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7 in 10 Americans think Supreme Court justices put ideology over impartiality: AP-NORC poll

A solid majority of Americans say Supreme Court justices are more likely to be guided by their own ideology rather than serving as neutral arbiters of government authority, a new poll finds, as the high court is poised to rule on major cases involving former President Donald Trump and other divisive issues.

The survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that 7 in 10 Americans think the high court’s justices are more influenced by ideology, while only about 3 in 10 U.S. adults think the justices are more likely to provide an independent check on other branches of government by being fair and impartial.

The poll reflects the continued erosion of confidence in the Supreme Court, which enjoyed broader trust as recently as a decade ago. It underscores the challenge faced by the nine justices — six appointed by Republican presidents and three by Democrats — of being seen as something other than just another element of Washington’s hyper-partisanship.

hOrni ,

But how many of them think that’s a bad thing?

DirkMcCallahan ,

3/10 Americans are complete idiots.

Skydancer ,

Which is honestly a better ratio than I would have expected.

carl_dungeon ,

The other three are bootlicking republicans

djsoren19 ,

Unironically, yeah according to the data.

FireTower ,
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For anyone interested in the changes in the Court here’s a video of two of the former justices explaining the different perspectives between living constitutionalism and originalism. Right now there’s a shift from one to the other. Just like there was a shift around the 50s.

youtu.be/jmv5Tz7w5pk

FlyingSquid ,
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That seems low.

muse ,
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The other 3 agree, but silently are agreeing with it

FlyingSquid ,
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I don’t know. This is America. I’d say at least 1 out of 10 says, “the supreme what now?”

billiam0202 ,

4 in 10 Americans say SCOTUS makes decisions based on ideology instead of the law, but they’re cool with that because it’s their ideology too.

FireTower ,
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Most Americans are keyed in on the intricacies of the Court. You can find a few polls showing this like this one where 1/10 of college graduates think Judge Judy has a chair at SCOTUS.

www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/politics/…/index.html

The poll used her real name, Judith Sheindlin, but still not a good look.

Catoblepas ,

Using her real name and then reporting the results as “they thought Judge Judy was a SCOTUS justice” seems disingenuous. It’s not like the option that they chose said “Judge Judy”. I wouldn’t even have known that Judith Sheindlin is her real name and not just a generic old lady name.

I would wager the majority of American college grads can’t name all 9 SCOTUS justices (or even all 4 women), and if you’re just guessing then any choice that isn’t obviously wrong (like “Judge Judy”) has around the same chance of being chosen as any other not obviously wrong option.

TransplantedSconie ,

^^^what’s ^^^a ^^^battle?

hperrin ,

Happy cake day, FlyingSquid.

FlyingSquid ,
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Thanks!

jballs ,
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It’s because Republicans are skewing the numbers. 84% of Democrats and 73% of Independents understand the Supreme Court is a joke.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/9098742d-7ba6-4697-b9cd-6b7a0b8073fc.png

jjjalljs ,

I bet a chunk of those republicans are mad that the court is “too liberal”

Republicans are the worst

Iheartcheese ,
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9/9 supreme court justices think you are a worthless little bitch and you can’t do shit to stop them.

TransplantedSconie ,

Took just 29 mins for a

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Iheartcheese ,
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Nobody is trying to say both sides are the same. I am saying the supreme court is not working for us and they know they can get away with it.

Crazyslinkz ,

You said all 9 justices thoughts are the same on citizens. I feel this isn’t true compared to how they vote, but maybe you have inside information.

TransplantedSconie ,

Saying 9/9 justices don’t give a shit is disingenuous to say the least. In case you forgot 6 >3, here’s a refresher course on something you should have learned in 1st grade math.

alcoholicorn ,

That’s not at all what they’re saying, IHeartCheese is saying you, the citizen, don’t have power over the SCOTUS.

But you’d be right as in both sides are ideological, how else do you think they decide which interpretation to use if not by ideology?

Or are you one of those libs who doesn’t think they have ideology?

flying_gel ,

This comment really feels like “I’m making all my decisions based on ideology therefore everyone does”

alcoholicorn ,

Do you just do things entirely at random with no input from your understanding of the world?

No? Then congrats, you’ve got ideology. I’m gonna assume it’s liberalism, since they’re typically the only ones both dumb and arrogant enough to think they’re not only non-political, but non-ideological.

flying_gel ,

I am definitely saying the liberals are more likely to be impartial.

liberals tend to favour fairness of outcome, not the conservative fairness of opportunity. Hence they are better able to better put themselves in other people’s shoes and go against their core beliefs (ideology) if that means a failed outcome for other people.

alcoholicorn ,

liberals tend to favour fairness of outcome

You’re confusing liberals and socialists. Here’s Liberalism: A counter-history, which examines the history and evolution of liberalism. It contextualizes both the historical promotion of political rights and seeming contradictions like their removal under liberalism.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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It’s a big club but you ain’t in it

Ranvier ,

Is bribery and corruption an ideology?

Theprogressivist ,
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Yes. It’s called Cronyism.

Ranvier , (edited )

Then put me in with the 7 out of 10 Americans.

dactylotheca ,
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It’s called Cronyism.

Funny way to spell “conservatism”

cmoney ,

Have you seen the interest rates on motorhomes nowadays?

snekerpimp ,

Ideology of “I get mine, you get shit”. Ideology of “I get what I want because I’m on this bench”. Ideology of “what can you do for me?”.

Illegitimate court. Every single ruling by them should be overturned and every citizen should ignore them.

stembolts ,

7/10 Americans are aware / woke.

The owners, “Stop being aware, go back to being a cog in the machine. Stop reading the founders intent that we can overthrow them. That’s against the law and the law is what we will use to enforce our ideologies upon you.”

The “war against woke” is a war against awareness.

clearedtoland ,

I would say it’s a war against knowledge and critical thinking. Those two things threaten their control and reasoning. Why else fear books or competing ideologies?

It’s one thing for the deer to see headlights coming at it. It’s another for it to know what it means and what it should do.

KnightontheSun ,

I think that is what stembolts is saying. Awareness is borne from knowledge and critical thinking.

gatorgato ,

It’s deeper than that for some. You could allegorically describe that awareness as the fruit of the tree of goodness and evil. Temptation from Satan and they will burn in hell if they accept it.

bamfic ,

Too bad the system is designed by the founders so that 70% of the people are guaranteed in perpetuity to always have less than 50% of the power, and thus never get what they want.

This was done to keep slavery in place.

SeaJ , (edited )

There needs to be some sort of great awakening or something…

/s

RememberTheApollo_ ,

I don’t know that this is the case. It’s roughly like 33% of the people say the judges are too liberal because they’re liberal, another 33% say the judges are to conservatives because they’re conservatives, and another 33% don’t have a clue. That ~66% of conservative + liberal aggregated are the 7/10. I wouldn’t call it woke, I would call it opposing opinions on what side the judges are one and the perspective of the respondent.

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