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MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in Nearly half of online pharmacies selling weight loss drugs are operating illegally, study finds
MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in What can a city do when neo-Nazis start marching down its streets?

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FlyingSquid , in What can a city do when neo-Nazis start marching down its streets?
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This is a good start: www.youtube.com/shorts/r_UP_EiXwKA

May I also suggest setting up rotten vegetable stands at the farmer’s markets?

crusa187 , in U.S. official: Biden realized Netanyahu lied to him about hostage deal

Gee, what could have possibly clued Biden into the fact that Netenyahu was being disingenuous? Could it possibly have been the fact that after every time they spoke, Bibi would immediately go on-air in Israeli press and brag about what a little removed Biden is and how he’s completely in Bibi’s pocket? Could that have been a sign?!

cybervseas , in Nearly half of online pharmacies selling weight loss drugs are operating illegally, study finds

This is all true, and concerning. I wonder how much of this is real concern for patient well-being, and how much is big pharma really wanting to hold onto the new cash cow?

Edit: counterfeit is a problem. What about generics from compounding pharmacies?

Boozilla ,
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Compounding can be a ‘red flag’ in the industry. This not to say compounding is inherently bad. There are some very legitimate uses for it. However, if the pharmacy does a lot of compounding business (percentage-wise) it could trigger an audit. And you’re right that big pharma trying to crush the little guys is a big part of this, too. Some pharmacies will intentionally under-report the amount of compounding they do, because they know it can draw unwanted attention. Pharmacy is one of those messy complicated things where there are way too many middlemen and rent-seekers, which makes it more expensive for patients and harder for regulators to keep tabs on things. Thank goodness Lina Khan with the FTC is doing her best to throw some sunlight under these dark rocks.

Telodzrum ,

Since the spinal infection a decade ago, these compounding pharmacies are operating under incredibly heavy regulation and have their operations very restricted and bifurcated between clean labs and standard labs. The testing requirements are both extreme and reasonable. I’m as comfortable ordering a compounded script as I am one from a traditional vendor these days.

teft ,
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Since the spinal infection a decade ago

For anyone like me who had no clue about this happening:

en.wikipedia.org/…/New_England_Compounding_Center…

solsangraal ,

‘Is curing patients a sustainable business model?’

TL;DR: when it comes to big pharma, there is never real concern for patient “well-being,” only for them to be alive enough to keep paying for pills

billiam0202 , in What can a city do when neo-Nazis start marching down its streets?

Point.

Laugh.

Call them “weird”.

Make them realize how unpopular they really are.

Reverendender ,

Briefly, then go all out ignoring them

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PugJesus , in What can a city do when neo-Nazis start marching down its streets?

The brazen appearance of white supremacist groups in Nashville left the city grappling with how to confront hateful speech without violating First Amendment protections.

The neo-Nazis poured into the historic Metro courthouse to disrupt a City Council meeting,

Arrest. Them. Holy shit, that’s something that in any reasonably sized city would be worth at least a night in jail to cool off, even if you were some fucking normie instead of a neonazi fuck. It’s not that fucking hard.

FlyingSquid ,
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Arrest them for what exactly? Is disrupting a city council meeting anything but a civil infraction?

I don’t want this sort of thing going on, but what law would justify jail time?

I mean maybe they did do something to justify it, but I don’t know that disrupting a city council meeting should land people in jail. People also disrupt city council meetings when they try to pass anti-queer ordinances. And they should.

PugJesus ,

Arrest them for what exactly? Is disrupting a city council meeting anything but a civil infraction?

Criminal trespass, easy. Fuck, that’s levied all the time as a club against left-wing protesters. Yet when actual neonazis show up, they get nothing? Fuck that.

FlyingSquid ,
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I think the answer to that is not ‘also arrest the Nazis,’ it’s ‘don’t arrest the left-wing protesters either.’

Balancing the scales doesn’t solve the problem.

PugJesus ,

Balancing the scales doesn’t solve the problem.

And neither does playing by the gentleman’s rules of boxing when your opponent is using brass knuckles. Fucking “They go low, we go high”? Did we not learn our lesson? If a weapon is used, the correct answer is to make the opposition see why that weapon was banned in the first place - it’s the same reason why many signatories of the Geneva Protocol allow for retaliation if chemical weapons are used against them.

FlyingSquid ,
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So left-wing protesters should continue to be arrested as long as Nazis are also arrested? Really?

PugJesus ,

So left-wing protesters should continue to be arrested as long as Nazis are also arrested? Really?

… what? Not arresting Nazis isn’t going to magically un-arrest left-wing protesters.

FlyingSquid ,
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It’s also not going to arrest Nazis that have already done these things. So how about we don’t arrest anyone for protesting and just make it legal from now on?

hypnotoad__ ,
@hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m sure police chiefs will get right on that

FlyingSquid ,
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I’m sure police chiefs will get right on arresting Nazis too. What’s your point? We shouldn’t advocate for not arresting people for protesting?

PugJesus ,

It’s also not going to arrest Nazis that have already done these things.

You’re fucking kidding me, right? You don’t pre-arrest people. You arrest people after they’ve done shit.

So how about we don’t arrest anyone for protesting and just make it legal from now on?

God, why didn’t we think of that brilliant solution before? How many left-wing lawyers and political organizations have simply overlooked that we can just make it legal to protest?

FlyingSquid ,
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I see, this is one of these “never try” situations. We could never stop left-wing protesters from being arrested so we should never try to stop it and advocate for that to end and instead just call for other people to be arrested too.

Because we shouldn’t want people to have rights, we should want other people’s rights taken away.

PugJesus ,

I see, this is one of these “never try” situations. We could never stop left-wing protesters from being arrested so we should never try to stop it and advocate for that to end and instead just call for other people to be arrested too.

No, it’s apparently one of those noble martyrdom things, where the correct response to getting brutalized by Nazis is to roll over and show how very moral you are by just passively taking it.

Because we shouldn’t want people to have rights, we should want other people’s rights taken away.

You do realize that this is already happening to left-wing protesters, right? The only thing you’re advocating for is that left-wing protesters get the full force of the state laid down on them while Nazis are allowed to roam free because “It wouldn’t be fair” to apply the same goddamn laws to them as long as those laws are on the books.

FlyingSquid ,
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You’ve convinced me. Never try to get back rights that were taken away from you. Just get vengeance.

PugJesus ,

Vengeance is when you show why mutual disarmament is a good idea instead of showing that you won’t fight back, and the less you fight back, the less vengeful you are.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Got it. Fight back, but not for your rights which have been taken away from you.

PugJesus ,

You do realize a society can do more than one thing at a time, right?

Like, demanding police chiefs to arrest Nazis under the same circumstances that they arrest left-wing protesters is not going to magically diminish the work of left-wing lawyers and politicians to redefine the rules so that protesters, in general, are not being arrested. Even application is kind of the point of laws, and not simply allowing but actually advocating that an unequal application of the law be perpetuated (because it wouldn’t be fair if the Nazis got the same treatment as left-wing protesters) is, itself, incredibly damaging to the legitimacy of the government as a whole.

Fuck’s sake.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Like, demanding police chiefs to arrest Nazis under the same circumstances that they arrest left-wing protesters is not going to magically diminish the work of left-wing lawyers and politicians to redefine the rules so that protesters, in general, are not being arrested.

That… was literally what I was saying.

PugJesus ,

That… was literally what I was saying.

Read it again.

Like, demanding police chiefs to arrest Nazis under the same circumstances that they arrest left-wing protesters is not going to magically diminish the work of left-wing lawyers and politicians to redefine the rules so that protesters, in general, are not being arrested.

FlyingSquid ,
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Okay, but it won’t happen, so what’s the point of demanding it rather than just working to redefine those roles and working to elect politicians who will do so?

It reminds me of some vegans who go out and protest meat eating. That’s not going to stop people eating meat. Working on campaigns to convince people why they should stop eating meat is what should be concentrated on.

I do not see what demanding they be arrested accomplishes when you and I both know they won’t be.

PugJesus ,

Okay, but it won’t happen so what’s the point of demanding it

This you?

I see, this is one of these “never try” situations. We could never stop left-wing protesters from being arrested so we should never try to stop it and advocate for that to end

And furthermore, it’s a lot easier to get cops to arrest people than to get cops to not arrest people.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know how I could have been any more clear that I was being sarcastic.

PugJesus ,

… yes. You were being sarcastic. Which is what makes that response contradict your current point.

You mock the idea that we should never try to stop something because “We could never stop it”, yet, then say, without any sarcasm or irony, “Okay, but it won’t happen so what’s the point of demanding it” on another issue.

Do you… not see the contradiction?

FlyingSquid ,
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I’m saying arresting Nazis won’t happen but changing the laws to make it so that protesters won’t get arrested at all is a possibility, especially on a regional or local level.

One relies on the cops cooperating. The other relies on just telling them they can’t even be there.

PugJesus ,

I’m saying arresting Nazis won’t happen

Yes, and you dismiss the idea of attempting it because “it will never happen” after mocking the approach of “It won’t happen so why try”.

I legitimately don’t know how to simplify this any further.

One relies on the cops cooperating. The other relies on just telling them they can’t even be there.

Do you… do you think the cops listen when they’re told not to be somewhere and they want to be there? Do you think that’s not cooperation?

FlyingSquid ,
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Yes. I think cops will not go places if they’re told they will be facing things like fines if they do. They like getting paid.

And I think it’s much easier to do that on a local level than telling them to go arrest the Nazis.

PugJesus ,

Yes. I think cops will not go places if they’re told they will be facing things like fines if they do. They like getting paid.

So there’s the power to coerce cops to follow the law, but not the power to coerce cops to do their job and ensure others are following the law. Do we have the power to make cops enforce any laws?

And I think it’s much easier to do that on a local level than telling them to go arrest the Nazis.

You think it’s easier to make cops respect people’s rights than it is to get them to arrest people they don’t give a fuck about.

Okay.

FlyingSquid ,
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So there’s the power to coerce cops to follow the law, but not the power to coerce cops to do their job and ensure others are following the law. Do we have the power to make cops enforce any laws?

Yes. It’s called money.

You think it’s easier to make cops respect people’s rights than it is to get them to arrest people they don’t give a fuck about.

Yes, if it costs them money.

ShepherdPie ,

Left-wing protestors not getting arrested isn’t even on the table here, so I don’t see why the argument should be couched based on that.

FlyingSquid ,
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Why isn’t it on the table? Shouldn’t it be on the table?

grue ,

Left-wing protestors respect the social contract. NAZIs don’t, and therefore do not deserve to be protected by it.

JJROKCZ ,

Arrest any and all groups that storm in and disrupt government functions, simple as that

FlyingSquid ,
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Which means that people in the government can argue that virtually anything the government does is a “government function.” Mayor’s press conference? Government function. Better arrest those protesters. Governor’s mansion? It has public tours. That’s a government function. Better arrest those protestors.

Look what happened without that law when a president wanted a photo op with a Bible in front of a church. And you want to make that even easier?

JJROKCZ ,

You can protest outside the building perfectly fine, storming into the chambers and stopping the agenda is blatant disruption and I won’t argue it.

FlyingSquid ,
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But how do you make it clear that is the government function that can’t be disrupted but the press conference afterward can because it does not count as a government function?

JJROKCZ ,

Don’t enter government grounds for your protests… do it outside the building.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Outside the building is often government grounds too. Those buildings can be in plazas which are entirely government-owned.

So, again, you’re saying you can’t protest the press conference (except from a great distance).

JoMiran ,
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Criminal trespass…

Most city council meetings are legally open to the public. It is in fact their main purpose.

PugJesus ,

Most city council meetings are legally open to the public. It is in fact their main purpose.

I’m used to normal city council meetings being private, and public ones being the exception.

Nougat ,

Civil disobedience can get you arrested, and while you might beat the rap, you can't beat the ride.

ShepherdPie ,

After seeing federal agents literally kidnapping people off the streets of Portland for “looking like protesters,” yes absolutely they can arrest them even if the charges are bullshit or won’t stick.

FlyingSquid ,
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Not if they don’t get paid for it.

aodhsishaj ,

Both you and @FlyingSquid are arguing the same point. The only difference is @FlyingSquid wants nobody arrested and you want to also arrest the Nazis.

First of all ACAB let it be known. However I think it’s more likely to get a local city council to allow for anyone using intimidating imagery, (defined by swastika and similar iconography) to be detained and removed from chambers. It’s been done elsewhere with great effect.

The issue is how to get it enforced because unfortunately, those that burn crosses are the same that join forces.

smithsonianmag.com/…/long-painful-history-police-…

law.stackexchange.com/…/public-display-of-swastik…

pbs.org/…/germanys-laws-antisemitic-hate-speech-n…

Valmond , in Elon Musk PAC being investigated by Michigan secretary of state for potential violations

Weird how small his chin is, did he forget to get surgery for that when redoing his jaws?

Atelopus-zeteki , (edited ) in Trump calls union leader who endorsed Kamala Harris ‘a stupid person’
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How weirdly rude. Que malcriado!?!

MataVatnik ,
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*criado

Sorry lol

Atelopus-zeteki ,
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TY!

criticon ,

Malcriado

Atelopus-zeteki ,
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TY! You'd think I couldn't use translation software. I like this phrase as it calls into question 's upbringing, his parents, etc, and yet avoids using profanity.

AbidanYre , in What can a city do when neo-Nazis start marching down its streets?

Jake and Elwood knew how to handle it.

ampersandrew , in New homes are getting smaller. That could be big news for first-time buyers
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For most of recent history, Americans have also wanted bigger homes — but now that’s changing.

For most of recent history, there were no other options. We codified a lot of this into regulations.

tobogganablaze , in Trump says he has 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk 'endorsed me very strongly'

Yeah, but what if there is a shark 10 feet away? What do I do then?

Reality_Suit , in What can a city do when neo-Nazis start marching down its streets?

If you punch a nazi, and you get two friends to punch a nazi and then they get two friends to punch nazis, before you know it, everyone is punching nazis.

CaptainKickass ,

My favorite shampoo commercial, even better

FinishingDutch , in RFK Jr admits to dumping bear carcass in New York's Central Park
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Behind the Bastards just did a four part podcast on him. Let’s just say: this likely wasn’t the weirdest thing that he was involved in that week.

tobogganablaze ,

John Oliver just did a bit about him yesteday on LWT.

Doubleohdonut ,

Holy shit has John Oliver pranked yanks by popularising London Weekend Television? Or am I just the last person to make this connection? 😁

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/3ec30c78-4ebc-4c64-b81b-871ef967cd27.jpeg

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