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‘Appalling And Indefensible’: Elon Musk Incites Rage Online After Claiming No One Is ‘Trying to Assassinate Biden/Kamala’

Full tweet:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ea3b3191-2549-462e-9721-228351dcba5c.png

As usual, he’s now claiming it’s just a joke. mediaite.com/…/elon-musk-deletes-appalling-and-in…

Fedizen ,

imagine fake laughing for this guy

jaggedrobotpubes ,

Yeah because everybody everywhere doesn’t want then dead/irrelevant.

I get a kick out of it STILL only being trump people who are trying to kill trump. It’s like if reality were trying to paint trump supporters in an overly negative and biased light.

Kcap ,

Closed my X account a couple days ago. He’s truly gotten out of control and my feed had become riddled with conspiracy theory fear-mongering garbage. Good riddance. I encourage others to leave as well, it’s the only way he’s held accountable unfortunately.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Just a joke? Which of his wives will he blame for posting that? Isn’t that what conservatives all do? Blame their wives?

Funny enough, two posts away from this one it sure sounds like someone is threatening Harris’ life.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0d7acc92-8b0f-44c8-a967-2ac4eb2e5ca9.png

KillingTimeItself ,

i mean yeah, nobody is really trying that… They aren’t really divisive figures, the divisive shit they do talk about is entirely made up.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

With the way klansmen in Ohio fell on the local Haitian automotive workforce like ravenous hyenas, I don’t think you need more than that to turn certain people in the US absolutely feral.

Just whisper “Kamala Harris ate my dog” into the Internet and you’ll have a military parade of psycho rednecks calling for her head.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

And the American Oligarch will continue to face no consequences for his actions.

orcrist ,

That’s not exactly true. He has lost a massive amount of public respect. He bought Twitter and now the company is worth much less than it was before. His credibility has gone down considerably in the last few years.

AdolfSchmitler ,

They canceled my man Kyle Gass for less fuck you Elon!

some_guy ,

Can the secret service please just go get this guy? No? Oh well.

Noel_Skum ,

Elon Musk is the joke. It’s just not funny.

dodgy_bagel , (edited )

Fellas, is it a crime to advocate for the assassination of the current vice president?

Because that could be another one of Donald’s charges. Just saying.

norimee ,

Biden/Kamala

Not just the current vice president. The current President of the United States.

Easy to forget in this lunacy of an election campaign, but Biden is still president.

djsoren19 ,

no, but it’ll kill your career to joke about the assassination of a former president, because in this country we believe in double standards.

dodgy_bagel ,

Conservatives love the quote “the shrub of freedom needs to be watered with the blood of parrots from a time to another time”, so they’ve got a healthy dosage of normalizing violence.

They also LARP about Rome, which had a long and storied tradition of assassination. Famously, citizens of the republic were encouraged to strangle anyone who tried to become King… right up until they didn’t.

Anyway, the Romans weren’t always monsters; they just usually were.

orcrist ,

Typically the first amendment is going to protect you when you say most things. The types of things you definitely don’t want to say are specific threats.

But there was a sad situation in Colorado where the courts ruled that a guy could be locked up for saying that he wished that bad things fell upon some judges, even though he definitely didn’t say or imply that he was going to do them. So if you want to rely on the Colorado precedent, maybe there’s something to work with, but it’s a pretty terrible precedent.

That all being said, let’s not wish death on anyone. Even if it’s someone who’s done horrible things, let’s just wish that they’re forced to retire early and either get locked up in prison, if they committed crimes, or live out there lives in miserable condition in some community that we never have to visit or think about.

Fedizen ,

you can wish death on dick cheney, as a treat

blunderworld ,

Do we really need a news article every single time this dumbass posts?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

When he violates federal law? Yes.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

We need charges when he breaks the law more than News articles.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, well I can’t charge him. All I can do is raise awareness.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Could call on officials to press charges and encourage others to do likewise.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I have no contacts at the United States Secret Service.

Anyway, who have you called on to press charges?

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t live in the States, so I have no one to call. I am encouraging citizens to ask for enforcement of their laws.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Again, I have no contacts in the United States Secret Service.

Perhaps you should check on how our laws work before encouraging us to do things beyond our abilities.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

All out of ideas

4lan ,

Give one single idea

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

lemmy.ca/comment/11679194

MyOpinion ,

It has been reported that this has now been deleted. He called it a joke, but damn what a terrible joke.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It wasn’t a joke. That’s his go-to excuse when people generally decide he’s said something atrocious.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

It’s also the go to excuse when getting called out when gaslighting someone.

tee9000 ,

I mean it was probably a joke.

Jerkface ,

I don’t get it. Could you explain it to me?

tee9000 ,

Idk maybe that democrats are the ones trying to kill trump? That was my first impression anyway.

DasAlbatross ,

And that’s a joke how?

tee9000 ,

I dont see that as a call for people to assassinate biden, but a sarcastic accusation that democrats are trying to assassinate trump.

Listen i know most comments are trying to voice a grander opinion but mine is simply a genuine belief that he was being an edgy dumbass who didnt consider how much influence he has over dumb people that might see it as a call to action of some kind.

If you are truly asking me then theres my answer. If you are trying to uncover my secret status as a disinformation agent or something then please… leave me alone.

DasAlbatross ,

Why are you getting so pissy when people respond to the comments that no one forced you to make.

So nowhere in that response do you say how it’s a joke. At best it’s a baseless accusation that democrats are trying to assassinate Trump, flying in the face of all evidence that the people going after him are Rebuplicans. At worst it’s a call for assassination of the democratic candidates.

I don’t think you’re a disinformation agent. I think you’re either a Elon nuthugger or a useful idiot uncritically parroting Elon while ignoring everything he’s said and done for the past few years. Maybe both.

tee9000 ,

What if you werent right about that though and i was offering my perception based on very little context?

Its just frustrating how stuff gets extrapolated to make me something im not based on nearly zero information about me. Why does it always have to be about who the commenter is instead of the fact that it seemed like elon probably thought he was joking or not being irresponsible? I think hes an idiot who misguidedly pursues free speech for its own sake.

Can you really tell me any response to my comment has good intention to talk about what elon meant? Because it just seems like people want to destroy some unsorted injustice by calling me out for other things i might think.

MacAnus ,

I see you dude, just wanted to say at least one person gets what you’re trying to say (hope i’m not alone). Sadly, according to lots of people, you can’t give the enemy the benefit of the doubt without it meaning you agree with them.

tee9000 ,

And i really appreciate that. I know im complaining about the worst of lemmy, and there are much better places to find compassion in people than a political sub and these people just want a higher ethical standard in the world… but damn if we dont need a better way to communicate about this stuff.

MacAnus ,

If I understand correctly he’s not saying he thinks it was a proper joke, only that it seems to him that Elon thinks it was a proper joke.

Duamerthrax ,

Jokes have setups and payoffs. Humor is the subversion of the expectation and Musk’s tweet has nothing resembling that.

tee9000 ,

Yeah i can imagine theres a definition he isnt meeting for him to call it a joke. Im saying i think he truly believes he wasnt being serious. I think he was being edgy and sarcastically accusing democratic elite of an assassination attempt.

And i would expect someone to follow up with how irresponsible that is, and that it still doesnt fit the webster definition of a joke. Please understand that im an imperfect human being who was giving their opinion about their perception of musks intention based on very little context.

Sometimes its impossible to post a comment of your own opinion when it could potentially be percieved as going against what is objectively morally right… when really there is no deeper meaning than my perception.

Duamerthrax ,

Im saying i think he truly believes he wasnt being serious. I think he was being edgy and sarcastically accusing democratic elite of an assassination attempt.

You might think he’s being edgy. Hell, he might think(if he ever thinks) he’s being edgy, but out of the numerous people who blindly follow him, how many do you think need to take him seriously and take him up on the suggestion.

There are jokes you can make to a private group of friends that you can’t make to over a million people unless you really mean it. It doesn’t help that twitter has a short character limit on messages. You simply cannot have a nuanced opinion on that site and need to consider that when making posts there.

tee9000 ,

I get why you would see someone calling it a joke and want to punish that because it was not funny and potentially dangerous.

But it can both be true that he was trying to make a joke, and that he was grossly irresponsible doing so.

You are telling me what i believe (that it wasnt a big deal) and im sorry but this reactive extrapolation of information that is constant and pervasive on sites like lemmy is something i hate and anyone can say im taking it too seriously but it keeps people from engaging/thinking instead of memeing.

Duamerthrax ,

I get why you would see someone calling it a joke and want to punish that because it was not funny and potentially dangerous.

Please define punishment in the context. Is criticizing Musk punishment?

But it can both be true that he was trying to make a joke, and that he was grossly irresponsible doing so.

What’s the point you’re trying to arrive at? Where he’s making jokes or making stochastic terrorist comments, I can criticize him either way.

You are telling me what i believe (that it wasnt a big deal)

Everyone is coming to that conclusion. If you think everyone is misinterpreting your comments, that’s because you are not a good communicator. I do not have the same problems as you.

tee9000 , (edited )

I guess i have been overly defensive against you, but i saw your first semantic argument as being obtuse when to me, saying it was probably a joke does not evaluate to: ‘musk is blameless and im siding with him’.

Defining a joke to me, seemed a little combative compared to asking me a clarifying question so i felt like you were trying to discredit me instead of trying to understand, which seemed like punishing a commenter for not aligning with the sentiment of the chain. In hindsight i think your comments were fair…

Forgive the run-on response: The top comment on this chain mentioned it was a joke, and the reply was that it was not a joke. I guess they could have meant that from the perspective of a semantic definition of the word joke. I interpreted it as them saying musk did not intend it as a joke.

When someone says “i was just joking”, it does not always mean they delivered a joke by your definition provided above, in fact its usually the case that it doesnt because they are having to tell their audience its not a joke. If i were interpreting “i was just joking” with the intention to accurately understand that person, i would assume they meant: “i wasnt serious”, “i thought it was funny to say that”, or “whoops that wasnt recieved like i thought it would be”.

All that to say: to me, musk genuinely seemed to miscalculate the poor taste of his comment. In my opinion, Musk didnt seem to try to incite violence, which is the basis for the outrage. He is just short-sighted and the consequences are far reaching compared to a normal person saying something which would otherwise just be “a bad joke”.

Edit: And yeah to be clear i think he’s an idiot. But i dont think he had evil intention here.

ShaggySnacks ,

The “It’s just a joke, bro” defense. Classic defense.

Seleni ,

‘Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?’

JusticeForPorygon ,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Hate to break it to you E, but the Secret Service does not give a fuck if you were joking.

datavoid ,

He’s rich, they might

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

He’s rich, the Secret Service doesn’t give a flying fuck what he says or does.

riskable ,
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

The correct response is for thousands of people to respond on Xitter with, “And no one is even trying to assassinate Musk 🤔”

billiam0202 ,

Which would be worse for him: someone actually trying to do so as a result of said post, or realizing that no one wants to because no one cares enough about him?

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