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Joe Biden reportedly more open to calls for him to step aside as candidate

Joe Biden has reportedly become more open in recent days to hearing arguments that he should step aside as the Democratic presidential candidate after the party’s two main congressional leaders told him they doubted his ability to beat Donald Trump.

While continuing to insist he will be the party’s nominee in November, the president has reportedly started asking questions about negative polling data and whether Vice-President Kamala Harris, considered the favourite to replace him if were to withdraw, fares better.

The indications of a possible rethink come after Biden tested positive on Wednesday for Covid-19, forcing him to isolate for several days while curtailing a campaigning visit to Nevada that had been part of a drive to show his candidacy was very much alive.

It also coincides with fresh polling data showing that he now trails Trump by two points in Virginia, a state he won by 10 points in 2020.

aseriesoftubes ,

I’m holding out hope for Newsom. The unfortunate truth is that too many Americans are racist and/or sexist, and the combination of those factors could sink Harris (who, it should be said, I would happily vote for).

There are a lot of people out there who are desperate to vote for someone who isn’t Biden or Trump. The buzz and excitement generated by an entirely new ticket (Newsom-Whitmer?) would blow Trump out of the water.

VanillaBean ,

OK so who takes the torch this late in the game though? Kamala? Has to be Kamala, right?

JimmyBigSausage ,

Kamala Harris - Mark Kelly ‘24

andyburke ,
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Open the convention.

All the news coverage about who the democratic nominee will be has been and will sap the life blood of Trump's campaign: coverage.

When they aren't paying attention to him, he becomes ever more unhinged and his mask slips even more.

Chaos in the democratic party can work for us for once.

JimmyBigSausage ,

Harris/Kelly

Quill7513 ,

If we can come up with a cohesive plan that works, great. I just don’t understand why the democrat leadership didn’t even try having this conversation before the primaries. Being the president is a bummer. You have to be a truly sad person to even want the position. I’m not stunned at all to hear Biden would feel cooperative with a movement that let’s him just kick back in a rocking chair and enjoy the time he has left.

PugJesus ,

I just don’t understand why the democrat leadership didn’t even try having this conversation before the primaries.

They may have tried in private, but “The incumbent has an advantage, and we need every advantage we can get” is compelling conventional political wisdom.

TheReturnOfPEB ,

Biden has spent nearly his entire life in service to this country.

We owe Biden a break.

andyburke ,
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Yes, he should retire and enjoy his twilight without the stress of the presidency.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
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If Harris was super serious about beating Trump, she couldn’t pick an easier race than a run with Bernie Sanders. Imagine how energized the left would be. Ahh.

…In other shit that will never happen news, Trump enjoyed a joke at his own expense at a salad bar.

SayJess ,
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…In other shit that will never happen news, Trump enjoyed a joke at his own expense at a salad bar.

That was fucking great

PugJesus ,

He needs to step down. There’s no other way forward at the moment that improves our chances that I can see.

Omegamanthethird ,
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He should have already taken Trump up on his offer for a second debate the next week. He might be able to turn it around, but it would require things he has so far shown he isn’t willing to do.

And if he’s even considering stepping down, it’s already too late. He should do it now. I don’t know if there’s another path forward, but it’s not with him on the campaign trail.

Pronell ,

I do wonder how a Kamala Harris / AOC ticket would go.

Probably not well given how racist and misogynistic this country is. But it would energize many people.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
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Not quite old enough I think? I checked and I think she turns 35 this year. Not sure how the particular rules apply.

nondescripthandle ,

She will be 35 before inauguration so shes eligible to be president which is the req for VP.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
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I think that’d make her the youngest ever. Added bonus to being the first all-female White House, I’m in.

Pronell ,

She would turn 35 before taking office.

nondescripthandle ,

Few things would energize me more. Biden would have gotten a begrudging vote from me at most. If youre going to slot AOC into the VP pick, I will estatically take 4 years of Kamala. To me there are few if any better investments in the political health of the country than VP AOC.

eldavi ,

Few things would energize me more. Biden would have gotten a begrudging vote from me at most.

same here except vacillate daily on voting for biden due to his history and its impact on my life.

a candidate that doesn’t have a 4 decade long history of anti-gay, anti-feminist, pro-segregationists, pro-corporate, anti-student policies, actions and votes would easily convince me to vote democrat.

jws_shadotak ,

I think that would be too far left and you’d lose centrist votes

nondescripthandle ,

Vote blue no matter who? Or was that phrase just a cudgle against progressives?

PugJesus ,

You do realize there’s more to the electorate than just dedicated Dem voters, right?

Just because we’ll be telling people to “vote Blue no matter who” doesn’t mean they’ll necessarily do it.

SkybreakerEngineer ,

You mean the “unions are communist propaganda but I like to call myself independent” crowd?

PugJesus ,

In part. There are even more bizarre types. I know strong union supporters who vote Republican, but have positive opinions on Bernie. I know liberal voters who voted Trump in 2016 to ‘shake things up’ (I am not very close with them, for obvious reasons). Many people in this country do not have a coherent ideology they vote by, and are swayed by many small factors.

NOT_RICK ,
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You can want a very Progressive candidate and acknowledge that you need to win the middle of the electorate in first past the post voting systems at the same time

Omegamanthethird ,
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It’s a lot harder to shame centrists into doing the right thing.

Progressives have to stomach what they know is best for the country, even though they don’t think it’s good enough.

Centrists by definition aren’t committed to what’s best for the country.

Pronell ,

Possibly, but would those centrists flee to Trump? He’s already got the racist vote.

VanillaBean ,

Bingo. AOC is a no-go for way too many.

dhork ,

AOC has time. If I were writing the script, I would go with Harris/Whitmer, followed by Whitmer/AOC. Assuming each ticket wins two terms, AOC would be in her 50’s then and be one of the most qualified candidates in 2040.

Can you imagine three Female Presidents in a row?

foggy ,

Kamala and Bernie

Let Bernie in the oval office. Nobody deserves it more than him. He’s too old for pres, but God damn would he get shit done between inauguration as vp and his grave…

Pronell ,

I’d be perfectly happy with that. I’ve even got a cat named Bernie Sanders.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/39a3ec3f-c14d-4861-96c4-5edba6979e82.jpeg

crusa187 ,

I would vote for that ticket in a heartbeat.

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