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Lawyers for megachurch pastor blame 12-year-old for ‘initiating’ sexual contact

Lawyers for Donald Trump’s former faith advisor Robert Morris accused a 12-year-old girl of initiating “inappropriate” sexual conduct with the ex-Dallas megachurch pastor, new documents have revealed.

Morris resigned in June after admitting to the incident. His accuser Cindy Clemishire previously claimed that the pastor had begun abusing her on Christmas Day in 1982.

Clemishire, now 52, said that Morris and his wife had been staying at her family home at the time when he asked her to come into his room, whereafter he told her to lay on his bed and then began touching her inappropriately.

She said the abuse had continued until 1987 when she told her parents.

However, 25 years after the incident, a lawyer for Morris – J Shelby Sharpe – claimed that it was the child who was actually to blame.

jaemo ,

My word, but Christians are truly among the very worst examples of humanity. No wonder churchgoing is plummeting, even the lack of civility in modern society can’t pave over the abject awfulness of this cult.

Back to the stone age, where you belong, sky wizard cultists!

fukurthumz420 ,

keep it going until all the abrahamic religions are considered a cult by most of the sane world.

assassin_aragorn ,

This is the best the lawyers could come up with? He very clearly scraped the bottom of the barrel when looking for legal representation

Snapz ,

So just “megachurch pastor” headline? No other descriptors you’d like to add?

DmMacniel ,
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Objective Morality everyone!

FlyingSquid ,
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Even Nabokov didn’t say Lolita made Humbert Humbert do it.

Mostly_Gristle ,

Well… He did make the character Humbert Humbert say it, though.

“Frigid gentlewomen of the jury! I had thought that months, perhaps years, would elapse before I dared to reveal myself to Dolores haze; but by six she was wide awake, and by six fifteen we were technically lovers. I am going to tell you something very strange: it was she who seduced me.”

FlyingSquid ,
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Yeah, but he made Humbert say it to show what a despicable person he was.

Riven ,
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God reminds me of a Manga i had to stop reading. Bunch of bad ass women and a loser isekai main character. For some reason all the women were hell bent on being his ‘slaves’ for lack of a better word. They kept making these speeches about how they were inferior and their duty was to the man and all these obscene backwards ideas. I Google the author and sure enough dude is an alt right dbag. He only ever made the women characters say these deamening things like if that made it better or gave them some sort of credibility.

lone_faerie ,

There’s a reason molestation insurance for churches is such a big industry

FrowingFostek ,

The idea hadn’t even crossed my mind that this was a real thing. I had to search it up because, my brain couldn’t compute. Boom, 5 links talking about “SAMs”.

RIPandTERROR ,
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There’s no way…

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These companies offer tailored policies that address the unique risks faced by religious organizations, providing financial protection and support in the event of allegations of sexual misconduct. It’s important for churches to work with an experienced insurance broker or agent to ensure they have the appropriate coverage in place.

What in the unholy fuck.

Freefall ,

I’m sorry…fucking WHAT‽

RIPandTERROR ,
@RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve spent a lot of today thinking about this.

How do you stay in any system that relies on this type of insurance to operate?

I could never be a part of a church doing this, Even if I was religious.

Do people just not know? Would it matter?

How is this a thing???

assassin_aragorn ,

What the actual fuck

How do any of these people live with themselves?

andros_rex ,

Boy Scouts had this problem and implemented the “Rule of 2” - never leave a single adult alone with an unrelated kid, need to have at least two. But nope, let’s stick the twenty something youth pastor in a room alone with teenage girls… guess the insurance payout is if the parents don’t force the girl to marry the rapist…

assassin_aragorn ,

An old coworker of mine at an old job was involved in Scouts as a den leader or whatever it’s called, and he was telling us about the Rule of 2. The organization apparently took it really fucking seriously when there was a child sexual abuse case with a den leader. Rule of 2, mandatory training on recognizing and reporting abuse. They basically went full Title 9.

On a lighter note, this was also around the time Boy Scouts rebranded into Scouts and started letting girls join. My coworker said the one girl in his group excelled over everyone else and was quite skilled at everything. The organization made a great decision in making the group coed.

Norgur ,
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I refuse to read anything after the headline to keep my blood below boiling point. Did I miss anything?

HomerianSymphony , (edited )

If anything, it gets worse.

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

Oh by Zeus,.may the gods have mercy for I have none.

fukurthumz420 ,

religion strikes again. it’s almost like the world would be a better place without it.

before you come with the ‘shitty people can be anywhere’, ask yourself would this person have been emboldened to act on their sociopathic desires without having religion to hide behind?

Lenny ,

“That bank money was begging me to take it, your honor. Sittin’ there, with those tight little bands on; it was askin’ for it!”

Biggles , (edited )

Or, hear me out, the man is a hypocrite who preaches morality but has no problem using a preteen girl to gratify his sexual desires.

Dudewitbow ,

the fact they didnt claim he was raped means he was likely awake therefore cannot claim any innocence from the situation.

basically the only way out of a situation like this is provably without reasonable doubt, that you were raped in a state where you werent conscious. and since they didnt argue it means you cannot justify it.

n3m37h ,

Shows you the everyone in Trumps circle are all terrible. Shit attracts flies

ToucheGoodSir ,

Reminds me of that story of a father that murdered his daughters rapist in a small town and the whole town was like “I DIDN’T SEE NUFFIN” and I believe the father did not end up going to prison for it. Is a BIG, fuck around find out situation for pieces of human garbage like this. Don’t think these boomer pedos/other idiots realize what quantum computing and all of the data centers across the world storing citizens data for decades means for THEM… Just requires some inspired algorithms and a police force that is willing to uh, NOT protect the baddies and do their jobs as detectives vs arresting brown people for drugz :|

assassin_aragorn ,

A conviction requires a jury of your peers to deem you guilty – if your peers don’t think you’ve broken the law by killing a child rapist, then you aren’t guilty.

a_wild_mimic_appears ,

Damn, that 12 year old girl must’ve been a commie too, raised on those russian cold war era steroids!

Veedem ,
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That might be one of the most demented defenses they could have come up with.

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