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Biden 'not confident' of peaceful transition if Trump loses

US President Joe Biden has said he is not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.

"[Trump] means what he says, we don’t take him seriously. He means it, all this stuff about ‘if we lose it will be a bloodbath’.”

Mr Trump’s comment that it would “be a bloodbath for the country” if he loses the election, made as he was talking about the auto industry in March, triggered a wave of criticism.

The Trump campaign, however, said the comment was specifically about the auto industry and had been deliberately taken out of context. It sent a fundraising email which said Trump’s political opponents and others had been “viciously” misquoting him.

solsangraal ,

lol classic biden

come on joe, it’s been established that you can “say it like it is”:

trump is going to incite riots and violent insurrection, he’s going to demand the military stage a coup, he’s going to call for civil war. trump is 100% going to attempt 1/6 ver 2.0 and there isn’t a human being over 5 on the planet who doesn’t know that to be the case

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The one thing I am fairly certain about though is that, assuming riots like that are happening in D.C., Biden will not hesitate to send out forces to stop it. Trump could have but didn’t want to.

There might be a few more Ashley Babbits this time.

solsangraal ,

ah gotta love the old “just try breaking into my house and i’ll introduce you to my shotguns!!!” crowd lamenting over the cold blooded “murder” of someone breaking into not-her-property

and yea. if these maga chucklefucks think DC is going to be the same soft cushy environment it was in 2021, then they’re even dumber than i thought. which is pretty fucking dumb. in addition to the dozens of snipers (that are visible), i’d be surprised if there’s a square inch of space in the whole motherfucker that isn’t covered by at least 4 cameras.

7U5K3N ,

My dad tried to talk about how “they just killed her” a while back…

I was like: they gave her a lawful order. She was literally breaking into one of the most secure facilities in the world. She saw the trained men with the loaded firearms pointed at her and proceeded to move through a broken down door…

And then don’t forget that oath… From all threats foreign and domestic… she was a domestic threat. And the agent removed that threat.

Shut him right up.

These idiots want to fafo? I hope dark Brandon is waiting for them.

Natanael ,

And she had military training and knew exactly what orders that guy had, so she knew it was going to happen, she was just betting that they wouldn’t dare or that their group of insurrectionists would overpower them. But she failed on every count and paid with her life.

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

Of course he’s gonna try it again, you took it far too lightly last time. Maybe Kamala will enforce the law

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t it kind of his job to make sure there is?

d00phy ,

Yes, but there’s only so much he can do. Of course there are things he can do to prepare for violence, both directly and in coordination with state governors. That said, if people want to protest, they’re going to protest. The way things are, there’s a fine line between maintaining the peace and oppression. Republicans have, for years, been laying the groundwork for the oppression argument. It’s easy to say, “who cares” to that, but if enough people think they’re being oppressed by the government, things will get more violent.

grue ,

No. The danger here is GOP-controlled states refusing to certify a Trump loss, and the Federal government/Biden doesn’t have any power over that.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

refusing to certify is one thing, and isn’t necessarily violent.

if the transition of power is not peaceful, that’s an entirely different manner, and yes Biden has the power to deal with that.

grue ,

Corrupt election boards trying to throw the election to a corrupt House or corrupt SCOTUS is what causes violence.

kent_eh ,

Of course he has the power to deal with it.

But I think any sane person would hope that he isn’t put in the position to need to deal with it.

Naich ,
@Naich@lemmings.world avatar

This is the entire quote:

“No, we’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected. Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the country, that’ll be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars, they’re building massive factories.”

The context is talking about Chinese cars, but the bit where he says “it’s going to be a bloodbath for the country, that’ll be the least of it.” really looks to me like he’s saying there will be a bloodbath in general if he doesn’t get elected, the one in the car industry being small compared to it.

I don’t know why I’m spending time and energy examining the idiotic ramblings of the orange gibbon.

Shawdow194 ,
@Shawdow194@kbin.run avatar

The context is great! Its exactly like his other interjections - usually uncorrelated and exactly what's really go in his mind

His bigot blurts are about the only truth he speaks

7U5K3N ,

I understand he is talking about cars… but that’s not how anyone has taken it…

As a left centrist in a deep deep red state. I’ve got yet another firearm on order currently.

My politics boil down to

I want my state sponsored medically insured gay married neighbors and their adopted freely educated children to be able to protect their legally grown pot plants with fully automatic ak47s.

Lol

Hilariously those beliefs are sins in the face of my neighbor’s… Which blows my mind.

bstix ,

I predict riots regardless of who wins.

The only way to avoid it is if either side wins with a landslide, showing that the majority of the country is for the elected winner.

girlfreddy OP ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Anything less than a 60/40 win (either way) and it’s gonna get crazy.

Varyk ,

I doubt it. trump appears to have lost a lot of persuasive power.

If Harris wins, I’m pretty sure all the conservatives are going to slink back under rocks for the next few years.

grue ,

If Harris wins, a lot of places where Trump “should have” won are going to falsely claim fraud and refuse to certify their votes, leading to another Jan 6.

MagicShel ,

The damage Trump and his ilk have done to this country by undermining the public trust in some of the best run elections in the world is incalculable. It will be decades if ever before that damage is undone.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Yep. Guaranteed they’ve already figured out the specific people they need to put pressure on when the time comes.

grue ,

Here in Georgia, I’ve got a front-row seat:

(Reminder: Georgia is the state that not only went blue in 2020, but also saved the Democratic majority in the Senate.)

Dead_or_Alive ,

I would respectfully disagree with that assessment.

Even if 2024 is a huge enough electoral wipe out that Trump and his MAGA base are embarrassed to follow through on the violence they’ve been promising for years. Yes, Republicans might slink away and hide.

But they will rebrand and be back within a few months. We’ve seen this before at the start of the Obama Presidency’, when the fall out from the G.W. Presidency showed that Republicans had shit the bed sooo hard, even hard core Republicans that I knew denied they ever supported W. (Even though a few had fucking pictures of the asshat on their office walls for years.)

But the useful idiots that make up the core of the Republican base were back in a few months as “Tea Party” Republicans. Fully funded and promoted Koch and other billionaires. All those hard core W. supporters suddenly got angry and jumped on that band wagon.

Make no mistake they will be back, even in the best case scenario. (Which I very much doubt will happen.)

Cosmonaut_Collin ,
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

Well, guess I better Pokemon Go to the polls.

queermunist ,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

A landslide will convince people it was rigged.

jprice ,

It’s better in fact because there won’t be much of a transition. All you’re doing is giving the vice president your presidency dumbass. These old people, bro.

If the domestic terrorists attack again just put them in the ground this time. Easy peasy.

Voroxpete ,

I see a lot of handwringing about this, like "Oh, even if Harris wins they’ll just attempt a coup again!"and it’s like OK, and? Your solution to them stealing an election is to let them win it legitimately instead?

Yeah, voting isn’t a magic pill that solves everything. You still gotta wake up the next day and do the work.

Cornpop ,

What’s there to transition if he loses?

teamevil ,

Trump said he doesn’t need the votes which is far scarier. They need to fear the consequences of trying to steal democracy from us.

P00ptart ,

But there’s been so many.

“Dictator on day one”

“You won’t have to vote anymore”

Those are just the two off the top of my head as I’m heading back into work on my lunch break.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Everything bad Trump ever says is either “a joke” or “out of context.”

Weird how often he says things that everyone things he means and then he doesn’t mean them. I sure wouldn’t vote for a guy like that. He’s weird.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You and me both, Joe.

Diplomjodler3 ,

Well, he’s got the most powerful “security” apparatus in the world under his command. The charge of the yokels on mobility scooters shouldn’t be a problem to deal with.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
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“Taken out of context” MFers when they actually read the primary sources of the Confederacy (⁠ノ⁠ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ⁠)⁠ノ⁠彡⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

Got_Bent ,

It sent a fundraising email

Trump’s response to everything, good, bad, indifferent, or wildly spun

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