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MyOpinion ,

He can defiantly crush Vance and speak to the Midwest. I think that is what matters.

jwt ,

Defiantly definitely works too ;)

psmgx ,

Dude got nominated like an hour ago. How are they putting out articles like this?

Like the average person ain’t even got home from work on the east coast.

reddig33 ,

They are preloaded and ready to go. They probably have other articles in the can for the other names that were being considered as well.

It might also surprise you to know that major news networks pre-tape celebrity obituaries just in case that person dies.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

And then there’s the video for the end of civilization: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhPzHhnFl0

TheBananaKing ,
FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks, that was amusing.

fukhueson OP , (edited )

Well, he didn’t just crawl out of a hole, he has a record. The article is making the claim that he has the potential to bring together different elements of the democratic party, which ultimately is the party of everyone else that isn’t voting Trump. This is a big tent with a lot of perspectives, and while democrats are largely united against Trump, that doesn’t inherently mean they’re just as united behind the candidate (as we just saw), and those kind of things are ripe for Republicans to pick at and promote infighting.

CodexArcanum ,

Big news sites will do things like write up a story announcing a presidential win for each of the candidates, then only publish the one that matters after the election. This way they can have a story on the front page within minutes (seconds these days) of having official results.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Vox had 1 of these lined up for each of the likely VP picks. If not that, it certainly wouldn’t be unusual for a journalist to do their homework on all of the candidates and to have the rough outline and some key facts ready to go for each. If you’ve already done most of the research, assembling the final story shouldn’t take more than a couple of hours.

ImADifferentBird ,
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Walz has been known to be on the shortlist for at least a week, probably longer. They probably had articles like this in the pipeline for all the likely candidates.

CosmicTurtle0 ,

The campaign worked with news outlets and let them write the articles, under what’s often called an embargo. Basically, in exchange for holding the story until it’s announced, the journalists can write the story ahead of time.

Source: dated a girl who worked in PR and a girl who was in media relations for a large company

skittle07crusher ,

Because it’s Zach Beauchamp and he essentially hates the left.

I know everyone is giving you tidy, case-solving “it’s-always-like-this” responses, but indeed you are on to something.

Let the anti-anti corporate work begin (Walz and Harris being the [somewhat] anti-corporate).

fukhueson OP , (edited )

Hmm… are you talking about Zack Beauchamp? Or someone else with publications that represent what you’re saying?

vox.com/…/el-paso-shooting-white-supremacy-rise

vox.com/…/republicans-white-identity-politics-new…

www.vox.com/…/liberalism-way-of-life-lefebvre

vox.com/…/far-right-authoritarianism-germany-reac…

But whatever, facts don’t matter here, considering how many comments want to trash this article (without reading past the title :) )

kent_eh ,

Presumably various media outlets had articles prepared ahead of time for each of the possible outcomes.

criticon ,

The best one I found is this opening from cnn:

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz hadn’t been in the top tier of potential running mates for Kamala Harris until the past few weeks.

No shit!

www.cnn.com/2024/08/06/politics/…/index.html

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

People had a week to draft one for each VP candidate being vetted.

Like Carter’s obituary - write it now so you can publish it early.

cabron_offsets ,

He was the best choice. They can win and we can finally force trump to account.

JimmyBigSausage ,
Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Walzris

bazus1 ,

Donald Trump is ideally suited to expand Kamala Harris’ appeal across the ideological spectrum.

Nougat ,

Headline suggests that the Democrats - who are currently more united than they've been since probably Kennedy - aren't united.

fukhueson OP , (edited )

I think that’s a pretty simplistic take considering we just swapped our candidate less than 6 months before the election. I agree with the article’s take that Walz has potential to unify the differing democratic coalitions, and don’t see any evidence of your claim.

Walz’s elevation earns the left a big victory. Yet because Walz himself isn’t of the left, the pick seems intended to serve a unifying purpose: a candidate who appeals to all different stripes of Democrats for different reasons. The fact that Democrats across the political spectrum seem thrilled by the pick — with effusive support coming from people ranging from Sen. Joe Manchin (WV) to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY) — seems to validate the theory.

It’s important to be clear: The VP selection matters way less for elections than people think. It’s much more important to select a potential president than an optimal running mate.

But you can see why Harris sees picking Walz as smart politics. It allows her to simultaneously hand the left a win without necessarily tacking left — potentially keeping her coalition united even as she works to win over the general election’s decisive centrists.

I think its important to recognize the value this VP pick can bring, and I’ve not known vox to try to suggest something like that without reason.

Edit: I’m also going to add that your reply is a disingenuous attempt to falsely turn this into a binary unified or not unified condition, not that the article is making such a claim. I entirely reject your statement.

Nougat ,

My statement stands.

fukhueson OP , (edited )

Good talk.

Edit: no follow ups… guess they didn’t read the article past the headline? :)

stonerboner ,

Just wondering how the heck Walz can be considered “not of the left.” Looking at his accomplishments with universal background checks, free school lunch etc it seems he’s accomplished more left leaning goals than 99% of his colleagues

SaucySnake ,

Hasn’t starved enough of his own citizens for the tankies unfortunately

stonerboner ,

Are you suggesting that the tankies are a big enough voting block to qualify Walz as “not of the left?” Big doubt.

SaucySnake ,

I’m suggesting they’re probably the ones screaming the loudest about people not being left enough

kent_eh ,

By global standards, the USA has almost zero politicians that would rate as “left”.

The Overton window has been constantly shoved further to the right for decades.

aleph , (edited )
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Certainly from a mainstream political standpoint he is generally viewed as on the “left”, i.e. a progressive liberal. However, the writer is apparently using the term ‘leftists’ to mean socialists/social democrats.

His stance of Israel is really what will be the clincher for leftists, similar to Harris herself. On the plus side, they are both taking a softer line in terms of how they discuss the genocide in public, but of course neither of them would ever utter the phrase with relation to the Palestinians. There’s also a lot of doubt as to whether either of them will break from Biden’s policy of continuing to send bombs and military hardware to Israel, as both are apparently very much in the “Israel has the right to defend itself” camp.

fukhueson OP ,

The author is making a distinction between progressive and leftist, and this interpretation may vary from reader to reader, considering in many ways the two views share many similarities. I personally have no issue with the classification, calling his accomplishments progressive or leftist makes little difference to me, but it could be viewed differently by others who may have drawn a line between the two labels. Manchin and AOC rallying behind Walz does appear to lend credence to the idea that he could be a unifying force.

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  • TransplantedSconie ,

    Not at all.

    I think they should be all thrown into an island with rudimentary weapons and no clothes to fight it out via a hunger games type atmosphere.

    The winner gets trebucheted into the grand canyon.

    JusticeForPorygon ,
    @JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

    Reverse Hunger Games

    Nougat ,

    Gluttony Games? Wait, that's just what is happening already.

    rustydomino ,
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    I read your comment after the person you were replying to had deleted their comment. So I don’t even know what you’re talking about. But imma upvote you anyway because your comment is still awesome.

    Bocky ,

    Might encourage a few of them to donate a little more. Actually no, they will just create a new business entity and funnel the funds there under another name

    HK65 ,

    I’m all for an annual 100% wealth tax for the richest person in the country.

    Wogi ,

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  • JaymesRS ,

    Dems in array!

    frezik ,

    If you think that’s baffling, take a look at Nate Silver’s column:

    natesilver.net/…/tim-walz-is-a-minnesota-nice-cho…

    I’m not sure if Nate is talking about the same Walz and Shapiro as the rest of us.

    skittle07crusher ,

    Lmao, Silver is equating a Walz pick to a TIM KAINE pick.

    I’m sorry, I can’t read any further with sooo much cope.

    frezik ,

    Yeah, it doesn’t get much better. Silver’s great when it’s just about numbers, but less so when it’s slightly more intangible. This column might be the peak example.

    Nougat ,

    Shapiro has Israel baggage that I am so glad I don't have to hear about online for the next forever. Kelly had a messy divorce that I'm sure nobody wants to have dredged up. Walz seems relatable to a great number of people.

    Plus, he drives a 1979 IH Scout.

    GiddyGap ,

    Shapiro’s Israel issue would have been a toss-up issue. Some independents wanted him to be very pro-Israel, others no so much. Probably wouldn’t have made a huge difference.

    On the other hand, might have made a difference in Michigan among the large muslim minority who may not have come out to vote.

    I really just hope Walz is not going to be another Kaine.

    queermunist ,
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    Democrats aren’t the biggest fans of Israel right now. It’s not independents that matter in his case.

    GiddyGap ,

    Democrats are very divided on Israel but lots are very pro-Israel. Most American Jews vote Democratic.

    Doesn’t mean they agree with Netanyahu’s handling of Gaza, but pro-Israel nonetheless.

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