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Tedesche , in Israel's parliament greenlights controversial judicial reform amid raging protests

What a disgrace. Israel’s Left really needs to pull itself together and vote these nutjobs out of power. Hamas and Hezbollah must be ecstatic right now.

lolcatnip ,

The impression I get from news stories about this issue is that the left has been pulling out all the stops and generally doing a great job, but the right just can’t be stopped at this point.

schroedingershat , in Macron on how to stop young rioters: Get mum and dad to restore order

Remember kids! Fascism starts in the home! If we work together and stop empathy early we can keep punishing the poor and disadvantaged!

yip-bonk , in Analysis | Twitter rival Mastodon rife with child-abuse material, study finds
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WaPo’s coverage of the 2016 Presidential race was a master class in journalistic nihilism. Why sure, let’s read their point of view on social media via a study they found that supports it.

generalpotato , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark

I meannnn I don’t “hate” Musk, but boy…. Is he an idiot who deserves all the shit that he gets. My 7yr old is probably smarter than him atm.

md5crypto , in Morgan Stanley Credits ‘Bidenomics’ for Economic Surge

So what is Bidenomics? I guess you could say it’s ‘doing fuck all’ which the free market prefers anyways. Sure better than trying to impose a lot of socialist policies and tax hikes. I fail to see why the left would be pleased with this.

lolcatnip ,

“Socialist”, right.

md5crypto ,

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  • lolcatnip ,

    alphabet-people

    Nice dog whistle you got there.

    md5crypto ,

    I think I made myself quite plain.

    Holyginz ,

    Oh you did for sure. That you have no idea what you are talking about and hate what you don’t understand, which I’m sure is a lot.

    gmtom ,

    Better you people waste your lives being edgy on niche social media platforms to get reactions out of strangers, than actually going out in the real world and making things worse there.

    assassin_aragorn ,

    can you name a single Biden tax hike to date

    The alternative minimum tax for corporations, where the absurdly rich companies have to pay at least 15% or something, even if they claim $0 tax burden?

    zombuey OP ,

    I am curious are you or your parent religious? Did you attend church as a child? This is not a slight or some sort of insult I am simply curious.

    Holyginz ,

    If you were just going to rant about things you don’t understand you would have been better off staying silent and not having people see how little you understand.

    Octagon9561 , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark

    As amusing as it is to see Elon fail, letters like “X” shoud not be trademarkable. Just one indicator that we’re truly reaching capitalist extremism levels of insanity.

    sab ,

    Also, how the hell could Microsoft get a patent for X in 2003 when X has been around since 1984, and is pretty much a direct competitor? This makes no sense at all.

    fiat_lux ,

    The law is a weapon of the rich. You don't have to be right, you just have to be able to afford out-lawyering your competition. Patents are especially revolting.

    sab ,

    Of course, my question was rhetorical. I guess it didn't come out so clearly considering it's also, at least in theory, a damned good question.

    fiat_lux ,

    It was probably clear enough, you just caught me half-asleep and unmedicated. I really dislike patents.

    nefarious ,

    Trademarks can apply to different areas. In this case, Microsoft's trademark is for services related to online chat and gaming, not for something like a window manager.

    https://tsdr.uspto.gov/documentviewer?caseId=sn76041368&docId=ORC20030304054014&linkId=20#docIndex=19&page=1

    sab ,

    Makes sense I guess. Somehow also makes the trademark even more absurd.

    Reminds me a little of Apple v. Apple Records, and how Apple promised never too use their brand to enter into the music industry (like they later did with iTunes anyway).

    FlowVoid , (edited )

    In 1991, Apple Computer made an agreement to pay Apple Records $26 million in exchange for letting Apple Computer use the “Apple” trademark for music. But that was long before iTunes, they wanted the Apple trademark for their computer chimes. Apple Records agreed to let Apple Computer use the Apple trademark for music as long as it did not “package, sell or distribute physical music materials.”

    Much later, iTunes was developed and Apple Records sued Apple Computer. Eventually a judge sided with Apple Computer, pointing out that iTunes did not package, sell or distribute physical music materials. Thus, Apple Records couldn’t get another bite of that Apple…

    ThoughtGoblin ,

    How is Xorg a “direct competitor” to Microsoft? Especially Microsoft’s trademark to X in the gaming market where they own the Xbox and Xorg doesn’t participate at all?

    Trademarks protect consumers by preventing fraud and misleading naming. It makes perfect sense that Microsoft owns X in the given market space due to the enormous prevalence of Xbox. Their first console was literally X-shaped and it would be bad for consumers for anyone to be able to make the “X-station” or “X-cube” or some such.

    sab ,

    One could not imagine Linux without X11 in 2003. And in 2003, the situation between Microsoft and Linux was rather tense.

    That said, I managed to somehow forget about Xbox. I agree it makes sense that Sony couldn't launch an "X console" with a gigantic X on the side.

    So yes, I want thinking it through. I do however think that using this trademark against X.xom would be ill conceived, no matter how much I hate Musk. If they start moving into gaming it might be different though, so fair enough.

    Thanks for making me think it through more! :)

    GustavoM ,
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    “You better not touch the F word! Call of Duty did it first!”

    Welp. I can see it happening.

    quindraco ,

    Trademarks are a government-enforced (i.e. publicly-mandated) monopoly, which is fundamentally antithetical to capitalism.

    Capitalism: “an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.”

    For sure, there are many shades of grey to be had here, and the world has 0 purely capitalist societies (in fact, such a society is inherently impossible). But every time the public controls trade and industry, e.g. when enforcing trademark law, that isn’t capitalism.

    Fibby ,
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    Private property laws are a government-enforced (i.e. publicly-mandated) style of ownership.

    Fure sure, there are many shades of grey to be had here, but Elon Musk owning Twitter is the ultimate form of communism.

    lolcatnip , (edited )

    Trademarks only cover very significant uses. Microsoft can (and apparently did) trademark X in connection to the Xbox, so competitors can’t make a game console called an XStation or PlayStation X, but people not making video game consoles aren’t affected.

    [Edit: Man, Lemmy is weird. I deleted this comment right after posting it because I thought it was redundant. I only undeleted it because I saw it was the top-rated comment in its sub-thread.]

    batmaniam ,

    You can also protect colors. Like there is a defined “target red” and “home depot orange” (probably a twitter blue that I guess will be up for grabs soon). You could use that orange to open, say, a day-care, hair salon, or auto-shop, but not a hardware store. Basically if you can show it would cause consumer confusion you can protect it.

    LegendOfZelda , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark

    I want Musk to lose but I hate the idea of a single letter being copyright.

    Entropywins ,
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    Love your username!!!

    nefarious ,

    Copyright and trademarks are different things. In this case it looks like it applies mainly to the Xbox "X" logo like is seen on this (hilarious) page of the filing and is only for things related to messaging and gaming, so it's not as broad as it sounds. Based on a cursory look at Google results from before July 1st, I can't find any examples of Microsoft actually suing anyone for using the letter X, either.

    Pandantic ,
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    This is my first thought. How does a company own a single letter? Why is this allowed?

    Mynameisnotdoug ,

    What do you think is a reasonable cutoff for a trademark?

    5 letters? 3? 2?

    Pandantic ,
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    A full word that you made up.

    Boinketh ,

    Abstractly, whatever isn’t generic enough that multiple companies could want the name. For example, you shouldn’t be able to name an online chatroom company something like “Chat” and expect to have the trademark enforced.

    Idk how to make it more concrete.

    rtxn ,

    Trademark, not copyright. It means that you can’t make something and call it “X” if there’s any chance that your “X” and their “X” might get mixed up. Google ran into this same problem when they created “Alphabet” - it was already a trademark of some German car manufacturer (probably Audi or BMW), but the court ruled that “Alphabet the car company” and “Alphabet the online services company” are far enough apart that the average user probably won’t confuse one for the other (although the Dove soap and Dove chocolate makes me doubt it). Twitter and Microsoft both offer online services. It might be enough of an overlap to constitute a trademark violation.

    TheBat ,
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    Oh damn, is that why chocolates have been tasting so weird lately? Ig I’ve been eating soap!

    LEDZeppelin , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark

    🤣

    I’m just here for his ass getting handed to him

    FediFuckerFantastico ,

    Hard to tell if he’s winning or losing. If he’s being incentivized to destroy the integrity of a mainstream information-sharing platform, he’s done well. If he in any way wanted to run the company, he’s done laughably bad. I guess time will tell

    18_24_61_b_17_17_4 ,
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    I’ve always been kind of tin-foil-hatty about that. Like there’s no way he can actually fucking suck this much at this, right? It really seems like somebody paid him to take down a major information sharing platform that helps to further protests and other organized dissent.

    twisted28 ,

    We may see other major online social platforms collapse for no discernible reason…

    chameleon , in Analysis | Twitter rival Mastodon rife with child-abuse material, study finds
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    The report hints at it but doesn't really say it out loud: get rid of one particular server and there goes 99% of it, along with 90% or so of the overall Japanese userbase (as they were the first big Japanese instance and had a mostly-trusted locally relevant company behind it). But nearly every non-Japanese-orientated instance already either fully defederated from it or has something to strip media content from it. It's essentially its own thing not really related to Mastodon aside from the software in use.

    unwinagainstable , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark

    Yeah definitely don’t need to check that out beforehand

    TubeTalkerX , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark

    What about the Malcolm X Estate, do they have a say in this?

    BD1sHappyFeet , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark

    Why does his face remind me of the Phantom of the Opera? Maybe there will be an unfortunate chandelier falling incident.

    Rhaedas ,
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    One of the best damn openings ever.

    fearout , in Elon May Have a Huge Issue Because Microsoft Owns the “X” Trademark
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    I’m glad we’re currently on a good news streak. Those climate change articles were weighing on me.

    darkstar ,

    Agreed lol

    sentient_loom , in Aussie Bus Driver Fed Up with 'Misbehavior' Dumps 18 Kids on Side of the Road
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    Wrong but relatable.

    doppelgangmember , in Aussie Bus Driver Fed Up with 'Misbehavior' Dumps 18 Kids on Side of the Road

    Good on them.

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