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xmunk ,

Yea so… making fun of someone’s name is sophomoric. I’m sure some Trump folks love it but actual adults really don’t give a shit. I was even kind of annoyed years back when people were attacking Trump because of the Drumpf surname - as if half of America didn’t have their name butchered by Ellis Island.

The asshole doesn’t have any actual criticisms that will stick so he’s resorting to school yard bullying.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Not just sophomoric, as the article points out. Plain old bigoted.

“It’s one thing to mispronounce someone’s name on the first try, right? But to do it repeatedly and deliberately, it feels purposeful. It’s certainly done to make a point. It is othering, a way of saying you don’t belong here,” said Jean Sinzdak, the associate director of the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University.

“I would describe it as a racist and sexist attack on her because she’s been the vice president for three and a half years,” Sinzdak said. “It’s not hard to say her name. It’s not complicated.”

finley ,

It’s a lot simpler than that for psychopaths like Trump: it’s a simple cut that’s dehumanizing. It’s an easy way to say, “You mean nothing to me, and I know this hurts you, so I will keep on hurting you as much as possible whenever I can because I can, and that gratifies me.”

It’s one of the most effective trolling behaviors there is, because, no matter how big a person you are, it will always cut a little. And it is also one of the most obvious signs that someone is a psychopath. Because they hurt someone just because they can.

You see it all the time from trolls on the Internet.

zigmus64 ,

I have a very common American name, but with a very European spelling. I’m 41 fucking years old. It gets under my skin at least a little bit when I see it misspelled, regardless of how understandable it is…

Zahille7 ,

Is it something with like an “ou” instead of just “o”?

misterdoctor ,

His name is Michael but it’s spelled Mouchel

P1nkman ,

I once met an American whose name was pronounced “Keevan”. His written name was Kevin…

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

American Football player Brett Favre pronounces his last name “farv” and I wish I knew why.

kautau ,

actual adults don’t really give a shit

From my experience most of Trump’s camp act like middle schoolers, so you’d be right

Mk23simp ,

This is just a dog-whistle for racism, right? Barely even a dog-whistle. Making fun of a name because it’s not european is pretty blatantly racist.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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That’s exactly what it is. It’s saying, “white men like me know how to really pronounce your name and you don’t.”

ImADifferentBird ,
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I’ll admit to mispronouncing her name on occasion myself, but mostly because I associate it with two other figures who did/do pronounce it Ka-MAH-luh. I have to make an effort to get it right for her. But I am making that effort. And I have little doubt that these assholes are not.

I’m kind of afraid that I’ll mispronounce it in mixed company and make someone who doesn’t know me well think I’m one of those weird Republicans or something.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I have a friend I’ve had since high school with that name and with that spelling who pronounced it a different way (closer to ‘camera’), so I go there for a second sometimes without realizing it, but correct myself quickly enough.

cmbabul ,

An honest mistake is an honest mistake you can always tell the difference

leadore ,
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I actually said it wrong in that way the other day even though I usually get it right without having to think about it too much. It happens. Once we start hearing it all the time it’ll be easy, but in the meantime it may help to think of it as being “Kamla” which comes out sounding just the same.

Zachariah ,
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Seems like a regular whistle at this point.

thefartographer ,

Hey, have hoards of people tried going to Trump rallies just to blow rape whistles every time he talks?

You know, cuz he’s a rapist.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s brilliant.

whereisk ,

You’re right of course it’s racism, he knows his audience. But his schoolyard bully tactics always make fun of the unfamiliar, perhaps you mean Anglo sounding?

Because I’m pretty sure he would make fun of his own family name (Drumpf) if it belonged to an opponent. And I can’t imagine it would be any better if they were named Nieminen (Finish) or Svobodova (Czech) or Nikolakopoulos (Greek) etc. Same with first names.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I guess “Hillary Clinton” and “Joe Biden” are hard to mispronounce without making it sound even more obvious than he likes to be, so he took the opportunity.

Subverb ,

When Obama was running the right made a big point out of calling him Barack Hussein Obama.

dragontamer ,

I’m so fucking confused. Trump usually has good insults that actually stick. But literally nothing is sticking. All of Trump’s insults vs Kamala though are so lame.

I’m pretty happy about this though. Trump workshopping insults and shot gunning his incompetence and inability to actually pull Kamala down is great for everyone.

“Lying Ted Cruz” worked fine. Except “Lying Kamala” is obviously just recycling an old insult and speaks more to Trump’s limited vocabulary rather than something good. Etc. etc. etc. I’m sure Trump will eventually find something and run with it, but… crazy to see him fail at workshopping a response when he’s literally had years to prepare an obvious insult for Kamala.

Making fun of name pronunciation makes it sound like Trump is a 78 year old who can’t learn how to say a name. This is NOT the path Trump wants to go. Kamala isn’t even an exotic or difficult to say name.

ImADifferentBird ,
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I’m honestly surprised he has so little. I mean, not to give that piece of shit ideas, but “Commie Kamala” is right there. Even “Crooked Kamala” would work better than what he’s tried.

I saw a clip of him where he called her “Laffin’ Kamala” and then stopped to specify that he was spelling it L-A-F-F-I-N-apostrophe. It’s hard to remember last time I felt so much cringe.

dragontamer ,

As much as everyone was making fun of Bidens loss of function (which… Biden always tripped up over words. He always was a bad speaker)… Trumps wit has visibly declined over the recent years.

It’s possible that Trump just can’t come up with a reasonable insult due to his advanced age. IMO, Trumps signs of aging are worse than even Bidens.

Crooked was Hilary Clintons nickname. So same problem as Lying: it is proof of Trumps small vocabulary if he recycles an insult.

audiomodder ,

To be fair, he thought he was spelling it correctly.

rtxn ,

Unfortunately the (lack of) cleverness matters little when his zealots/cultists started wearing adult diapers in public because “real men wear diapers” or something.

Boozilla ,
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Typical elementary schoolyard bully boy shit by Drumpf. Sadly his cult loves that type of low-hanging rotten fruit.

YurkshireLad ,

The guy whose surname is a synonym for “fart”…

magnetosphere ,
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All he’s doing is showing everyone how petty, spiteful, and bigoted he is - which is unintentionally honest of him.

WatDabney ,

All the way through this ordeal of Biden possibly, then actually, stepping down, I’ve been sort of lukewarm about the idea of Harris replacing him for one and only one reason - because I assumed that, since she’s the VP and the obvious first choice for a replacement, the Trump campaign would already have a complete hate campaign against her primed and ready to go, so could potentially catch her and the Dems flat-footed.

It’s astonishing how wrong I was.

stoly ,

They have been making it up as they go since 2015. There’s no real plan other than win.

leadore ,
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Which is why the Heritage Foundation made sure to spell out a 900-page plan this time.

NineMileTower ,

Honestly, I think it’s because they underestimate black people and women. They would never have thought democrats would run a black woman, because they wouldn’t.

And it’s not like Sleepy Joe was a brilliant name either, it just stuck for the flag buying morons.

JeeBaiChow ,

The republican presidential nominee, ladies and gentlemen! Hope they are proud of this idiot.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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The sad part is, they are.

dogsnest ,
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

When asked why, the Trump campaign, in a statement to ABC News, said “race and gender have nothing to do with why Kamala Harris is the most unpopular Vice President in history.”

Citation, motherfuckers?

Wilzax ,

You kind of need to start assuming that anything coming out of his mouth is a lie. They are right less than 50% of the time.

Apytele ,

…I’m on her side and I actually had no idea it was supposed to be pronounced that way. I’ve pretty much only interacted with her name textually; I guess I just don’t keep up with political media enough. I’ve also got an uncommon name that people rarely pronounce correctly the first time but also I’m white so I’ve never had anyone be anything but apologetic about it.

NineMileTower ,

Comma Luh not Kuh Mah Lah

Peppycito ,

I guess I’ve also been saying it wrong, having read it much more than I’ve heard it. I honestly haven’t been paying much attention.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Yeah but trump has a media team and she is the republicans opponent. They would or should know the correct pronunciation.

modifier ,

,la

NoSpotOfGround ,

Her name is a nod to her Indian heritage on her mother’s side and in her 2019 memoir, Harris wrote that she pronounced it “Comma-la” and that it means “lotus flower.” […] Still, Trump continues to say “Kah-MAH-la.”

I was sure this was going to be the other way around. Strange and less bad than I expected. It’s mostly just an accent thing, not a change in sounds.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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But, unlike you, Trump has heard it many times. He knows how to pronounce it properly, he just won’t because he’s a racist.

Protoknuckles ,

I want her to treat this as if he is doing it on accident, and correct him like he is a little child. Really humiliate him.

Tower ,

Yup. Then, when he’s still mispronouncing it, pivot to him not being able to remember how to pronounce it correctly being another sign of his mental faculties failing.

Protoknuckles ,

Exactly. “Oh sweetie, are you having trouble remembering?”

ByteOnBikes ,

We bullied a boomer who kept doing that at work.

Old fart kept mispronouncing staff member’s names thinking it was funny and workplace suddenly went passive aggressive on him.

wildncrazyguy138 ,

Kamala Kamala Kamala Kamala
For president
She’s got my vote
She’s got my voooooote!

peopleproblems ,

I don’t get it. I mean shit, probably I pronounce it wrong, but then so does every other Minnesotan.

Why are they trying to be dumber than they are? That makes it like less weaponized stupidity and more… The stupidity that gets you in detention?

eran_morad ,

I think she’s gonna wreck the traitor bitch.

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Tfw you don’t get what’s so confusing about pronounciation of कमला. It’s so simple.

lobut ,

Can someone explain what this statement is supposed to be?

xycu ,

कमल is the word kamala written in Sanskrit.

lobut ,

Alright, I know you’re not OP but is the person implying that Kamala is difficult because it has Sanskrit origins?

TheBat ,
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No, I’m saying it’s pretty simple. Those are just basic letters.

Compare that to Donald’s name in devanagari script: डोनाल्ड

Edit: And also devanagari (along with most Indian script) is phonetic. What you say is what you write. There’s no confusion about pronunciation of letters no matter which word they’re in.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I’d say the problem begins with the fact that almost no one in the U.S. reads Sanskrit.

TheBat ,
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Don’t worry, Kamala is going to fix that. Soon English will be outlawed. (At least that’s what Faux News thinks, right?)

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