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Quereller ,

A few thoughts: Yes, this is literally animal testing.

This study was published 2.5 years ago.

Overall survival at 1 year at 65 % vs 35-40 with standard of care.

No serious side effects.

The peptide sequence was carefully selected.

thegreatgarbo , (edited )

Original scientific article link for those interested. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8379704/

In humans a 12 month OS change from 35-40% to 65% is impressive. I would be super excited about a therapy for my pup that would add 6 months to my pup’s life. The median survival improvement from 307 days to 478 days is enough for me to ask for that therapy instead of chemo and amputation for my pup’s osteosarcoma or other HER2 driven cancers.

Quereller ,

I think the treatment was in top of chemo and amputation. Anyhow, I agree with you.

ChowJeeBai ,

Yeah! The world needs more good boys!

chetradley ,

Yes, but also more homes for the good boys already in shelters waiting to be adopted.

Pyr_Pressure ,

Neutering and spaying dogs should be a requirement for ownership unless you are some sort of registered and certified breeder of some sort with a limited amount of licenses allowed to prevent over breeding.

twistypencil ,

Could have used this two years ago

Timecircleline ,

I’m sorry, friend.

twistypencil ,

♥️

DrugsMcChrist ,

can’t afford to get my old man back fixed, but rich people dogs gonna live forever

nac82 ,

In America, you can get free coverage if you are broke enough.

Where are you living? What kind of income?

And you think dog vaccines are bad because you have other problems? You should be embarrassed for letting your hurt turn into intentionally wishing more pain and death on others.

I’m sure your father would love to see your love for him turn into pointless hatred for dogs.

Maggoty ,

Backs are notoriously hard to fix. And low coverage often will not cover anything more than physical therapy and an opium addiction.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

In America, you can get free coverage if you are broke enough.

Can you tell me who gives broke people free coverage for chemo? How about physical therapy after a serious injury? Mental health care?

Rukmer , (edited )

Medicaid has different income limits for different states. For a family of 3 in Michigan it’s about 2755 per month. If you make less (per household) you qualify for Medicaid. Search “Medicaid Requirements” plus your state. Everything is covered. The 2400ish we bring home a month barely covers our bills, but it’s worth it for Medicaid if you have a chronic health condition (or on our case my spouse, our child, and myself all have serious health conditions). My medication for my pituitary deficiency would cost me thousands a month. My spouse and child have a genetic vascular condition and they need scans every year to make sure they’re not about to die.

Another thing you can do is a Medicaid spend down. I’m not sure how it is for every other state. But let’s say your limit is 3000 for your family but your income is 4000 and your medical bills are 2000 a month. You pay the difference between your income and the limit (1000), and Medicaid covers the rest. I believe you have to have a serious health issue to qualify for a Medicaid spend down.

If you are low enough income to qualify for SSI, Medicaid is given automatically (I think in every state).

In our state of Michigan you apply for Medicaid at DHHS. They have a very easy to use website for a few years now (it was a big hassle before that). Let me know if you have more questions about this.

nac82 ,

Hey, thanks for the detailed breakdown.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

…yale.edu/…/for-medicaid-insured-patients-with-ca…

nac82 ,

Cherrypicking.

The point is we are way better off than most nations on healthcare. You could be stuck in Russia where your medical options are get drafted to the front line and killed in your sleep by fellow soldiers over who gets the last soup.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry… how am I cherrypicking by proving my point that being poor doesn’t necessarily get you chemo?

How does it prove your point that, “In America, you can get free coverage if you are broke enough?” Because it seems like it shows the exact opposite.

nac82 ,

You didn’t prove that chemo isn’t provided coverage, you provided select times where coverage doesn’t sustain long term.

The claim was never all medical bills is covered in the USA.

And that has nothing to do with what the previous commenter said that you quoted your response too.

It’s nitpicking for holes in a statement made about the place where coverage is. Yall aren’t interested in solutions to “my old man’s back problems.” Yall are looking for a political point to bitch about to justify shitting on a cancer vaccine.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The claim was never all medical coverage is covered in the USA.

Sorry, what does: “In America, you can get free coverage if you are broke enough” mean then?

It means “In America, you can get free coverage for certain things if you are broke enough but for other things, unless you have money, too bad, you’re going to die?”

nac82 ,

I’m not going to write to a person that can’t read. You are literally demonstrating how you have to rewrite what was there to justify your idiotic responses.

Nothing in that sentence is a 100% guarantee and it obviously opens up the door to needing more information to tell.

That isn’t the comment you left your response to either, dipshit.

I hope you get a chance to encounter uncurable cancer of your loved ones so you can have a little empathy for these moments.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Hope no longer. Several of my loved ones have died of cancer. One because they couldn’t afford chemo. Which is why I know poor people can’t always afford chemo in the U.S.

I hope you’re very happy about two of my grandparents and one of my cousins dying of cancer since you hoped for it to happen.

nac82 ,

Lmao, you’re so full of shit. What state did your grandparents die of cancer in and when?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry, are you actually trying to get me to doxx myself because you think it’s such an unlikely thing that I have relatives who die of cancer?

Over half a million people die of cancer each year in the U.S. And you think I’m some sort of special person who has an entirely cancer-free family?

I’m also not sure why you hoped for me to have loved ones who died of cancer and when I told you that I did, you said I was lying about it. Isn’t that what you wanted for me?

nac82 , (edited )

I knew you were a fucking liar.

It’s doxxing to provide the details on the year of death of your grandparents?

Yea fucking right. You know the facts don’t back up your bullshit story and want to worm your way away from being responsible for your lies.

You claim there are so many deaths to cancer that it would be statistically impossible for you to avoid an encounter, while simultaneously claiming that saying the year and state that your grandparents died to cancer in would be specific enough to dox you.

The enemy is too powerful yet too weak, and all truths are lies, right?

The reality is that somebody related to you dying of cancer wouldn’t match up for what I wished on you. A sociopath like you who wishes against progress on cancer vaccines knows the words family but not their meaning.

Shut the fuck up.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The reality is that somebody related to you dying of cancer wouldn’t match up for what I wished on you.

Uh… this is what you said:

I hope you get a chance to encounter uncurable cancer of your loved ones so you can have a little empathy for these moments.

That sounds like it literally matches up. So that’s a weird lie.

A sociopath like you who wishes against progress on vaccines

When did I wish against progress on vaccines? I hope there is as much progress on vaccines as possible.

If you think I ever said anything anti-vax, in this or any other thread in Lemmy ever, please do quote me because I would love to see it. Unless, of course, that was also a lie.

I’m guessing you won’t actually provide any evidence to back up your silly lie, you’ll just insult me some more. But feel free to prove me wrong on that.

nac82 ,

I wished for somebody you loved to have cancer so you could face the horror. You only love yourself.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Why did you lie about me being anti-vax?

nac82 ,

You chimed in, saying it was bad faith to disrespect an antivax stance.

Why would you try and lie about that now? You didn’t get the right comments removed to hide that bit bud.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

saying it was bad faith to disrespect an antivax stance.

I said no such thing. That is another lie. I said nothing about bad faith, disrespect or an antivax stance.

Why are you telling such a ridiculous lie?

nac82 ,

It’s literally the opening comment in the thread and the basis of my entire response.

You decided your exceptions to the rule were enough to discard the rule. Then bickered from there.

The start of the thread is about a person wishing a vaccine for dog cancer doesn’t exist who you have decided is the correct person in this debate.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Another lie.

The opening comment on this thread is:

can’t afford to get my old man back fixed, but rich people dogs gonna live forever

lemmy.world/comment/8195752

The comment of mine you replied to is:

…yale.edu/…/for-medicaid-insured-patients-with-ca…

lemmy.world/comment/8203105

It was in response to someone saying that broke people could afford any treatment in America.

Because the discussion was about medical care and its costs, not some weird anti-vax thing regarding dogs. I vaccinate my dogs like I’m supposed and like my vet recommends.

I have absolutely no idea why you are telling such ludicrous lies or trying to gaslight me about them.

nac82 ,

it was in response to a comment saying broke people could afford any treatment

Hey, look more lies.

Nobody said that, it was a strawman you made up to nitpick and spread misinformation off of.

Because you are a liar. Enjoy the block.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I literally quoted them saying it earlier. Amazing.

Catoblepas ,

There are states where you can’t get medical coverage from the state unless you’re a child or disabled. Every state didn’t expand Medicaid eligibility and every state runs its healthcare system differently.

If you’re going to veer into such an intentionally bad faith reading of someone else’s comment you should at least be right about what you’re saying.

nac82 ,

What states are you talking about? What bad faith discussion?

Projection. Yall just want to shit on a system ypu don’t understand. Definitively a bad faith dispute.

What kind of people defend shitting on cancer vaccinations of any type?

Catoblepas ,

It’s easy to search it yourself, but there are 10 states that haven’t expanded Medicaid. People in these states who are “just” poor (not disabled or children) do not have access to low/no cost healthcare as you suggested.

Reading someone saying they wish they could get their back fixed and complaining about rich people’s pets having a better standard of healthcare than people, then jumping straight to “they hate dogs and want them to die of cancer” is bad faith. Their feelings about dogs are clearly not the subject of their comment. It’s a complaint about the system that has left them without adequate access to healthcare.

nac82 , (edited )

It’s obviously not that easy, seeing as how you have created a strawman and are arguing false information.

The claim wasn’t about the expansion of medicaid, it was that free coverage exists in all states.

Texas is one of your 10 listed states but has a “Charity Care” law for all non profit hospitals requiring they provide free aid to those that qualify.

www2.texasattorneygeneral.gov/…/access-to-health-…

People who pretend a topic is simple to dismiss the claims of others are typically wrong.

By National law, you are required to be provided any kind of emergency care needed, patientadvocate.org/…/uninsured-and-facing-an-eme….

Seems like you are full of shit and want to strawman the topic to be about medicaid expansion.

The hate dogs portion is to address their actual comment which shits on a vaccine for dogs because of coverage not offered by their government. You’re just another shitty person looking to justify hating on modern medicine because you’re bitter.

It’s bad faith to pretend a direct address to his shitty comment is bad faith because it upsets you. I was holding my dog who is currently dying of cancer, while typing that portion, so I would love for you to have said this shit to my face. Fuck his and your shitty attitude on medicine for dogs. Would be pure poetry for the two of yall to taste cancer treatments to know what yall are wishing on people.

Seeing as how you can’t piece together a thought that isn’t 100% pieced together by bullshit, I’m going to move on from this convo. Have a good one.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The biggest tragedy of pet ownership is that they just don’t live long enough.

This is true, but there is no ‘long enough’ unless it is ‘from the moment you get it until you die.’ The pain of losing a dog is just an unfortunate part of having a dog and they just will never live long enough for you to not feel that pain.

n2burns ,

Maybe this is being too cold-hearted, but we tend to choose pets that live a fraction of a human’s life. There are many animals which could make good pets except they live as long as humans (if not a lot longer).

I think what this article was something like,

The biggest tragedy of pet ownership is that sometimes those pets die far too soon due to illness.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know that many of them can have the symbiotic relationship we have with dogs.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

Parrots.

Maggoty ,

I cannot with parrots.

Maybe with corvids? But their love is conditional, unlike a dog or cat.

Aviandelight ,
@Aviandelight@mander.xyz avatar

I have parrots and I love them more than life itself but it’s not quite the same relationship that I have with my dog. Dogs are truly special.

aniki ,

We literally have a genetic bond with dogs. Nothing on earth is quite like it.

otp ,

I think your family tree looks a little bit different than mine! Lol

sigmaklimgrindset ,

Um, we don’t have a “genetic bond” with dogs unless you’re talking about LUCA…or a dog has learned how to comment on Lemmy…

aniki ,

discovermagazine.com/…/dogs-have-co-evolved-with-…

a dog is literally a wolf bread to be a perfect human companion.

sigmaklimgrindset ,

That has nothing to do with a genetic bond with humans.

From your linked article:

More likely, domestication happened slowly, in fits and starts. “This symbiotic or commensal relationship,” says Robert Quinlan, professor of anthropology at Washington State University, “probably initially happened accidentally."

Dogs and humans have a symbiotic bond, as the OP from your original reply said. We did not bond our genes with them, like that episode of Fullmetal Alchemist (I hope).

Sorry to be a “acktually”-type pedant about this, but terminology is important when discussing genetics, otherwise people get confused and end up like the ones that think we can’t be genetically related to chimps because they exist at the same time as we do.

Feathercrown ,

I feel like messing with animals’ lifespans is playing God too much. Then again, we made the Chihuahua, and if anything was an affront to God it’d be that.

henfredemars ,

Life is short. There’s never enough time to be with your loved ones.

glimse ,

My sister lost her dog this weekend in a freak accident and everyone in the family - not just her husband and kids - are devastated. He was such an essential part of every gathering.

He wasn’t just a dog, he was my friend.

honeybadger1417 ,

I’m sorry for your loss. My dog is getting older and I don’t know what my family will do without her when she passes away.

glimse ,

There’s no good way to spin it, it simply sucks to lose a pet. Dogs are the best and they become such a strong force in your life.

KnightontheSun ,

I believe this is a part of what a dog does to help teach us about life. Giving us joy and companionship while also teaching us about grief and loss in the end.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I am so sorry for both you and your sister and her family. Thankfully, all of my dogs have lived a full life and when they end came, it wasn’t a surprise. It is so much sadder when it’s unexpected.

kumatomic ,

I’m sorry. I know your heart is broken and nothing but time can ease it. I lost my cat in January at 15 years old from hyperthyroid related kidney failure. We met when she was a feral kitten and ran out from under a food truck and tried to take me down by the ankle. We bonded instantly. It has me at a heightened state of awareness of the mortality of my two dogs and remaining cat. It hurts like hell and I’m so sorry you lost your friend.

Mastengwe ,

Yep. I can remember this past October when we lost our dog of 15 years, telling myself and my girlfriend that we were never going to avoid this happening to him/us. There was no magic formula or pill or procedure that was going to give him to us forever.

And while it didn’t necessarily make us feel better about it, it made enough sense that it helped us cope with the loss with better understanding.

Maggoty , (edited )

I’m watching my dog get gray in the muzzle and struggling with this myself. Thank you.

Mastengwe ,

Hope it helps.

twistypencil ,

I know what you are saying, but I don’t agree. I’d take one more year with my dog over no more years any day. Breeding all kinds of crazy types of dogs, but never for a longer life is nuts.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Would one more year really have been long enough though?

Longer would be better, sure, but would you have ever gotten to a point where you would have been okay to lose that dog?

Kalothar ,

Yes, it would have been better. A longer healthier life for a dog, who says you have to get to that point? Maybe we will bring a whole new meaning to the word family dog, passed down generations.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t ask if it would be better.

Of course it would be better.

Would it be long enough? I doubt it. At least I know that no matter how many years any of my dogs lived, even if it was 50 years, if I outlived, them it wouldn’t be long enough.

Long enough means you would be okay if they died.

twistypencil ,

It’s not about how much is enough, that is a weird way to think about it. Would I have liked to have another year with him? Absolutely, he died too early.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s literally what the article said, so blame the article. It says, “The biggest tragedy of pet ownership is that they just don’t live long enough.” It’s right there at the top of the post. That’s what I was commenting on.

Llewellyn ,

they just will never live long enough for you to not feel that pain.

Well, you can have a dog in your senior years.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, but you will have lost all the others before that. Unless that is your first dog.

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