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Republicans want someone younger than Donald Trump as president: new poll

In a YouGov poll conducted between July 25-29, 59 percent of Republicans surveyed said they would prefer a president under the age of 75. Trump celebrated his 78th birthday in June. Forty percent said they had no preference, and just two percent said they would prefer a president over the age of 75.

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jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t this consistent with when it was Trump/Biden? I seem to remember both sides saying they wanted a younger candidate.

Or it could be they think Trump is younger than he actually is…

Shawdow194 ,
@Shawdow194@kbin.run avatar

This is it

I bet half the respondents didn't realize Trump is over 75yrs

scytale ,

I imagine it’s like those people Jordan Klepper interviews at Trump rallies that go like this:

Jordan: Do you think a candidate who’s almost 80 is too old?

Person: Yeah.

J: …and Trump is 78.

Person: Yeah.

J: So he’s too old and someone younger would be better.

Person: For sure.

J: So who do you want for president?

Person: I’m voting Trump.

Samvega ,

Jordan: Do you think that a sentient pile of goo trained in a laboratory to hate all human life and subject it to fiery nuclear death is a good candidate?

Person: No.

J: Trump is actually a robot inhabited by that goo. Here is clear, simple, factual and verifiable evidence. Here are multiple videos and sources confirming that Trump wants to kill us all.

Person: Yeah.

J: So, Trump is a bad candidate who will murder your children.

Person: Yep.

J: Who are you voting for?

Person: Trump, he’ll go after the alphabet mafia first. And, to be honest, he’s just saying he’ll kill everyone to be edgy and noticeable.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Association_of_German_National…

A reason why some German Jews supported Hitler was that they thought that his anti-Semitism was only for “stirring up the masses”.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’m voting for Shrieking White-Hot Sphere of Pure Rage!

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

According to his nft’s he looks to be in the early 40s, with a body like a greek god.

nft

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The latter wouldn’t shock me, but I don’t remember anything but the majority of Republicans saying they wanted anyone but Trump. I admit I don’t have the world’s best memory, so feel free anyone to show me wrong here.

blattrules ,

They definitely have not looked up how old he is, so I’m going with the latter and they thought this was a dig at Biden.

MushuChupacabra ,
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

Ya good luck extracting Trump from your party. I’ll be like trying to extract botfly larvae from under your scalp.

skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

possible with right tools and the sooner the less damage it causes

frezik ,

It’s not. Trump will not let go. He’s a complete narcissist who is always the best at everything, everyone says so. Even with significant donor backlash–instrumental in forcing out Biden–he won’t give in.

dangrousperson ,

Even though the GOP is full of tools, all of which are extremely right, I still don’t see a chance

Hubi ,
@Hubi@feddit.org avatar

More like a worm from your brain.

RamblingPanda ,

I think he’s more like a tumor, with his rabid allies being metastasized all over the party.

Crazyslinkz ,

Didn’t he go all nepotism on the RNC and put in place family or friends and force out all of “the old guard”?

MushuChupacabra ,
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

Yup. Lol

AlecSadler ,

I’m afraid to look this up

MushuChupacabra ,
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

Your fears are well founded.

Kedly ,

Yeah, dont. I just did and its rough. I mean I guess if you watch pimple popping videos you’ll be fine, but bleeeeggghhhhhh

CoggyMcFee ,

Except more disgusting

worldwidewave ,

Short of a major heart attack, Trump isn’t giving up one iota of power. Really helps to draw a contrast between the parties, where one guy is willing to step down and the other is prepared to crash the plane with us all in it.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

He knows if he isn’t elected, he’s going to prison.

partial_accumen ,

…or Russia.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

True. It wouldn’t shock me if he did the Idi Amin thing.

nondescripthandle ,

A Russian prison would be a fitting setting for him. Hope he outlives his usefulness.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

They wouldn’t throw him in prison even if he could get there. They would put him on one of their propaganda “news” channels and let him go to town. They can subtitle whatever they want for the locals so he can say whatever.

But he’ll never get there. He has a permanent secret service escort that probably isn’t going to be cool with defecting to russia.

aeronmelon ,

Go directly to gulag, do not pass Mar-A-Lago.

TriPolarBearz ,

This is depends if there are still top secret documents there.

pennomi ,

I highly doubt the Feds would allow that.

Sabata11792 ,

A good plan B if he was capable of planning on his own.

ipkpjersi ,

I’m not so sure I agree that he will be held accountable for his actions if he doesn’t win. I think he still narrowly avoids prison even if he doesn’t win, or maybe only spends like 3 days maximum in prison, sadly.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

There’s also the possibility of house arrest. I’ll take that.

tacosanonymous ,

It doesn’t seem like a real consequence. Also, what if he breaks it? Will there be a consequence for that? I don’t see it happening.

brbposting ,

For most people, it would be a horrible punishment to be forced to spend your older years at one of his resorts*… surrounded exclusively by people who are happy to support him financially.

*or maybe “resort”, anybody know if you can stay at any impeached ex-presidential resorts besides mar-AHHHH!!!-lago?

lol:

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/13c3b8d9-3420-4d90-a9ef-f1449bb6c67e.jpeg

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

surrounded exclusively by people who are happy to support him financially.

I think you greatly overestimate who would plan on sticking around if Trump ended up disgraced after the election and under house arrest. He will have completely outlived his usefulness.

brbposting ,

I hope so. Maybe it would just be these four

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KillingTimeItself ,

i think the reason it’s considered a resort is because hes only allowed to stay there for like 30 days at a time, no longer. Since it’s not legally considered to be a “private residence” and that has something to do with it’s tax status i think? Which i think is also due to it’s zoning status.

I believe this is pretty common amongst rich people who own multiple properties.

YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH ,

I really don’t think his Supreme Court is going to allow him to have a custodial sentence. They showed they were fully on the Trump train by finding immunity in the constitution when it plainly reads otherwise.

TurnpikeRangers ,

You may be absolutely correct, but we know for a fact that he won’t be held accountable if he does win.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

He is not a healthy man, Trump will die before he’s held accountable for anything. He’s lived a long life of being a terrible person and the only consequence he’ll face for it is the stress of court cases through his final years and the knowledge that only 40ish% of voters would vote for him again.

ipkpjersi ,

Nah, the miracle of modern medicine with being able to afford the best doctors in the world will keep him for many years to come.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

He’s not going to prison

SuckMyWang ,

Do they send 78 year old people to prison?

Delta_ ,

Funny, Pete went on Fox and said just that!

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

lol she was trying so hard to interrupt him. Cable news is cancerous bs

Delta_ ,

Made it so much more satisfying

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I definitely would not be able to remain as calm as Mr Buttigieg in this exchange.

anoncity ,

Was Biden not stubbornly refusing to step down for so long, until his party forced his hand? I think Democrats wanted someone younger than him in 2020 too. I think we’re giving Biden too much credit here.

Samvega ,

We must remember that Biden is a politician who arguably plagiarised lines of a speech from Kinnock, sinking his '87 campaign.

He’s not some paragon of virtue and perfection.

His greatest achievement is also working with the Republicans. And look at how much respect that got him from that party.

KillingTimeItself ,

dude i think every politican ever has plagiarized a speech. Even fucking trump, although i think it was ivanka? Idk, she stole michelle obamas speech iirc.

Also 87 was literally 35+ years ago.

Samvega ,

Okay, so we can’t judge Biden on reasonable standards, or what he did when he was being a politician in the past. Got it.

frezik ,

You can bet that at least the last week of that was a matter of keeping up appearances. The transition went smoother than it had any right to, and that doesn’t happen without a lot of behind the scenes planning.

brbposting ,

Must’ve been a supervetted group who knew anything if reports are true some close aides were told minutes before the official announcement.

some_guy ,

False. Biden wasn’t willing to step down. He was forced to. Just because he did it doesn’t make him a hero. He deserves to be remembered for refusing to listen to feedback until it was clear he’d be tanked by people like Pelosi, another Dem who won’t give up power unless it’s on her own terms. But we can move on from that mess, thankfully.

teamevil ,

Or he made sure to stand strong strategically (as anyone running would do) and stepped down at a time to maximize effectiveness.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

No, he was planning to run again. His debate performance was the nail in the coffin.

some_guy ,

Giving an incredible amount of credit where there’s no evidence. Our politicians / politics aren’t terribly complicated. There are people who want power and they act accordingly. And there are people who want to do some good. They might be the rare case where they don’t get corrupted (Bernie). And then the rest gradually learn to live within the system and perpetuate it (possibly AOC; can’t tell for sure, but it seems more like it as time passes).

FakeGreekGirl ,

He was forced to, how? Nobody has the power to force him do anything.

He read the writing on the wall and stepped aside. Something Trump would never do.

some_guy ,

I agree Trump would never step aside. I’m just saying Biden was put in a position where the support he needed wasn’t there and they made it clear to him. He still could have run, but he was made to understand that he’d lose because he wouldn’t have the backers he needed. Look at the cash KH is raking in. The right people let him know they wanted her / anyone else instead.

Evilcoleslaw , (edited )

He was pressured to step down and then was ultimately willing to listen and do so. There was no method to force him to step down – he had more than enough delegates locked in to win the nomination if he wanted to keep going.

KillingTimeItself ,

i mean, he rightly, i think did what was expected. The incumbency advantage over someone like trump, especially with having pushed SO much productive legislation is a really safe bet, was it safe enough to win? Maybe?

I don’t think people were expecting everyone to be super excited over kamala, until she showed up and started kicking ass.

up until that one debate, he was doing pretty ok. Not great, but not terrible enough to warrant completely removing him, which was why the DNC waited to nominate.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

one guy is willing to step down

81 year old man dogpilled by his party during a possibly fatal respiratory illness.

Don’t give Biden too much credit here.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Willing to step down is giving him too much credit. He was pushed out because Dems know he’ll lose. The parties are the same. It’s just business. They don’t love or care about you.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

They couldn’t force him. They convinced him it was the right thing to do.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah like how convince people to resign after doing something terrible. It wasn’t Biden’s idea. You didn’t hear all the stuff he was saying after the debate? Come on

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s almost like he had the self awareness to change his mind when presented with compelling, new information.

It’s what mature adults do

If you think the only way any adult can change their mind is if they’re forced to, it speaks more of you than them.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

The new and compelling information was that they wanted his ass out.

Damn. You Biden’s #1 fan. And think so highly of politicians. It’s business. People don’t want to lose money and power. Biden isn’t immune to this.

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes it was. Gold star for you.

I must be his #1 fan because reasons.

Have an ice cream cone or something man. It’ll help that attitude.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Biden still stepped down, Trump never will. These are not the same picture.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

They don’t want him to. Not the same indeed.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

59% of Republicans want someone younger than Trump as president.

Republicans also don’t want Trump to step down.

At least they’re consistent in not knowing what they want.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

That’s one from one survey. And even so, that doesn’t mean that’s gonna sway them away from not voting for the guy. They’d still vote. People wouldn’t vote for Biden so Dems had to change. That’s a big difference.

neidu2 ,

"Yes, because our guy is TOUGH who sees things THROUGH!"

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PugJesus ,

“So, Nicki Haley?”

[suddenly all the Trumpets cast their vote for an over-75 primary presidential candidate]

It’s just empty hand-wringing.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a good sign. They think Harris can win.

solrize ,

Vance of course.

card797 ,

I’ma never Trump guy… lol

That song is stuck in my head.

anoncity ,

Tulsi Gabbard would have my vote

Caboose12000 ,

As a band kid, I respectfully request that you do not use my musical instrument of choice to refur to racist conservatives who want to end democracy.

Thank you for your understanding

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