.0

CurlyWurlies4All ,
@CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net avatar

No corporate control

CurlyWurlies4All ,
@CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net avatar

Democracy manifest!

exanime ,

It’s federated so much more unlikely to be enshitified by money interests.

Right now the community is smaller and manageable so less bots and trolls

thermal_shock ,

it’s not. still have power hungry mods that ban and block your messages on the slightest disagreement. it’s still a cesspool, but mostly because of the public.

Duamerthrax ,

less restrictive on posts being removed I suppose.

Depends on where you landed and your political alignment, but lemmy.world is fairly reasonable at least by what I’m looking for. If you start saying radical things like “Mao’s Great Leap Forward” wasn’t a very good thing on certain instances, you may be banned from there, but with your account residing here, it wont be deleted.

LoveSausage ,
@LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Genocide bad will get you banned from .world , bunch of extremist

Duamerthrax ,

Not .world at least. Check out /c/Tankiejerk for some examples of what I’m talking about.

icedcoffee ,

No spez. The rest is kinda similar (except on a technical level that mostly matters to nerds)

sunzu2 ,

You ain't got to be a nerd to appreciate benefits of decantrelization. We need more of in in pretty much every aspect of our lives.

Mega corps and governments are colluding to fuck peasants over.

mightyfoolish ,

No company owns every single Lemmy instance. That’s the only guarantee you are getting; however, that’s where all of the tiny differences come from.

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