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TheKarion , in Activists spray red paint over billionaire Walmart heiress's superyacht for a second time

Vandalism should not exist

Pussydogger , in Activists spray red paint over billionaire Walmart heiress's superyacht for a second time

Jealousy becomes vandalism?

I wonder how they feel good themselves if people from Africa came and vandalised their house and say rich people should exist

TheKarion ,

Very good point

return2ozma ,
@return2ozma@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a difference between working class and a billionaire that exploits millions of workers.

Franzia ,

I believe these activists have probably had empathy for the global poor. This walmart bitch creates the global poor.

Pussydogger ,

They are free to give up their “wealthy” Spanish life and go help those “poor” people get rich.

More action less talk.

Franzia ,

The billionaires are literally the reason everyone else is poor. They use that wealth and power to keep wages stagnant and neo-colonialism and neo-slavery churning.

Pussydogger ,

Divide the wealth of the billionaire and the number of poor people and see how much they each get

Franzia ,

It’s how they use their power of capital, not the actual dollar amount. They have the decision making power above all the rest of us. They are deciding to create a deeply unfair and violent world.

zbyte64 ,
@zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What does Africa have to do with this, weren’t the activists from Spain? 🧐

Pussydogger ,

Comparison. These billionaire compare to average Spaniards are filthy rich.

These Spaniards are filthy rich compare the most people in African.

I doubt the action came out of “care”, more out of jealousy.

zbyte64 ,
@zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I doubt the action came out of “care”, more out of jealousy.

So they’re acting like billionaires?

Pussydogger ,

not sure if the billionaire are jealous or not.

The protest going around vandalising property to make their point is definitely an action from jealously.

People have vote with their money to shop at Walmart.

zbyte64 ,
@zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Billionaires don’t get jealous? I guess I meant greed.

Pussydogger ,

Some are, some not. Hard to judge.

Everyone expects others to give what they have away like a river flowing downstream.

zbyte64 , (edited )
@zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Show me a billionaire that isn’t motivated by greed. Seriously, I’ll wait.

But honestly, how is it you can know the motivations of a protestor and most other people but not whether a billionaire is greedy?

Pussydogger ,

Billionaire who don’t want attention are not going to be parading around.

People who want attention does

tinkeringidiot , in Activists spray red paint over billionaire Walmart heiress's superyacht for a second time

More mandatory overtime for her staff. She’ll never know it happened unless one of her social media managers sees it on Twitter and mentions it to her.

Kerred ,

And then they buy more red spray paint on Amazon because Walmart was out .

Side note, didn’t the movie company make bank from people buying those V for Vendetta masks to protest against corporations or something? Vague memory of it

tinkeringidiot ,

Yeah, between Anonymous and Occupy Wall Street those masks were very profitable for the people being protested against.

I’m sure their brief and ultimately pointless unpopularity was well compensated for by those extra revenues.

Mamertine ,

That’s what I don’t get.

The owner of the yacht doesn’t give a shit. It’s beneath them.

Those activists just made a headache for the working class crew who run the yacht.

Good work sticking it to the man’s working class employees! /S

flow_off_a_cliff ,

They got their message on international news, and they did it targeting the super wealthy instead of blocking traffic or otherwise hindering innocent people. Frankly I don’t care if the crew has a ‘headache’ being paid to clean up some biodegradable paint, they’re just being paid for one task instead of another. What actual harm of any kind has this done? The benefit might be small but it’s nonzero unlike what most of us are doing.

BeautifulMind ,
@BeautifulMind@lemmy.world avatar

they did it targeting the super wealthy instead of blocking traffic or otherwise hindering innocent people

Reminds me that the point of protest is to be disruptive. Oh, you’re blocked on your way to do your job? Your job is to do your job, not to fight other workers on behalf of your employer

I don’t get the whole ‘protest should not ever inconvenience anyone, ever’ line of thinking- if I’m travelling for work and I get stuck in traffic behind a protest, I bill my time and that’s how I pass the disruption signal along to where it needs to land

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/50298697-ac1e-4f4d-b272-aaaff1e59fc8.jpeg

the_stormcrow ,

Because targeted vandalism is easier and more satisfying to animalistic urges than the long work of organizing political backing, running for office, enacting societal change

cactus ,

Mate people have been trying all that since the 70s and it didn’t achieve much

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

They’re creating jobs by fucking up the yacht aren’t they?

Or is it only billionaires that “create jobs” when they fuck up the entire world?

halfempty , in Nancy Pelosi: Democrat and ex-Speaker, 83, to seek re-election
@halfempty@kbin.social avatar

I'm a progressive. I usually vote Democrat, because the Republicans are horrible. Pelosi represents everything I despise about the Democratic party establishment: serving the corporate billionaires, and blocking anything that helps working people. Sure there are many Democrats who I support, but Pelosi is NOT one of them!

PrinceHabib72 , in Michigan State suspends coach Mel Tucker after allegations he sexually harassed a rape survivor

That might just be the most expensive wank in recorded history. Man just torpedoed a 95 million dollar contract because he had to get off while on the phone with a prominent sexual assault awareness and prevention advocate.

bobman , in Convicted killer who escaped Pennsylvania prison was spotted overnight and changed his appearance, police say

Woah, I was just reading about this when it was happening.

Forgot what was going on.

BigNote , in Phoenix breaks heat record as city hits 110F for the 54th consecutive day

Nothing to see here folks, just more of the China hoax on climate change.

Believe what I tell you, not what you see.

bobman , in An iPhone belonging to a staffer at a Washington-based civil society organization was hacked remotely with spyware created by Israel’s NSO Group.

I thought iphones werre private.

bobman , in New Mexico officials call for governor’s impeachment after firearms restriction

Rather than addressing crime at its core

You mean the disparity in wealth? Something tells me none of them want to address crime at its core.

BonesOfTheMoon , in Suella Braverman pushes for ban of 'lethal danger' XL Bully dogs

I don’t write off a whole breed, but I will say that my niece got her face seriously ripped up by a pit bull, and I have a friend who raised a pit bull from a puppy, devoted thousands of dollars and professional hours into her training and socialization, and she still bit someone simply for entering her house. I am leery of the breed.

Tavarin ,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

Everyone I know who has been bit by a dog it was either a pitbull, pit mix, or chihuahua. And I’m not exactly worried about the severity of a chihuahua bite.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

I was bitten by an English bull terrier puppy. So now you know someone else.

Tavarin ,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

Bull terrier

You mean the breed that pitbulls were made out of?

Also puppies are a lot less of a worry than grown dogs.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

No English bull terriers are smaller, not the American kind.

Tavarin ,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

Pitbulls were bred from bull terriers to be a bigger version. So it’s not surprising a different breed of terrier is also prone to biting.

Ataraxia ,

Lol sane. No warning. No reason. Actually bit me pretty badly too.

citable6704 ,

I got bit by an English mastiff. That wasn’t a fun experience at 6.

PetDinosaurs ,

There’s a reason to tolerate Chihuahua, cat, or other small animal bites. They cannot kill a child.

Reddit_Is_Trash ,

Pit bulls are great for home defence though

PetDinosaurs ,

So are machine guns and flame throwers and grenades.

That doesn’t mean they’re safe.

Reddit_Is_Trash ,

The less safe the better for home defense. Grenades are destructive to their surroundings, you’d put your home at risk using those.

A pit bull would stop a home invader with minimal damage to its surroundings though. Why would you want your home defence to be safe anyway?

DarthBueller ,

Every pit bull home I’ve ever seen is shredded - I’ve never seen a frag grenade go off in real life, but I imagine the property damage is about the same.

Reddit_Is_Trash ,

Yes, I’ve seen pitbulls tear down drywall and studs, upset the foundation, and shatter every window within a 50ft radius…

DarthBueller ,

Okay, I’ve seen destroyed drywall and damaged studs, but you’re right, no broken foundation or blown out windows from a murder muffin.

bobman ,

To be fair, cat bites can leave you with stitches.

OskarAxolotl ,

Cat bites often become infected when not treated properly. But at least they are basically incapable of killing you immediately or causing lifelong disfigurement.

PetDinosaurs ,

Same thing for paper cuts.

Life is dangerous. No one gets out of it alive.

c0m47053 ,

I was bitten by a golden retriever when I was 12. It looked friendly so I went to pet it, and it sunk a canine into my arm. I was just unlucky (and slightly stupid) though, and it didn’t rip my face off, so I think I did ok overall.

A German shepherd also tried to bite me when passing it on a narrow path, but it just shredded my jacket pocket.

A Yorkshire terrier also had a go at me once, but didn’t make it through denim jeans.

PilferJynx ,

If I were to be attacked by a dog the last one I’d choose is a pitbull or any muscular mastiff. They’re dangerous because they have the highest potential for damage.

Murvel ,

What’s there to be leery about? These dog breeds were bred for one thing and it sure wasn’t to be the perfect family dog.

PutangInaMo ,

Well no, that’s where you’re wrong. Human aggression was a trait that was absolutely bred out of these dogs.

Please go read up on how the American fighting pitbull dog was created, managed, trained, etc. Before throwing out bs online.

Murvel ,

Well I did and it literally states in the first paragraph of the history of Pit Bulls on Wikipedia:

The bull-and-terrier was a breed of dog developed in the United Kingdom in the early 19th century for the blood sports of dog fighting and rat baiting

So I feel, idk, that you got some reading to do…

PutangInaMo ,

Oh how cute, you read a paragraph on Wikipedia…

Murvel ,

Well what fucking sources do you have lmao?

PutangInaMo ,

Well I’ll just start with a top search result when looking for their history…

pitbulls.org/…/brief-history-american-pit-bull-te…

I have owned and read about these dogs for decades, I don’t have nor am I going to go find all of the sources I’ve read over that time. I can tell you that you are incorrect in your assumption about the breed, as are virtually every other person who hates these dogs.

People like you are historically not worth talking to, you will deny any sources or information that I provide because you have already made your mind up about the breed.

I’ll leave you with this: this breed was created by humans, is in a constant state of misery because of humans, and is persecuted by humans because of human behavior.

These dogs are not at fault. But ignorance is rife with folks like yourself. I hope you actually put effort into learning their history but I know you won’t.

Murvel ,

So no sources, nothing, what a pointless discussion.

PutangInaMo ,

I did and then encouraged you to use the same search terms I did to find it. It’s OK though you had no intention of legitimately engaging in this, I know. Later fucko.

Murvel ,

I read your ‘source’, and pitbulls.org is not an unbiased source (wtf how can you think that even). Wikipedia is. Wikipedia supports my claims, end of discussion.

Goddamn you need to go back to school maybe learn about credible source materials.

PutangInaMo ,

Man it wouldn’t matter what I provided, you’re gonna bitch about it anyways. People using “uMmM sOuRcE?!” Online today are just grasping at straws trying to be on the offense desperate to look intelligent.

“My source supported my claims therefore I am right and you are wrong” is such a dipshit move, you’re a bitch dude. Kindly fuck off.

Murvel ,

You really don’t grasp the concept of unbiased sources?

PutangInaMo ,

If you would read what I sent you, you would realize what my point is. It isn’t some hype article about the cutest bestest dog breed that does no harm. It is a truthful background on the breed.

But no, you see the name of the website and cry about how bias it is. You’re a jackass. I’m not responding to you anymore, go live your life.

PetDinosaurs , (edited )

If you will not write off a whole breed of dogs, you have not spent enough time around dogs.

Shepherds do not need to be taught to herd. Retrievers do not need to be taught to retrieve. Pointers do not need to be taught to point. Fighters do not need to be taught to fight.

These are innate behaviors. You can’t stop them.

There’s a reason pit bulls account for such a large fraction a dog related injuries.

And don’t let the pitbull defenders get to you with their “but it’s a mutt” or “they’re such sweet dogs” BS.

Of course they’re going to be nice to their owner. People who train and breed dogs to kill each other for entertainment are going to have no problem immediately bringing the dog that pisses them off out back and shooting them.

PutangInaMo ,

Fighters do not need to be taught to fight.

This is where I recognize that you are making stuff up. You lost me here…

Pipoca ,

Shepherds do not need to be taught to herd. Retrievers do not need to be taught to retrieve.

Shepherds have some herding instinct, but they don’t magically understand herding.

You do, in fact, need to train a herding dog to herd if you want it to be any good at it.

shadshack ,

On the flip side of the argument, I have a pit mix and she’s the sweetest thing in the world. Never has bitten anything other than a toy, and she doesn’t even bark unless she gets the zoomies while playing. She’s been great with my 2 year old nephew, too. Got her from the shelter when she was about a year and a half old. She’s 50% pit, so I feel like if it was genetic she’d be way more aggressive.

Obligatory dog pic:

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/5cc4240f-094a-464f-a7ca-bc0087e23785.webp

bobman ,

Big difference: mix

NostraDavid ,
@NostraDavid@programming.dev avatar

It’ll rip your face off, while looking cute!

PetDinosaurs ,

Yet.

She has not bitten anyone yet. She might never. Or she might suddenly lose it and kill a child. That’s not something that ever happens in breeds like labs.

She’s sweet to you because people who breed and train dogs to kill for entertainment have no trouble killing any dog that pisses them off.

frickineh ,

Uh that absolutely does happen with labs. It can happen with any breed. I’ve volunteered in rescue for years, and when I was working at a shelter, I interacted with hundreds of dogs, and the only time I was ever truly scared was with one particular lab. I don’t hold it against the breed as a whole, because it was his issue, but people need to be aware that any dog can bite and take proper precautions.

DarthBueller ,

The lab should have been put down as well.

frickineh ,

I think he may have been - he didn’t bite me, but when multiple volunteers refused to take him out because his body language read imminent attack, they pulled him for further behavioral evaluation. I don’t know what happened, but he wasn’t cleared in the time I was there. I’m not even sure why he was on the adoption floor to start with.

PetDinosaurs ,

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  • frickineh ,

    That’s a dangerous way to think. There was a story about a golden retriever killing a baby in its carrier a few years back. The family said the dog had always been sweet and friendly, and the infant was too small to have done something like pull a tail or poke an eye.

    I love dogs, I can’t imagine living without at least one and working with others, but way too many people assume that having a “safe” breed means nothing will happen. The vast majority of the time, everything is ok, but every now and then, a friendly dog bites someone in the face.

    stringere ,

    I think you should follow that last sentence with a description of why that matters. I know by inference, but some may miss your point that by “killing any dog that pisses them off” they were selectively breeding for obedience to the alpha to the exclusion of all else. And then maybe extrapolate on how that trait translates into fierce loyalt to one individual which makes everything else a potential target for attack.

    PetDinosaurs ,

    You’re correct. Thanks for the clarification.

    Ataraxia ,

    The amount of lack of self awareness in this post…

    speff ,

    My gun never misfires. Don’t ban guns from kindergartens.

    posted on an article where a kid accidentally gets shot

    seathru ,

    I don’t write off a whole breed,

    I can. They are a non-natural breed created by people for cruel purposes and should be eradicated.

    bobman ,

    Yeah. They were literally bred to be as vicious as possible.

    We can write them off. I don’t blame the dogs, I blame the people who made them this way.

    BonesOfTheMoon ,

    Ok fair enough. I just don’t want to be mean to anyone.

    mob ,

    What’s a natural breed of dogs? And how do you measure intention?

    lightnsfw ,

    I’ve spent a decent amount of time around about a dozen pit bulls and never saw/heard of any issues with any of them. All but 1 were very sweet dogs and even he wasn’t being aggressive beyond making it clear that I was not to enter the property (growling and barking same as many other dogs would do) when we first met. After his owner showed up and we got acquainted with each other he was fine too. On the other hand I’ve been bitten by half the dachshunds I’ve met.

    bufordt ,
    @bufordt@sh.itjust.works avatar

    And my wife’s hairdresser has a vizla that bit her daughter’s face and caused her to get 100+ stitches and she’ll be scarred forever. Dogs can bite without warning regardless of the breed.

    BonesOfTheMoon , in Activists spray red paint over billionaire Walmart heiress's superyacht for a second time

    I love it. God bless us every one.

    TransplantedSconie , in Michigan State suspends coach Mel Tucker after allegations he sexually harassed a rape survivor

    Yeah. He’s gone. Way to fuck up a 95 million dollar contract, Meathead.

    ZeroCool OP ,

    Yep, he was three years into a ten year contract so if he does in fact end up being fired with cause that vast majority of that money disappears. And from the article it sounds like “with cause” is left to the sole judgement of MSU.

    IHaveTwoCows , in Activists spray red paint over billionaire Walmart heiress's superyacht for a second time

    Oh noes

    steebo_jack , in Suella Braverman pushes for ban of 'lethal danger' XL Bully dogs

    I'm just curious, when the UK banned pit bulls, did the government just go around and round up everyone's suddenly illegal dogs and put them all down?

    dan ,

    Some of them, yes. They didn’t go hunting them but any complaints or incidents or they find one when investigating some other crime then you can be sure your pitbull would be taken away and destroyed.

    I don’t think owners got prosecuted or anything as long as the dog was born before the ban, just the dog taken away. Breeders that continued selling them certainly did get prosecuted though.

    asteriskeverything ,

    Wait, like if a neighbor had a problem with you or something they could just report you have a pit bull and the government would then come and take your pet and kill it?!!?

    dan ,

    I mean yeah basically. Same as if you have anything illegal.

    UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN OP ,

    No, not like that. A workmate had a staffy with longer than usual legs. For some reason the neighbours thought it was a pitbull so reported her. Police came, checked the garden was secure, gave some recommendations (like muzzle the animal in public - which she complied with) and left it at that.

    It wasnt illegal to own them, it was illegal to buy them after the cutoff date, or to breed new dogs. The police got new powers but couldnt just take the dog without finding actual problems (to protect dog owners and give some fairness).

    flipthetube , in Burning Man’s Climate Reckoning Has Begun

    ITT: A bunch of grumpy people who base their opinions on media coverage of the event.

    Media reports and reality don’t always align, believe it or not.

    TheOtherThyme ,

    Many people get their news from the media.

    PP_BOY_ ,
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    What exactly are you trying to say? Are you implying that Burning Man is anything but a shitty LARP festival for the upper class to feel like one of the down-to-earth poors for a weekend?

    flipthetube ,

    I am actually, yes.

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