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Biden Demands Immediate Gaza Cease-Fire in Call With Israel’s Netanyahu

He also called on Israel to take immediate steps “to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering, and the safety of aid workers” and “made clear that U.S. policy with respect to Gaza will be determined by our assessment of Israel’s immediate action on these steps,” according to the White House statement.

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Linkerbaan ,
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One day later and we can conclude that there is no ceasefire and this was a PR stunt from Biden.

Aceticon ,

He’s still trying to get away with just talkie-talkie (with a wink and a nod) to save his presidency in the upcoming election.

Anybody who is not a commited tribalist and has even the slightest wiff of skepticism is by now, having seen all that Biden has said and done in the last 3 months, well beyond believing mere words from this US Administration: only actual actions (not promises of actions, actually doing it) will even just begin to offset the months of actions in the very opposite direction (including the recent sending of 2000lb bombs to Israel, since those are well known for causing massive civilian casualties when used).

Sanctions on Israel would be a good start.

crusa187 ,

Strong words are nice, would have been better 6 months ago.

At this point, it’s time to stop sending them more bombs at a minimum. Biden gets on the phone and says this bullshit, then turns around and circumvents Congress to sends billions in bombs anyway. Bibi responds by going in Israeli news media and just dunks on him for being Israel’s lil removed, it’s pathetic.

At a certain point, and maybe we’ve already surpassed this - Biden will lose voters to Trump because Biden’s “Israel First” policy doesn’t sound as good as Trump’s “America First”

BigMacHole ,

And if they DON’T then they’ll only get a couple HUNDRED world ending Bombs instead of a couple THOUSAND!

Kbobabob ,

World ending?

Are they sending nukes?

I_Has_A_Hat ,

No

EatATaco ,

Remember, this isn’t about being rational, it’s about undercutting support for Biden.

juicy ,

Shame on them for getting emotional about genocide, amirite?

EatATaco ,

Yeah, seriously, they should think with their emotions instead of their heads. It’s exactly why Trump supporters are right about the election being stolen, because it feels like it was to them!

magnetosphere ,
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Upon reading this headline, my initial question was “or what?”

Biden has previously signaled that he wouldn’t halt arms shipments to Israel and has said U.S. support for the country in its defense against Hamas is unflinching.

This week, the Biden administration authorized the transfer to Israel of over 1,000 500-pound bombs and over 1,000 small-diameter bombs, U.S. officials said.

Oh.

athos77 ,

NPR noted that even if the US stopped all shipments right now, Israel has enough weapons and munitions to continue on their own for several months.

magnetosphere ,
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It would still be a clear, powerful message.

RvTV95XBeo ,

So… Why are we sending them weapons?

magnetosphere ,
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From a political/military perspective, they are by far our most reliable ally in the region. The government wants to keep them happy. If we don’t, someone else will.

AWistfulNihilist ,

Damn… yo they should let someone else then!

mihies ,

So, genocide is fine as long as it ours and we must keep them happy doing it.

magnetosphere ,
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That’s what some people seem to think. I was only explaining the rationale; I don’t agree with it.

smnwcj ,

How useful is Israeli as an ally really? They threaten huge costly wars constantly, destabilize the region, and export right wingism. They're at best an R&D project of the department of defense.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

Because many of the sales were agreed to before the war started and it takes congressional approval to change or cancel the deal. Our Congress is a mess right now and couldn’t pass a resolution that water is wet.

juicy ,

Stop lying to support a genocide

ArbitraryValue ,

I don’t think the title is accurate. I don’t have access to the full text of the WSJ article, but according to the Guardian

He underscored that an immediate ceasefire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and protect innocent civilians, and he urged the prime minister to empower his negotiators to conclude a deal without delay to bring the hostages home.

Unless I’m missing something, Biden is not demanding a unilateral Israeli cease-fire. The cease-fire is still conditional on the release of the hostages.

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TIMMAY ,

“you better stop using all of those guns and bombs I sold you, or else! Also the high-end fighter jets should be arriving this week, ttyl”

FiniteBanjo ,

I know you were joking, and it’s still bad, but the jets order is for 5 years from now. Which is longer than sometime this week.

Linkerbaan ,
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Has anyone told Biden that israel is actively violating a binding UN ceasefire resolution?

acockworkorange ,

Haven’t you heard? He threatened them with even harsher threats if they don’t comply this time.

aberrate_junior_beatnik ,

I heard he might also get oven more outraged.

acockworkorange ,

Flummoxed, even.

RedditWanderer ,

I hear tabloids might be able to use “stern” if they don’t stop immediately.

They added it to the meeting notes right after selling the jets.

affiliate ,

theyre getting dangerously close to seeing him slam his fist on a table

Aceticon ,

There was some serious finger wagging this time around and the finger will be wagged in an even more serious manner if they don’t comply.

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

While still providing them with weapons the other day.

acockworkorange ,

That’s the point of my comment.

Aceticon ,

Several times 2000lb worth of hyprocrisy.

Furedadmins ,

Lol at the UN being binding

Linkerbaan ,
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All UNSC resolutions are binding.

Though israel has ignored like 160 other UN resolutions (not all security council) so international law doesn’t mean much since nobody enforces it.

randon31415 ,

No, that particular resolution was for a ceasefire during Ramadan, which is now over. Of course, there other UN resolutions it is violating, and it had violated that one, but to be fair it isn’t currently violating it.

SpaceNoodle ,

I thought there were a few days left.

boyi ,

yeah, should still be binding until early nextly week, around Tuesday.

bingbong ,

There are

randon31415 ,

I thought Biden just had a bunch of people over at the whitehouse for Eid, and some of them stormed out in protest. I thought Eid was the end of Ramadan?

Edit: Here it is. Ah, I thought the iftar meal was the one on Eid, not just a normal sun-down meal.

alcoholicorn ,

Maybe Biden can write poems and sing songs about how much he wants to genocide to stop.

Words are irrelevant while he continues to send them the tools they use to carry out the genocide.

Marafon ,

Finally.

I wonder if the recent news stories about “Lavender” and Israel’s grotesquely high acceptable civilian casualty rates had any bearing on this seeming shift in policy.

TropicalDingdong ,

Probably more likely the recent WSJ polls showing him losing his ass across all swing states. He’s a cipher. He’ll just move with the numbers.

Its not like the absurdity of Israels ongoing genocide stopped him before; philosophically, Biden basically is a Zionist. He’s one of the most pro-Israel Democrats there is.

politico.com/…/trump-biden-polls-2024-00150322

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TropicalDingdong ,

You might have missed it, but Trump has already pivoted on Gaza. It happened at neck snapping speeds. He’s pivoted to being highly critical of Bibi and is basically telling Israel they need to be done. He’s basically trying to be to the left of Biden on Gaza at this point. Now if that would hold up once he’s in office… eh. But that’s the rhetoric as of today/ a few hours ago.

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WanderingVentra ,

This will be a bit of a tangent, but I can’t believe people approved of Trump’s time in office. Are people’s memories that short? Every day was something else crazy. He basically caused this economic crisis by messing with the money in dumb ways, killed an Iranian general almost dragging us into a war, worsened this crisis in the Middle East, kids in concentration camps being separated from their families, unbelievable high amounts of corruption and turnover, impeached twice, botched Covid because they were mad at blue cities and didn’t like governing, and it ended with an attempted coup. It just never ended. Every day was something new and stressful. 51% of people saying they approved of Trump’s time in office from that article you posted just blows my mind. Just shows how dire straights America is in, how strong the propaganda is in Fox News and OAN.

And the sad part is that it doesn’t matter what I think, it only matters what the people in those swing states they polled think.

TropicalDingdong ,

51% of people saying they approved of Trump’s time in office

I think its not that complicated for people. They look at their bank accounts, they look at their wallets, they look at their job prospects and world around them, and they can pretty easily conclude: their lives were better under Trump.

It doesn’t matter that Trump had nothing to do with things going well then, and was likely making it worse, because peoples lived experience was that their lives were better. Biden inherited a shitwagon going off a shit cliff. He did turn things around, a bit. But a bit is not enough. People are still suffering. They look at the state of things and think “Well things were better then”. Its not a complicated calculus, even if its wrong.

The majority of people aren’t watching OAN or Fox news even. They arent watching anything really. Their calculations are very very simple.

NOT_RICK ,
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Probably not as much as an American citizen being killed by Israel on Monday, unfortunately.

gregorum OP ,

no doubt the IDF indiscriminately blowing up aid workers has something to do with it

ivanafterall ,
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How fucked that indiscriminately blowing up children isn't sufficient, but I'll take whatever positive progress possible.

TropicalDingdong ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ecfc0775-59a4-4832-9f46-6dc2db64a79d.png

aleph , (edited )
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Western aid workers, most importantly.

Over 100 aid workers have been killed since last October, but the others weren’t nearly as newsworthy due to being of Arab descent.

In circumstances eerily similar to the recent drone strikes on WCK, aid workers and medical staff working with Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders) were bombed and killed by Israeli forces even though they had notified the IDF of their location, and their convoy was fired upon as they tried to evacuate workers and their families from northern Gaza.

4am ,

but the others weren’t nearly as newsworthy due to being of Arab descent.

You may want to add an “apparently” to that or I’m afraid it could be taken the wrong way…

cymbal_king ,

I’m also going to speculate Iran’s threats to retaliate for the consulate bombing has their attention. Biden doesn’t want to start a war with Iran before the election, or at least I hope not

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