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Trump loses ‘immunity’ appeal in E Jean Carroll defamation case

A trial is scheduled to begin next week. His attorneys have suggested appealing to the Supreme Court

Donald Trump lost yet another attempt to avoid a trial stemming from a defamation lawsuit from E Jean Carroll, after a federal appeals court panel in New York refused to rehear his “immunity” defence one week before the trial is set to begin.

A single-page order from the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit on Monday declined to hear his request for the case to be heard in front of the court’s full 13-member panel. Mr Trump’s next option is to appeal to the US Supreme Court.

The trial is scheduled to begin in a federal courtroom in Manhattan on 15 January.

A federal jury already awarded Ms Carroll $5m earlier last year after finding Mr Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation. A second trial from another lawsuit is set to determine how much more he owes for denying her allegations while he was in office.

n0m4n ,

I really don’t see SCOTUS taking this trial on. Trump and Epstein having laughs, and reports of sexual proclivities of clients floating around! Unless It proved that Ms Carrol, an adult, was a couple decades too old for Trump.

LanternEverywhere ,

Holy shit thank god

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

You gotta stop posting Trump headlines because they’re all the same.

Wanna be fascist does dumb things that most other politicians could never get away with, people actually try to debate it for some reason, political pundits take it seriously.

It’s getting to the point where Trump isn’t the problem … it’s the establishment that keep taking him seriously and shoving him into our faces on a daily basis.

Assman ,
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Seriously, I yearn for the day I never have to see that name again

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

And it gets dumber than the original headline … the outcome is always the same.

A dumb orange politician commits crime, tried in court but rich people for some reason pour money into supporting him and he gets away with charges or has the entire thing delayed … again and again.

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

He’s literally going to delay any consequences until he’s dead. We have no reason to think otherwise so please let’s just stop talking about him.

TimLovesTech ,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

Turning your back on what he is trying to get away with is what he wants, that is how you put a fascist in power. Instead everyone should put everything they see this man do under a microscope and broadcast it all until he is safely in prison.

smeenz ,

Except that it’s poor people who pour money into supporting him. Poor, deluded, brainwashed people. Rich people don’t give their money away, they instead convince poor people to fund them

IvanOverdrive ,

Yeah. Me too. But there are some psychopathic fucks out there who use that want to make sure Trump can try again. These headlines are monotonous but they keep his crimes fresh in the public’s mind.

oxjox ,
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The same could be said about practically all of the news today…

Someone says something on Twitter, people actually try to debate it for some reason, political pundits take it seriously.

Web 2.0 has given us all the freedom to express ourselves with little if any consequences. A story or “well crafted” headline can easily entice us to spend moments at our keyboards doing what humans do - communicate ideas. Prior to this, the story was one-sided. “The News” - broadcast news, newspapers, periodicals; was all there was. There was no feedback or input from the people unless it was explicitly sought out. Now, The News knows precisely what generates our attention so they can double down on those stories to increase profitability rather than ‘inform the public as the fourth pillar of democracy’.

As critical our founding fathers thought journalism was to be, allowing such an industry to be privately owned and influenced most heavily by the attention a community gives it seems to be in conflict with its intention.

That’s to say, "the establishment that keep taking him seriously and shoving him into our faces " is just the result of an industry that shows content in order to increase advertising revenue. This isn’t going to end.

perviouslyiner ,

It’s not even the only Trump immunity hearing going on today!

n0m4n ,

Assume Trump prevails. If a President can do anything without being held liable, and carry that immunity for life, what would stop Dark Brandon from clearing the field of Presidential candidates, the Senate, the House, SCOTUS, and both Fox and OAN for good measure? They really haven’t thought this through.

TimLovesTech ,
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I’m sure Trump has, but he is looking at life in a cell, and he’ll gladly roll the dice on every life but his own to stay out of one.

werefreeatlast ,

All good but just one thing…media has been privately owned forever. NPR and other such independent broadcasting and news generators are public but they are rare compared to the numbers of privately owned media. The problem you might be meaning to bring up is that almost all of the media is privately owned by the same person/company.

modifier ,

I would argue that all of this has value for its own sake. Trump is testing the seams and joins our of complicated system. It’s useful in isolation.

Obviously destructive in context though.

tacosplease ,

Do you think he’ll stop if we don’t pay attention?

You can filter or choose not to click any post you want to avoid. Some of us want to stay vigilant.

ininewcrow ,
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It’s not just about ignoring the problem … when your neighbour starts blasting heavy metal music all day long for everyone to hear, yes you can just tune out the noise and put up with it. But after a while, it’s just too hard to not notice and then it makes you wonder why everyone with power and influence constantly wants to push this idiot into the headlines on a near constant daily basis.

TimLovesTech ,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

It might have something to do with his no longer hidden desire to become a ruthless dictator. At this point everything he does should be under a microscope, and putting your head in the sand makes you an enabler.

jordanlund ,
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Again, they seem to fail to understand he’s already been deemed liable. This isn’t a guilt/innocence thing. This is “how much are you going to pay” thing.

Just like the Trump Org. trial over faking financial documents. Or the Giuliani defamation trial in Georgia. “We’ve already established what kind of person you are, now we’re just negotiating price.”

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