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Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Things that most Americans encounter:

  • friends and family who’ve had abortions
  • friends and family who’ve undergone fertility treatments
  • housing that is too expensive

Things that very few Americans encounter

  • people burning flags in the street
  • fully packed Trump 2024 rallies

This guy is a fucking clown.

lettruthout ,

Because people burning flags is a common occurrence and is a big deal. /s

He’s drowning in his own bs and grasping at anything, just anything, to try to stay relevant. /not s

shalafi ,

It’s dumber than that.

Flag burning was a big deal in the 60s. I remember calls for a Constitutional amendment gaining traction back in the 90s (maybe 80s?). The controversy was all over the news for some time and the right considered your take on it to be the litmus test of “true American.”

Trump’s reaching decades into the past, for what it currently a non-issue. It’s not desperation, it’s senility.

mkwt ,

Based on this logic I guess we should see Harris campaigning on ERA any day now…

(Long wait)

(Checks watch)

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

It actually is a common occurrence, since the U.S. Flag Code specifies that burning is the preferred method of disposing of flags that are no longer fit to display.

KoboldCoterie ,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

The US flag code literally calls for the flag to be burned when it’s no longer fit to display:

The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

Cethin ,

Yes, but ceremoniously is the intent. I’ve done many flag retirements. These flag burnings he’s referring to are as a message, which is totally fine and protected by the constitution, but it isn’t dignified. It’s not supposed to be. It wouldn’t send the same message if it were.

owenfromcanada ,
@owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar

First ammendment? Never heard of it.

SpaceNoodle ,

*ammmendment

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

ammmmendmmenmemt

expatriado ,

people care too much about symbols

Cosmonaut_Collin ,
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

Symbols are an effective way to manipulate people emotionally. It provides people with an identity making it feel like they are fighting for their own ideals and not someone else’s.

Nougat ,

It's political speech. Trump wants to cancel the First Amendment.

Dagwood222 ,

The argument I’ve heard is that The Founding Fathers could have never had any idea that people today would be so terrible.

The Founding Fathers saw statues of the King pulled down and British flags burned.

They knew all about destroying symbols and didn’t put anything about it in the Constitution for a reason.

realcaseyrollins OP ,

I suspect that broadcast and social media has poisoned the people.

Dagwood222 ,

Yup.

jumjummy ,

If we respect the flag so much, then apply the same penalties to those stupid Blue Lives matter flags, the flags with Trump’s ugly face on them, or any of the other MAGA crap that desecrates the flag.

/no, this is not serious, and no, burning a flag should absolutely not be a punishable offense

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’m an Amendment-to-Be,

Yes, an Amendment-to-Be,

And I’m hopin’ that they’ll ratify me.

There’s a lot of flag burners

Who have got too much freedom,

I wanna make it legal

For policemen to beat 'em.

'Cos there’s limits to our liberties,

Least I hope and pray that there are,

‘Cos those liberal freaks go too far.

“Why can’t we just make a law against flag burning?”

“Because that law would be unconstitutional. But if we change the Constitution—”

“Then we could make all sorts of crazy laws!”

"Now you’re catchin’ on!"

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/7/76/The_Amendment_Song.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121210174614

(Turns out you don’t need to change the Constitution, you just have corrupt Supreme Court Justices pull “interpretations” out of their ass.)

HubertManne ,

you pledge allegiance to the flag! Which is made in china!

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Gonna get carpal tunnel pandering this hard, Donny

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

naw. the people he’s dictating to are gonna get carpel tunnel.

which is a shame because they’ve got to be pretty good at taking dictations to keep up with his shit.

realcaseyrollins OP ,

MAGA is more about mental gymnastics than dictations, to be fair.

But y’all are probably right on both points. Have you seen how much Trump posts on Truth Social? He’s probably had Carpel Tunnel for YEARS!

pivot_root ,

After long enough, stroking anything is gonna give you carpal tunnel. Ego and conservative ideals included.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Who gives a shit about this issue other than weirdos?

realcaseyrollins OP ,

Plenty of normal people care about this, but they’re authoritarians if they actually support this policy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What “normal people” care about burning a flag?

realcaseyrollins OP ,

A lot of them are veterans and older immigrants

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Where is your evidence for this?

realcaseyrollins OP ,

Completely anecdotal, to be fair. I’ve seen some videos of veterans as well as first generation immigrants complaining about the desecration of the flag.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Then I stand by my position that the people who give a shit about this are weirdos. Because, believe it or not, being a veteran or an immigrant doesn’t shield you from being a weirdo.

andrewta ,

So since my uncle who is a vet and because he cares about the flag he is a weirdo?

figaro ,

As an American, if there is a law that says I am not allowed to burn a flag, I will go to the store, buy every flag available, and burn them all.

First amendment = best amendment

Dramaking37 ,

This is a good opportunity for compromise. Let’s all agree to burn confederate flags instead.

DaddleDew , (edited )

As the planet is turning into a hostile desert, as the wealth divide is reaching new highs, as people are dying while trying to jump through hoops imposed by their health insurance to get the life saving treatment that they need, as people working 40+ hours a week can’t afford rent for themselves, let alone raise a family, as conglomerates are abusing the crap of their dominant position on the markets, as autocraties are feeling emboldened to use violence to impose their will on the free world, finally, we can count on Trump to really be connected with the people and know what their concerns really are.

finley ,

Who is even burning flags anyway?

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

The Boy Scouts burn a lot of flags.

Because that’s how you’re supposed to (reverently) dispose of one.

realcaseyrollins OP ,

Pro Palestinians/Hamas supporters do it occasionally, but you make a good point, it doesn’t happen all that often

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