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thefartographer , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official

Turns out if you’re rich enough, you get to try out the trolly problem in real life and then brag about it in your biography.

Immersive_Matthew ,

That needs to be the meme that goes around.

JoJoGAH , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official

I can’t be the only person who wondered “what’s his real motive” when he volunteered these for free, knowing much of what he is known for. I guess people he’s visited in DC have benefitted as well, because surely they knew this wouldn’t go well, right?

SpaceCowboy ,
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Elon Musk is an attention starved and has the mentality of an impulsive spoiled child. Slava Ukraini was trending, so he wanted to insert himself into it to get attention. Probably thought Ukraine would lose so he gets a little attention for trying to help these guys fighting the good fight before they were ultimately crushed by Russia.

But that didn’t happen. Ukraine continues on and what he thought of as a little in the moment publicity stunt obligated him to helping Ukraine. While most people would happy with the result, but scared little child Elon Musk felt he was in over his head. And being the impulsive child he is, started doing impulsive shit and interfered in an active military conflict, compromising an ally’s mission.

It’s hard to say how much DC is in the know. It is a new tech, glitches happen, so they might not have suspected Musk was the glitch in the system.

someguy3 , in “Climate-friendly” beef could land in a meat aisle near you. Don’t fall for it.

Didn’t feeding them seaweed drastically reduce their methane burps?

jeffw OP ,
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sweetholymosiah , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official

Lots of warmongers here who call themselves left libs… do we want a nuclear war? Raise your hand if you supported the iraq war and also voted biden.

JamesStallion ,

I tend to feel sympathy for defenders. I was happy to see that one helicopter get shit down in Desert Storm 2, I think we should never have gone to Afghanistan and I think Russia should never have attacked Kiev. It seems consistent to me.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Do you not believe that a country should be helped to defend themselves after getting invaded?

GreenMario ,

So your saying we should all surrender to a nuclear dictator cuz he might nuke us? Sure! Go ahead and take Alaska and Canada! We wouldn’t want to start a nuclear war now would we?

Fucking idiot. Self defense is not warmongering.

_haha_oh_wow_ , in In U.S.-China AI contest, the race is on to deploy killer robots
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Can we not please?

bobman ,

If we don’t, then they will.

Same reason we use oil.

0Xero0 , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official
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the fucking little cunt is dying to lick Putin’s tiny shit covered dick that much? If he wants it then the brat should have gone the front lines so the ruZZian invaders can take his ass to his naZis fuhrer

SeaJ , in 11-year-old boy to stand trial for mother's murder, motive suspected to be VR headset

Sounds like she did not lock up her gun and did not teach her child gun safety at all. That’s sad but unless they can show intent, it seems a little ridiculous to charge him.

RaivoKulli ,

I guess never too young to be taugh gun safety but it just feels weird to prepare a 10-yo kid to handle a gun. Dunno if that would’ve saved her in this case. Should’ve had the gun in a more secure location.

That’s sad but unless they can show intent, it seems a little ridiculous to charge him.

He did shoot her and by his own account understood what guns do. Of course they’re going to charge him.

prole ,

You’re right. I can’t think of any way this could have possibly been avoided. After all, this happens in every civilized nation in the world…

CADmonkey , in Doctor arrested after guns, drugs and prostitutes found in yacht raid

I wonder what the hull on something like that is made out of? I feel like it’s too big to be fiberglass. Steel plate is obvious, but what grade? I don’t think a yacht would use A36, but I just don’t know.

MiltownClowns , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official

Elon Musk is skirting with making StarLink one of the first nationalized companies in the US in a long time. Lets hope its a domino for all ISPs.

jk i hear spectrum and at&t are merging to one company to be called “lmao, get fucked america”

Wilibus ,

If you want to take his technology to wage foreign wars then do it.

If you’d rather just rely on a private citizens to provide vital military infrastructure to your allies then deal with the fact that private citizens are prone to such behaviors as acting in their own best interest.

MiltownClowns ,

What? Do you think Ratheon gets to dictate who’s children we kill with their bombs?

Wilibus ,

That’s a really awful comparison and not just because you misspelled Raytheon.

Go look up what a strawman argument is.

samsepi0l ,

Not OP but I’d rather have our gov, who is bound by certain rules and regs and SHOULD be serving the people, operate this than one person who only has his own interests in mind.

1 billionaire shouldn’t be able to control the world.

Wilibus ,

Just think of how much money was saved by letting Musk provide vital defense infrastructure for free.

Sure, Musk is a piece of shit, but when you don’t want to pay for a babysitter and a deranged cannibal offers to watch your child for free, is it really entirely the cannibals fault when he eats your baby despite him totally promising not to.

MiltownClowns ,
Wilibus ,

The Air Force said in its contract justification document, cited in the reports, that the deal involves Starlink supporting US military bases in Europe and Africa with fixed-site and portable satellite internet services.

The contract was for US military bases, not for facilitating offensive strikes. So this was expected au gratis.

ZeroCool ,

by letting Musk provide vital defense infrastructure for free.

He’s not providing it for free. You clearly don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

Wilibus ,

Article is pretty clear about it being for US military bases, not offensive operations. Which is a very significant restriction.

Initially it was offered without cost as humanitarian aid. When they expanded on the use of it to include military operations, Elon (rightfully) attached a price tag to it. When they wanted to use outside of the scope of the services they contracted it for Elon said no. Once again another reason infrastructure shouldn’t be provided by private citizens.

MiltownClowns ,

Is it similar to the ad hominem in your comment?

Hey look, we both used big words to dodge the point while implicitly impugning the integrity of our adversary! Twinsies!

Wilibus ,

I was pretty direct to the point with my comment. Sorry you got touchy about me correcting your spelling.

It’s not he was sitting there one and his Elon senses started tingling and he suddenly disabled Starlink without warning. They made a request to broaden the usage area and he inferred what they were trying to do and denies it because of the what he felt was a risk he didn’t want to take. The whole Pearl Harbour 2.0 potentially escalating into a nuclear conflict, which is more likely than people are willing to give him credit for.

Whether you agree or disagree with his decision, the issue here isn’t which side he choose, it is the fact he was given the capability to make that choice.

Your turn to explain how this situation is similar to a US arms manufacturer choosing which child has their bombs dropped on it.

MiltownClowns ,

Seems like a joyless exercise in frivolity, attempting to teach you why these decisions are matters for the state department and not Daddy Musk. So I’ll pass.

Thank you so much for the opportunity, though!

Wilibus ,

Won’t? Or can’t?

The fact that your post agrees with my point makes believe it is the latter and you’re just a “eLoN bAd hE b0rKeD tWitUr” moron.

LordOfTheChia ,

The timing is the issue. If Musk had disallowed use of Starlink for drone control from the start, then that’s one thing.

If he had notified the Ukraine Armed forces that he was going to do it ahead of time, that would have been best.

However, he ordered that their access be disrupted while an attack on the Russian Navy was going to take place. Meaning Starlink access was cut just at the worst time and caused the drones to simply wash ashore.

That same Navy has been causing thousands of civilian casualties.

How Musk knew Ukraine was going to launch an attack but hadn’t hit their targets yet is another concerning fact.

CNN on Thursday quoted an excerpt from the biography Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson, which described how armed submarine drones were approaching a Russian fleet near the Crimean coast when they “lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly”.

The biography, due out on Tuesday, alleges Musk ordered Starlink engineers to turn off the service in the area of the attack because of his concern that Vladimir Putin would respond with nuclear weapons to a Ukrainian attack on Russian-occupied Crimea.

It would be the difference between GM shutting down your car remotely when it’s parked after sending you notice vs GM shutting off your car when you’re at highway speeds and taking an exit.

Saneless , in Suspected Chinese operatives using AI generated images to spread disinformation among US voters, Microsoft says

Wouldn’t pretending to be an expert on Fox News and just make things up be easier?

Or is that route pretty congested already?

AbidanYre , in “Climate-friendly” beef could land in a meat aisle near you. Don’t fall for it.

Clean coal all over again?

TokenBoomer ,

Yes it is.

PeleSpirit , in Fulton County special grand jury recommended charges against Lindsey Graham and 2 Georgia US senators | CNN Politics

I put this in the other thread but it’s good info so I thought I’d share it here too.

Name Votes Indicted
Rudy Giuliani 20Y/1N/OA yes
John Eastman 20Y/1N/OA yes
Kenneth Chesebro 20Y/1N/OA yes
Donald Trump 20Y/1N/OA yes
Cleta Mitchell 20Y/1N/OA
Jenna Ellis 20Y/1N/OA yes
Mark Meadows 20Y/1N/OA yes
David Shafer 20 Y/1N/OA yes
Ray Smith 20Y/1N/OA yes
Lin Wood 20Y/1N/OA
Lindsey Graham 13Y/7N/1A
Sidney Powell 20Y/1N/OA yes
Robert Cheeley 20Y/1N/OA yes
Michael Flynn 20Y/1N/OA
William Ligon 20Y/1N/OA
David Perdue 17Y/4N/0A
Kelly Loeffler 14Y/6N/1A
Cathleen Latham 18Y/3N/0A yes
Misty Hampton 18Y/3N/OA yes
Scott Hall 17Y/4N/0A yes
Boris Epshteyn 20Y/1N/OA
JeffClark 20Y/1N/OA yes
Kurt Hilbert 19Y/1N/1A
Steven Lee 19Y/2N/0A yes
Trevian Kutti 19Y/2N/OA yes
Harrison Floyd 19Y/2N/0A yes
Alex Kaufman 17Y/3N/1A
Micheal Roman Not listed yes
Carolyn Fisher 9Y/9N/3A
Burt Jones 10 Y/8N/3A
Gloria Godwin 9Y/IN/3A
Mark Hennessy 9Y/IN/3A
Mark Amick 9Y/ON/3A
John Downey 9Y/9N/3A
Brad Carver 9Y/9N/3A
Shaun Still 9Y/9N/3A yes
Yadav 9Y/IN/3A
bobman ,

What about convictions?

Janoose ,
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Good info, thank you. There’s a number of 20 yes votes to indict that didn’t actually get indicted. I wonder if that means they all flipped.

PeleSpirit ,

My thoughts too, at least some of them had to be flippers.

kajdav ,

Can you explain what this table is?

PeleSpirit ,

The grand jury in Georgia was asked to vote on whether or not the names listed should be indicted. The middle is the yes, no, and, I think abstain count, but I’m not positive. The last column was whether they were indicted or not. There was one name that I didn’t see listed in the indictment but was indicted.

iforgotmyinstance , in Elon Musk ‘committed evil’ with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official

Ukraine. Southeast Montana. Doesn’t matter.

Aiding and abetting governments hostile to the US and its allies is treason. Musk is a fraud, a traitor and deserves to be imprisoned.

kjpctech ,

Southeast Montana?

downpunxx , in “Climate-friendly” beef could land in a meat aisle near you. Don’t fall for it.
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I like beef, I like the climate unfriendly kind, I'm gonna go nuts for this new climate friendly kind I bet

the_q ,

Why are you like that?

jeffw OP ,
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Trolls gonna troll

WoahWoah ,

Weren’t they just saying that if they already like and purchase beef, they’re going to be able to enjoy it even more if there’s an option less harmful to the environment?

lapbar , in Jimmy Fallon apologises to Tonight Show staff after toxic workplace allegations - reports
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This is hilarious if you’ve ever worked in Hollywood: An NBC spokesperson told the magazine: “As in any workplace, we have had employees raise issues; those have been investigated and action has been taken where appropriate. As is always the case, we encourage employees who feel they have experienced or observed behaviour inconsistent with our policies to report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly.”

Saneless ,

And we always tell them, you can be honest. Don’t worry, we won’t “retaliate”

But why the quotes?

Oh, just for emphasis that we absolutely will “not retaliate or fire you immediately and spread rumors about you”

dogslayeggs ,

report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly

Which means they will fire that person and make sure they never work in the industry again. That sounds like a cliche you hear in movies, but if you know people who work in Hollywood you know that it’s a real thing.

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