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30mag , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

Nearly 16 million people aged 65 and older in the US lived solo in 2022, three times as many who lived alone in that age group in the 1960s.

How much of that is attributable to an increase in the number of people over the age of 65?

AThing4String ,

This is honestly a good question - I’d be more interested to see it as a percentage of their age group than a count.

girlfreddy ,
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@AThing4String @30mag

In the Census link in the article it is represented as a percentage.

AThing4String ,

Huh, I didn’t see the 65+ compared past-present as a percentage there though

demonquark , in Texas Judge Says Doctors Can Use ‘Good Faith Judgment’ in Providing Abortions

It’s a classic “rules for thee, but not for me” law. Good Faith judgment means the rich an powerful get access to while the poor and minorities do not.

Neuron , in Jan. 6 Prosecutors Ask for Protective Order, Citing Threatening Trump Post

Just to be clear, it’s not like a protective order for their person (though Jack Smith and others already have to travel with large security details because of the stochastic terrorism of Trump and most other Republicans), but a protective order of the evidence in the case given through discovery. So before the trial the prosecution has to show the defense all the evidence it has, which is called discovery. The prosecutors here are concerned that Trump is going to leak that info in some way, like witnesses lists, so that his supporters can harass and intimidate witnesses on his behalf. Or maybe even bribe them or something. What the prosecution is seeking is a protective order to prevent trump from releasing publicly any evidence that they obtain through discovery. Normally there wouldn’t be anything preventing a defendent from releasing that info, though most sane people wouldn’t generally want their incriminating evidence released publicly. If the order is granted and Trump violates it, he could theoretically be held in contempt and go to prison where he no longer can violate the order.

keeb420 ,

if only there was some facility where he could be housed and monitored to make sure that doesnt happen before trial. oh well. i guess well just have to let him intimidate witnesses and potential jurors.

FunderPants ,

Silly goose, those kinds of places are just for people with scary skin tones.

elbarto777 ,

Pale white and hairless tops?

girlfreddy ,
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@elbarto777 @FunderPants

More of a orange-hued face with a bad combover on top of a bloated, pasty white blob.

Hazdaz , in Feds alert judge to Trump’s ‘If you go after me, I’m coming after you!’ post

How about we stop acting like this is a goddamn game and take this seriously?

Throw him in jail until the trial starts.

mojofrododojo ,

The day he sees the inside of prison is the day I begin to re-evaluate my belief, or lack thereof, in a higher power.

Come on Anu/Vishnu/Zeus/Jesus/Utu/Osiris/Joe Pesci, make me a believer. Please.

milkjug ,

How dare you leave out our lord and savior, gaben?

mojofrododojo ,

valid point, especially considering the large amount of free shit I’ve gotten from his beardedness, in direct opposition to the zilch I’ve gotten to the other deities mentioned.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Destroy atheism, throw him in jail.

Might be a good slogan for Christianity. Haha.

You know this whole bullshit has just reenforced my atheism. There really is no one out there protecting us. If we don’t do the right thing we have to live with that.

traveler01 ,

What a wonderful country the US is. Throws people to jail because they smoked a plant while this clown and even SBF (the scammer from FTX), roam free waiting for being judged.

whataboutshutup , in Feds alert judge to Trump’s ‘If you go after me, I’m coming after you!’ post

Trump wrote in all caps Friday afternoon

What a dumbass. Can’t really read his tweets without hearing him losing it or having a stroke.

on Truth Social, which is run by a media company he co-owns.

Does it still work? What a surprise. Unpleasant one.

squaresinger ,

I wouldn’t mind him having a stroke.

jetsetdorito ,

Not like they have to do much, it’s just mastodon with federation turned off

TheWoozy ,

Truth Social uses Mastodon code, so it does work.

pelicans_plight , (edited ) in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

Well old age is a bitch, I’ve seen this scenario happen twice in my life, so I’m guessing this situation may happen a lot… but who knows. Anyway I had a friend… well not really a friend anymore, but he was a cheater, he was ugly as fuck, but this motherfucker (term used completely correctly) tried to sleep with every woman he could, including everyones girlfriends, the shocking part is that it worked, that ugly piece of shit sleep with more women then anyone I’ve ever known. Our friendship ended when one day we were just chillin smoking a joint and he casually says to me, you know what my fantasy is??? aaaah… sure, tell me, one day I hope to get aids so I can give to all the woman I sleep with… … … aahhhh… shit… I don’t think I’m friends with you anymore. But to get back to the topic, later in life he went after his best friends girlfriend, she was vary naive and trusting, and he got her, they got married, started a successful business together, had kids, he became loyal, he really loved her. One day decades into his fantasy he had an emergency, he had to go to the hospital, they ran every test they could think of to find the cause, some of the causes could be from STDs, and it was. When the wife found out it was over, fantasy now turned nightmare. He deserved what he got, but I’ll always be sad when I think of all that time that cheating narcissistic piece of shit took away from her.

Sorry if this is slightly off topic, but this reminded me of her and what she went through.

girlfreddy ,
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@pelicans_plight @MicroWave

Sounds like my dad. 5 wives, and never had sex with the last one cause he was too scared to tell her he had herpes and Hep C that he gave to wife 4 ... all cause he couldn't keep it in his pants.

Llamabrodog , in Child from Honduras is one of two people dead on or near Texas’ anti-migrant border buoys

For a state that believes in good Christian values they sure suck at being Christian…

deweydecibel , (edited ) in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

Every single time the word Boomer is in the title, people rush to comments to make these insults.

The article isn’t describing a necessarily bad thing. It’s just noting a trend.

There are many reasons behind this shift in our society, including the economic gains women made when they entered the workforce and changing attitudes toward marriage.

Like…this article has absolutely nothing to do with boomers getting their comeuppance. It’s just about a shift in societal behavior. People are getting divorced later in life because it’s more acceptable to do so now and women can support themselves better on their own than when these people got married.

missveeronica ,

The circlejerk of Lemmy is real. It’s the same thing that was so visible on Reddit and the irony is that everyone on Lemmy, even the ones participating in the circlejerk are patting these on the back on how better they are than reddit.

kobra ,

Humans doing shitty groupthink things with other humans? I for one am shocked.

MagicShel ,

I spent like an hour typing out a counterpoint to “SFH bad. Cars bad. Owning things bad.” Then I just deleted it. Nothing good could possibly come from it. It doesn’t give anyone anything to think about, it just labels me a bad guy. Fuck it. Their opinion doesn’t hurt me - it’ll take decades if not longer to make a shift like that. I don’t care where y’all live after I die. So silence it is.

VediusPollio ,
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It’s exhausting, and far worse than Reddit.

SeedyOne ,

This is just what the Internet has become, it’s not the specific protocol or hosted site. Years of people crying over how “reddit” behaves as an entity are already starting to complain here but they need to step back and realize it’s the nature of the beast.

Acknowledge, adapt and move on.

riskable ,
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I agree, fellow lemming! Let us follow this path together in solidarity.

demvoter ,
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Well, the subheadline did say this “raising big questions about the country’s future” which is just bullshit.

AThing4String ,

To be fair, Baby Boomers are actually statistically the reason divorce rates are so high, and also why they’ve been going down recently.

Not trying to be insulting, just wanting to speak about the statistics I’ve read, so I’ll try to use the full generation title to distinguish.

Speaking about the generation as a general group, Baby Boomers had many marriages and many divorces per capita. Your stereotypical “on my fifth wife” dudes were Baby Boomers and were a disproportionate percentage of marriages that ended in divorce - basically “Divorce Georg”.

From a statistics perspective, a large part of the reason divorce rates are going down these days are because as people get older, they tend to settle down and have less energy for those kind of antics basically, and the rate of Baby Boomers marriages and divorces was slowing down in response - with other generations being pretty much stable.

So on that level I’m not particularly surprised that those attitudes towards divorce are still affecting them in old age. It does pose interesting questions for our elder care infrastructure (or lack thereof) though.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

This reminded me.

As a kid, I was so used to meeting adults who were on their 2nd or 3rd marriage. It felt super common.

But now im hitting 40 and only a small fraction of my friends are divorced.

SheeEttin ,

Fewer people getting married. A lot of my friends are long-term common-law partners, but never do the actual marriage.

Kelsenellenelvial ,

Maybe it’s just the people I know personally, but it seems like very few have gone through multiple marriages. Most seem to just skip the formal marriage thing the second time around, even if those relationships last much longer than the ones that lead to divorce.

Drinvictus , in Texas Judge Says Doctors Can Use ‘Good Faith Judgment’ in Providing Abortions

I’m finishing my residency training soon and even though I am not an ob provider I would never ever work in Texas, Florida or anywhere that has laws against routine medical practices

jayrhacker ,
@jayrhacker@kbin.social avatar

Seriously, it's a shame there isn't a large powerful association of medical professionals that could push back against government interference in medical care

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a shame that association isn’t doing everything it can to get universal healthcare too.

CrypticFawn , in Feds alert judge to Trump’s ‘If you go after me, I’m coming after you!’ post
@CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Trump is incapable of not saying or doing stupid shit.

ChrisLicht ,

Feral genius presents as saying stupid shit.

The guy is a monster but somehow slips the snare over and over again.

I would love to lose the bet, but my money is on time, nullification, or pardon ensuring that he isn’t particularly inconvenienced by the four indictments.

scorpious , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

Living longer (and in better shape) means choosing quality of life over tradition and expectations of others.

FinallyDebunked , (edited )
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No one in their right mind would pick loneliness over relationships

dragonflyteaparty ,

Not everyone living alone is lonely or not in a relationship. My grandmother-in-law lives alone and had a male “friend” who she was very close with. Living alone didn’t make her lonely. She was just very Catholic and only got married once.

FinallyDebunked ,
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LOL what? She probably just wants some dick on the side while keeping up appearances as a good little Catholic housewife.

boogetyboo ,
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You ok, mate?

captainlezbian ,

Yeah you’re absolutely right. So consider how bad those relationships must be

rynzcycle , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

I always knew my father was an asshole to my mom. Nothing abusive, just an insensitive typical boomer man. But it wasn't until years after they divorced, in their late 50s, that I saw him change for the better, and realized her far more passive aggressive attacks towards him.

They made each other miserable, and while I don't think either of them is really happy still, they are definitely better off than before.

TheWoozy ,

“Typical boomer man”? That’s a pretty broad statement.

Metaright , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’
@Metaright@kbin.social avatar

Heyck says she got divorced in her 50s after her son turned 18.

“It was really more of a working relationship than a full marriage,” she says, and Heyck was emotionally ready to be on her own.

But the financial transition, she says, wasn’t easy. For years, she struggled to make ends meet, living with roommates and couch-surfing as she waited for a spot to open in income-adjusted senior housing.

“I was an artist. I lived on the edge financially. I didn’t have a 401(k) … I always thought that I would be married. That was the big surprise,” she says.

How was it a "big surprise" when it's implied that she wanted the divorce to happen? You have an unstable job, divorce your spouse, and then go all surprised Pikachu when it occurs to you that your finances are unstable?

average650 ,
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There are a lot of divorced people who like it play the victim when it was painfully obvious what they were giving up to everyone but them. Divorce is horrible.

There are of course many who have escaped abused through divorce, so I don’t want to act like they are all the same, but man can people be selfish.

AwkwardPenguin , in Jan. 6 Prosecutors Ask for Protective Order, Citing Threatening Trump Post

Paywall bot please?

takeda ,
billwashere ,

Upvote this and not mine. Not sure what happened but the link got buried in formatting somehow so I just stripped it away. takeda should get credit for providing the actual link to non-paywalled content.

Sharpiemarker ,

Thank you for reminding me about archive.is!

Sharpiemarker ,

“12ft.io is disabled for this site”

billwashere ,
kittenbridgeasteroid , in More Baby Boomers are living alone. One reason why: ‘gray divorce’

It’s not surprising. I mean, there’s a reason jokes about hating your spouse are called boomer jokes.

TheWoozy ,

Those jokes predate boomers by at least 2 generations. In fact, they became much less acceptable to boomers. Their trend is continuing.

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